l******o
发帖数: 2649 | 1 http://www.macworld.com/article/154980/2010/10/jobs_transcript.html
我们不在乎份额，我们只是要做最好
7寸不好，我们不做。
而且其它厂家难以和我们的ipad定价竞争。我们的处理器，外壳，电池化学等等都是我
们自己的技术，我们这么多年来也学会了如何高效的制造电子产品。
RIM完蛋了。
Android可能会有很多用户，但是这些手机没我们的好，市场份额再高我们不在乎，我
们只关心最到最好。市场很大，不只一家公司可以成功，我们将长期与其竞争。 |
w******s
发帖数: 16209 | 2 hehe 这个是最近最有趣的一个业报问答了。其它的都相比起来太枯燥了
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.macworld.com/article/154980/2010/10/jobs_transcript.html
: 我们不在乎份额，我们只是要做最好
: 7寸不好，我们不做。
: 而且其它厂家难以和我们的ipad定价竞争。我们的处理器，外壳，电池化学等等都是我
: 们自己的技术，我们这么多年来也学会了如何高效的制造电子产品。
: RIM完蛋了。
: Android可能会有很多用户，但是这些手机没我们的好，市场份额再高我们不在乎，我
: 们只关心最到最好。市场很大，不只一家公司可以成功，我们将长期与其竞争。
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w*********y
发帖数: 251 | 3 哈哈。 不管是饭还是黑，不得不承认no jobs, no fun. 看他上窜下跳非好好玩。 |
f****l
发帖数: 5514 | 4 我觉得说得还算满真诚的亚.
&好多期待着7寸ipad的人要失望了~~~
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.macworld.com/article/154980/2010/10/jobs_transcript.html
: 我们不在乎份额，我们只是要做最好
: 7寸不好，我们不做。
: 而且其它厂家难以和我们的ipad定价竞争。我们的处理器，外壳，电池化学等等都是我
: 们自己的技术，我们这么多年来也学会了如何高效的制造电子产品。
: RIM完蛋了。
: Android可能会有很多用户，但是这些手机没我们的好，市场份额再高我们不在乎，我
: 们只关心最到最好。市场很大，不只一家公司可以成功，我们将长期与其竞争。
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l******a
发帖数: 10467 | 5 等到年底没有小一号的ipad出来我就买个blackberry或者三星吧， 方正主要是看八卦
， 灌水， 看看email, 欧iphone上按了一堆东西， 用的就那么几个
【在 f****l 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得说得还算满真诚的亚.
: &好多期待着7寸ipad的人要失望了~~~
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f****l
发帖数: 5514 | 6 RIM的那个估计还早着呢, 年底肯定没有希望.
我对三星的产品一向没啥好感...
【在 l******a 的大作中提到】
: 等到年底没有小一号的ipad出来我就买个blackberry或者三星吧， 方正主要是看八卦
: ， 灌水， 看看email, 欧iphone上按了一堆东西， 用的就那么几个
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j******u
发帖数: 29 | 7 lol I love Steve.
[Q: Any updates on your stance on Flash?]
Flash memory? We love flash memory.
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.macworld.com/article/154980/2010/10/jobs_transcript.html
: 我们不在乎份额，我们只是要做最好
: 7寸不好，我们不做。
: 而且其它厂家难以和我们的ipad定价竞争。我们的处理器，外壳，电池化学等等都是我
: 们自己的技术，我们这么多年来也学会了如何高效的制造电子产品。
: RIM完蛋了。
: Android可能会有很多用户，但是这些手机没我们的好，市场份额再高我们不在乎，我
: 们只关心最到最好。市场很大，不只一家公司可以成功，我们将长期与其竞争。
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r******n
发帖数: 4522 | 8 关于7寸他说得没错，800X600的分辨率看个网页得不停地滚，累死人。别说800X600了
，1024X600的netbook我都总觉得屏幕像被踩扁一样很难受。1024X768就是极限，7寸上
面弄个1024X768戴老花眼睛的话也能看，但点link恐怕就不准，还是得先放大了才行。
国内那么多山寨800X600或1024X600都是在dump当初一窝蜂做netbook进的液晶幕，不用
也废掉，不如扔掉键盘换个壳子卖。教主弄了个9寸多的前所未有的尺寸还有有道理的
，就是兼顾了显示跟输入后的最小尺寸。
便携设备屏幕是个大难题，没有突破性的技术，譬如低耗电高清晰的投影，或者软性卷
轴屏幕的话，ipad这个就差不多到头了，二代最多也就是10-11寸加到1280X800. |
l******o
发帖数: 2649 | 9 觉得上10-11寸基本不可能吧
太大了也难以操控。
屏幕分辨率不会是1280x800
最多1536x1152，因为两倍不太可能，不知道1.5倍定制屏幕是否可能
【在 r******n 的大作中提到】
: 关于7寸他说得没错，800X600的分辨率看个网页得不停地滚，累死人。别说800X600了
: ，1024X600的netbook我都总觉得屏幕像被踩扁一样很难受。1024X768就是极限，7寸上
: 面弄个1024X768戴老花眼睛的话也能看，但点link恐怕就不准，还是得先放大了才行。
: 国内那么多山寨800X600或1024X600都是在dump当初一窝蜂做netbook进的液晶幕，不用
: 也废掉，不如扔掉键盘换个壳子卖。教主弄了个9寸多的前所未有的尺寸还有有道理的
: ，就是兼顾了显示跟输入后的最小尺寸。
: 便携设备屏幕是个大难题，没有突破性的技术，譬如低耗电高清晰的投影，或者软性卷
: 轴屏幕的话，ipad这个就差不多到头了，二代最多也就是10-11寸加到1280X800.
