b******k
发帖数: 2321 | 1 hoho, can give you a crazy example:
David Schneider, this guy got offers from Duke/Dartmouth in 1997, but de
cided to become a Whitehead fellow for 4 years.
You may say Whtehead fellow is not a conventional postdoc but it is not
faculty anyway |
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u*****g
发帖数: 1632 | 2 name, # of Postdocs, location, salary, strenth
1 Trudeau Institute, Saranac Lake, NY 20 $36,000–$43,000 Health
2 Samuel Roberts Noble Foundation, Ardmore, OK 63 $41,200–$61,800 ,
retirement
3 Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research,
Cambridge, MA 138 $48,658–$51,764 , retirement
4 Novartis Institutes for Biomedical Research,
Cambridge, MA 42 starts at $55,000 , retirement
5 Genentech, South San Francisco, CA 125 $51,000–$54,000 , Health
6 Rocky Mountain Laboratory, NIH, Hamilton, |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 3 看起来不需要faculty职位 只要有independence就成(research, lab space,etc) 感觉
上基本就是模仿whitehead/ucsf fellow那种位置的 不过非要留校才行这个很诡异
怎么 |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 4 看看我列的pub list。
另外，排名当然有局限性 但是光凭感性认识显然也是不行的。比如说吧 同样是新机构
你觉得janelia farm潜力比nibs大得多得多 敢问依据是什么呢？我倒是觉得janelia除
了aim定的非常ambitious以外 具体运行有很多不靠谱的地方 gery rubin的个人偏好 和
hughes里做neuroscience的人的偏好 也未必永远都是正确的。至于他们能不能做的好
至少目前我看不出来 我相信你也看不出来:) 那么到底你是根据什么判断janelia的潜力
和nibs的潜力呢？
还有，nibs是国家给钱的 janelia是hughes给钱的 whitehead是私人基金会给钱的 每年
每5年 都是要拿出具体的东西告诉金主 我们有存在的必要 我们做的不错 blabla 这个
不是说我积累30年搞几个惊天动地的发现 或者给科学家发个调查问卷问问这个机构的名
声如何就行的。。我只能说 数量评价和历史性评价都是重要的 你强调后者当然没错 可
前者也不是那么可有可无的
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b******d
发帖数: 149 | 5
其是
对而
I think that 非学术因素的干扰 in China is very much much worse.
Here are a few disadvantages for NIBS in China:
1) Quality peers outside NIBS are much much worse in China, this also
reflects on seminar qualities, conference and meetings.
2) Collaborations between NIBS scientists (PIs/postdoc/students) and
other international scientists are not as easy as PIs overseas. This is
true for reagent purchases and requests too.
3) I would handicap the political environment in China against NIBS as
well,... 阅读全帖 |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 6 how about whitehead, how about salk, how about stowers? 这些研究所都这样啊
又不是Nibs独创 |
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C******r
发帖数: 790 | 7 pubmed可以搜到NS上天文地理的文章，应该是整个杂志的都被包括了
其实只是想质疑这个，尤其想质疑MIT那129篇应该包括其他学科，不然怎么比
whitehead多那么多，不过还是找个更容易探清深浅的，就选了清华。看来自从清华有
了施一公及其弟子，北大没法跟清华比生物方面的CNS了，呵呵。
LZ做调研的精神很赞，其实我很爱看这种言之有物的东西，只是对其数据准确性有所质
疑而已，不要太敏感。 |
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g****1
发帖数: 261 | 8
This program is very similar to the Fellow program by a few elite
schools. The difference is that NIH provides money vs. school itself.
The money is essentially same as an R01. It's not as much as you think
when you support 1 graduate student and couple of postdocs as well as
some parts of own salary.
Regarding to "给的deadline太近压根没打算留出让大家自由申请的时间", this is
not
for the everyday graduate students. It's really for those elite
graduate students who have published 2 or 3 first author CNS papers an... 阅读全帖 |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 9 帮朋友打听打听 大侠们提供点学术评价和八卦？谢拉 |
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a***e
发帖数: 1010 | 10 many years ago, I interviewed with Hazel Sivel. Every one in her lab
suggested me not to go there. |
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 12 Terry Orr-Weaver is very nice, but not very active recently. |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 15 谢谢你啊 经常提供我建设性意见 呵呵 我那朋友还真在考虑Lodish 看起来是个不错的
选择阿 他还在考虑sabatini，这人你了解么？不过具体他是不是google/excellent 这
个我就不清楚了。。那些有名的大老们Weinberg/Page/Jaenisch/Young之类的 怎么感
觉名声都一般？呵呵
good
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 16 PS 纳看来你是不推荐Orr-Weaver或者Sive咯？hoho 我去和他说声。。 |
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a***e
发帖数: 1010 | 17 当年没去 lodish 实验室是这辈子几个最大的失策之一。 |
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 18 I have mixed feeling about Sabatini. If there is no geographical restriction
, I would prefer Guan KL, who is doing very similar research. If your friend
is interested in other signaling pathways on metabolism, I would recommend
Blenis or Yaffe, who are also in the Boston area. |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 19 能说说为啥mixed么 hoho 反正这一块我也不太懂。。让他参考好了
restriction
friend
recommend |
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 20 He was sharp, aggressive and a very skilled dodger when questioned by others
. But this was before he got established.
In term of metabolism study, Spiegelman is the god father in Boston.
Hotamisligil also started a good training record. Their research styles are
quite different from the biochemists in my previous posts. But, I think none
of them are supportive as Lodish. |
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h********n
发帖数: 4079 | 21 John Blenis is a good guy. |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 23 Waiiiiiit. I am from Massachusetts. We are No. 1--to a certain extent.
I know little about UK or Oxford University. But we in Massachusetts are
proud of the achievements of our state.
(1) First I question veracity of data for Baylor College of Medicine (BCM).
I have rarely heard of it, and have no idea whether it is good or bad. But
the author of the original posting never cites the source of his data--and I
think he is off mark.
Biomedical funding in US can come from National Institute of Healt... 阅读全帖 |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 24 Waiiiiiit. I am from Massachusetts. We are No. 1--to a certain extent.
I know little about UK or Oxford University. But we in Massachusetts are
proud of the achievements of our state.
(1) First I question veracity of data for Baylor College of Medicine (BCM).
I have rarely heard of it, and have no idea whether it is good or bad. But
the author of the original posting never cites the source of his data--and I
think he is off mark.
Biomedical funding in US can come from National Institute of Healt... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****l
发帖数: 9499 | 25 那啥，超一流的牛老板和牛机构不在此列，譬如 whitehead |
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f****y
发帖数: 104 | 26 可以考虑申请superpostdoc, 如whitehead fellow之类啊 |
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w*********w
发帖数: 306 | 27 JUNIOR FACULTY AND superpost doc是类似的program， 只是不同地方学校称呼不同。
都是有独立实验室和funding，比如whitehead princeton都有类似的program |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 28 这个提法恐怕很早就有了把 我好像没读phd之前就听人说过。像whitehead fellow和
carnegie staff associate都是几十年的历史 只不过开始的时候没人管他们叫
superpostdoc而已 |
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O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 29 这些fellows没有时间限制的么？我看到其中一个whitehead fellow从２００４年就
开始了－－这也太久了吧？ |
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O******e
发帖数: 4845 | 30 好像他们很缺人的样子，到处email招博后的广告。
有了解的人给说说，他们的实力到底如何？好像跟Whitehead还有一腿，但肯定水平
还是差一大截？ |
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t*d
发帖数: 1290 | 32 Whitehead 没钱了，所有很多 pi 转到 broad 去了。
Broad 主要做各种组学，高通量的东西，而且是什么新做什么，所以烧钱快。招几个
postdoc 花不了他们几个钱。
借地方问一下谁了解 Todd Golub 实验室？想了解一下他们实验室有多少人？实验室气氛如何（比如大家干得开心吗）？这个 Broad 的大牛牛居然没有一个lab website。或则整个 Broad 就算是他的 lab？ |
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w*e
发帖数: 740 | 33 whitehead 没钱了？
消息准不？怎么和我打听的不一致？
气氛如何（比如大家干得开心吗）？这个 Broad 的大牛牛居然没有一个lab website。
或则整个 Broad 就算是他的 lab？ |
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 34 Most univeristies and medical schools have indirect cost rate as 30-67%.Only
a small portion of pure research institutes like Whitehead or Salk have >90
% rates.
NIH's intramural research was good in 60s and 70s. I think NIH just need to
adopt some mechanism to remove those lousy PIs.
worry
grans |
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s**u
发帖数: 9035 | 35 发信人: bibicat (bibicat), 信区: Returnee
标 题: 又有一个ap全职海归了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jan 29 23:53:08 2011, 美东)
钟涛（Tao Zhong）博士、教授
1987年本科毕业于上海医科大学药物化学专业，获学士学位；1995年获美国纽约州立大
学石溪分校和美国冷泉港研究所联合遗传学博士学位；1996-2001年，在美国麻省理工
学院Whitehead研究所和哈佛医学院心血管研究中心任博士后研究员；2002-2010，任美
国Vanderbilt大学医学院医学系，药理系和细胞发育生物系助理教授 (tenure-track),
兼任复旦大学特聘讲座教授。2011- 现在, 任复旦大学生命科学学院教授。在Cell,
Nature, Science, Nature Genetics, Nature Biotechnology, PNAS and
Developmental Biology 等发表学术论文。
http://life.fudan.edu.cn/s/84/t/296/4a/7b/info19067.ht... 阅读全帖 |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 36 我不是做植物的 不过你说的很明显呀 呵呵 做植物的大牛又在研究所（而不是大学里）
的本来也不多 呵呵。这种8g挺好啊 又不是什么负面新闻 呵呵
是有这个问题，其实我觉得方向杂问题不大（话说方向杂 还有杂的过whitehead的？）
，方向太集中会是个问题。其实janelia就有这个问题。。 |
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p****u
发帖数: 239 | 37 Shinya Yamanaka
The J. David Gladstone Institutes - USA
and
Kyoto University - Japan
Rudolf Jaenisch
M.I.T.
and
Whitehead Institute
U.S.A.
For the generation of induced pluripotent stem cells (iPS cells) from skin
cells (SY) and demonstration that iPS cells can be used to cure genetic
disease in a mammal, thus establishing their therapeutic potential (RJ). |
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w***m
发帖数: 10498 | 38 Speaking mesenchymal stem cell only, this is a very interesting area. I
remember Bob Weinberg (whitehead) had a nice review or research article
published in Nature few years ago that has something to do with Bone marrow
derived MSCs.
Talking about your career, it's totally different issue. If you want to
build your career on something big, you should pick something hard to start.
However, sounds to me that you haven't done to much reading yet. If you
want to build your career in a good way, you ... 阅读全帖 |
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w***m
发帖数: 10498 | 39 Speaking mesenchymal stem cell only, this is a very interesting area. I
remember Bob Weinberg (whitehead) had a nice review or research article
published in Nature few years ago that has something to do with Bone marrow
derived MSCs.
Talking about your career, it's totally different issue. If you want to
build your career on something big, you should pick something hard to start.
However, sounds to me that you haven't done to much reading yet. If you
want to build your career in a good way, you ... 阅读全帖 |
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D*a
发帖数: 6830 | 40 http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110427/full/472391a.html?utm_so
Peer review of scientific papers in top journals is bogged down by
unnecessary demands for extra lab work, argues Hidde Ploegh.
Hidde Ploegh
Submit a biomedical-research paper to Nature or other high- profile journals
, and a common recommendation often comes back from referees: perform
additional experiments. Although such extra work can provide important
support for the results being presented, all too frequently it represents
ins... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****l
发帖数: 9499 | 41 靠，这是一堆牛人不鸟 whitehead 了分裂出来建的。
另，不太喜欢 Broad Ins. 的运作模式。比如说他们打算把 R 给搞死。 |
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c********r
发帖数: 1125 | 42 生物里面我知道的，肯定很不全面。。。
YU JUNYING上海状元，HMS正教授，工作是老板诺奖的重要部分。未来进NAS很有可能。
WANG JING 海南状元，UCSD 教授，老板也是诺奖，工作也很出色。
GE HUI 北京状元 MIT 的WHITEHEAD FELLOW。。现在我不知道在哪里了
考虑到读生物的未必占状元的大多数（90年代才开始火的专业，原来大多是数学物理什
么的）。。也不算很差了把？
反过来说，考试分数高和科研能力本来就是两码事。诺家得主里面几个SAT满分的？几
个GRE满分的？
美国每年那么多SAT,GRE满分最后还不是去了当医生和律师得多。。是不是也对社会没
有大贡献了？？
当然过分强调状元是蛮变态的，中国有这种ROLE MODEL文化的偏执。。今年不是挺好？
有几个省份已经不公布状元了？ |
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c********r
发帖数: 1125 | 43
我觉得你说的有点片面，至少我这边的情况不是这样。
瑞士这边很多老板是在美国正经博后3－5年以上的。大部分phd是本国或者欧洲大陆毕
业的，但是美国毕业的phd也有。
你说的可能是德国或者其他国家一些竞争力不强的地方。你看看马普生物比较强的所，
大部分新pi都是美国牛实验室博后出来的，而且一般都有牛文章。当然近亲繁殖的不是
没有，可是越来越少了，尤其在高水平的研究所。
瑞士可能本来就太小吧，连近亲都不太可能产生，只能出国做博后。
我这个研究所老板的博后lab／时间：
colorado／4年 ，embl/5年， mit-whitehead/5年 ，mdc（berlin)／5年 ， cancer
uk(london)/5年＋ ，mit/4年，embl/5年， harvard/5年， ucsf／5年，genetech／5年
所以我觉得你说得情况不具备普遍性，大部分现在欧洲一流研究所的老板大多是北美顶
尖实验室出来的博后，最少都在3－4年以上。绝对不是只在美国混个资历玩玩的。
你看embo young investigater award的得奖人，基本算欧洲生物的杰青吧，绝大多数
都是北美博后... 阅读全帖 |
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z*******o
发帖数: 1794 | 44 膜拜fred的牛人，不知道whitehead和fred哪个牛些。 |
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c****l
发帖数: 1086 | 45 Vamsi Mootha has very intereting background.
Dr. Mootha received his B.S. (with honors, with distinction) in Mathematical
and Computational Science at Stanford University. He then received his M.D.
(cum laude) from the Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences and Technology
, where his thesis research focused on mitochondrial energetics. Following
an internship and residency in Internal Medicine at Brigham and Women’s
Hospital, he pursued postdoctoral training in Eric Lander’s laboratory at
the W... 阅读全帖 |
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c****l
发帖数: 1086 | 46 Vamsi Mootha has very intereting background.
Dr. Mootha received his B.S. (with honors, with distinction) in Mathematical
and Computational Science at Stanford University. He then received his M.D.
(cum laude) from the Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences and Technology
, where his thesis research focused on mitochondrial energetics. Following
an internship and residency in Internal Medicine at Brigham and Women’s
Hospital, he pursued postdoctoral training in Eric Lander’s laboratory at
the W... 阅读全帖 |
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h*****t
发帖数: 103 | 47 据说进whitehead一般要求有CNS paper。
不过曾见过没有类似paper的人进去，一年不到就发两篇好文章的。
可以试试哦，而且EMT现在正热。 |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 48 呵呵 别的我也不想评论 既然你说到broad,那你知道whitehead多少经费是来自
endowment么。。。
另外我不知道你这个所谓绝对的自由从何说起，NIBS有理事会 有学术委员会，北大清
华也有各自的学院学术委员会 校学术委员会。从招聘到晋升都是要有程序要走，由委
员会批准才行的。当然你可以说作为头头他们几个招人的权利比较大，然而美国学校系
主任在招聘过程中的分量就不大么？而且这个权力说到头 无非是系里自主掌握的钱怎
么分配给新PI的权力而已，只不过美国这个钱八成是overhead或者endowment来的，国
内可能就是各种各样的经费分配方式来的，你这个“自由度和...随行全世界找不到其
他”是从何说起？难道美国一个院系想招人，还得去问问NIH/NSF批准不批准这个研究
方向？lol |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 49 这个比较不公平啊 你应该问 一个地方涨工资前后postdoc的个人感受和生活质量的变
化。比如说，whitehead postdoc现在是不是比之前感觉开心 工作质量生活质量提高。
光比不同地方的工资是有bias的，就算是real world job,选择的人也不是只看工资不
是？
some
dominant |
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 50 你这个类比的问题已经有人说过了 我就不说了。。简单点说，有光明前途之前不得不
受苦，和受苦就是routine，这个完全不是一回事。你的解决方法是梦想未来某一天bio
phd也不受苦，也有大把钞票大量工作。我的解决办法是希望近期某一天bio postdoc
的苦可以稍微少一点。相比来说你的方案可能更虚无缥缈一些。。
至于钱哪里来，whitehead恰好是个例子，他家postdoc现在有5万左右的工资，比HMS高
相当多了，难道nih对它们网开一面多发了些funding?可见你说的如果没有nihd支持涨
工资不靠普也是不对的。。 |
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