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l******a
发帖数: 10467 | 10 难道你从来不看新闻？
【在 r******n 的大作中提到】
: 关于7寸他说得没错，800X600的分辨率看个网页得不停地滚，累死人。别说800X600了
: ，1024X600的netbook我都总觉得屏幕像被踩扁一样很难受。1024X768就是极限，7寸上
: 面弄个1024X768戴老花眼睛的话也能看，但点link恐怕就不准，还是得先放大了才行。
: 国内那么多山寨800X600或1024X600都是在dump当初一窝蜂做netbook进的液晶幕，不用
: 也废掉，不如扔掉键盘换个壳子卖。教主弄了个9寸多的前所未有的尺寸还有有道理的
: ，就是兼顾了显示跟输入后的最小尺寸。
: 便携设备屏幕是个大难题，没有突破性的技术，譬如低耗电高清晰的投影，或者软性卷
: 轴屏幕的话，ipad这个就差不多到头了，二代最多也就是10-11寸加到1280X800.
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l******a
发帖数: 3339 | 11 where the f**k is the white iphone 4???
【在 l******o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.macworld.com/article/154980/2010/10/jobs_transcript.html
: 我们不在乎份额，我们只是要做最好
: 7寸不好，我们不做。
: 而且其它厂家难以和我们的ipad定价竞争。我们的处理器，外壳，电池化学等等都是我
: 们自己的技术，我们这么多年来也学会了如何高效的制造电子产品。
: RIM完蛋了。
: Android可能会有很多用户，但是这些手机没我们的好，市场份额再高我们不在乎，我
: 们只关心最到最好。市场很大，不只一家公司可以成功，我们将长期与其竞争。
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a*****y
发帖数: 277 | |
b*****t
发帖数: 9671 | |
m*****e
发帖数: 4193 | 14 Jobs is right: 7-inch tablets are going to be a complete failure.
However, if he were so confident, why tip off the competitors? Why not keep
silence and sit back and watch them fail in smile? |
J********a
发帖数: 5208 | 15 7 inch is good for portable dvd player anyway, but rather rather limited
keep
【在 m*****e 的大作中提到】
: Jobs is right: 7-inch tablets are going to be a complete failure.
: However, if he were so confident, why tip off the competitors? Why not keep
: silence and sit back and watch them fail in smile?
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 16 he needs to assure investors why he doesn't do things.
It is not uncommon for competitors NOT to listen to what Jobs says why Apple
is sucessful.
keep
【在 m*****e 的大作中提到】
: Jobs is right: 7-inch tablets are going to be a complete failure.
: However, if he were so confident, why tip off the competitors? Why not keep
: silence and sit back and watch them fail in smile?
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w******s
发帖数: 16209 | 17 yeah, that is what I thought about as well.
I think he tried to "scare off" the market..
and try to slow down customer buying the 7"
keep
【在 m*****e 的大作中提到】
: Jobs is right: 7-inch tablets are going to be a complete failure.
: However, if he were so confident, why tip off the competitors? Why not keep
: silence and sit back and watch them fail in smile?
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J********a
发帖数: 5208 | 18 it won't work
small companies are not competing with Apple on the general market, as long
as there are small niche share they will go for it.
selling ten thousand sets is pretty enough for them
【在 w******s 的大作中提到】
: yeah, that is what I thought about as well.
: I think he tried to "scare off" the market..
: and try to slow down customer buying the 7"
:
: keep
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j**h
发帖数: 173 | 19 Seven-inch screens are about half size of the ten-inch ones. Probably that
makes optimal UI designs closer to
a phone instead of a tablet. I think 7-inch does have portability advantage
in that it is lighter and may fit
large pocket or regular purse. But that's probably not the primary
motivation of the coming army of 7-inch
androids - I think the primary reason is cost and availability of 10-inch
IPS screens. Apple priced iPad very
aggressively as they publicly stated, therefore competitors couldn't match
iPad in terms of price if they go with
10-inch. Additionally 10-inch screens require bulkier battery. Without an
integrative approach from silicon to
the OS, they may have a hard time to match the weight of an iPad when
targeting similar battery life. All
considered, 7-inch looks like a compromise rooted in incompetence rather
than superb design. And that is
not a recipe for success. (Carrier subsides may change the dynamic, but it's
unclear if this is a valid business
model for tablets.)
【在 J********a 的大作中提到】
: 7 inch is good for portable dvd player anyway, but rather rather limited
:
: keep
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C********n
发帖数: 6682 | 20 那是因为他怕股票投资者太蠢看不到前景啊
keep
【在 m*****e 的大作中提到】
: Jobs is right: 7-inch tablets are going to be a complete failure.
: However, if he were so confident, why tip off the competitors? Why not keep
: silence and sit back and watch them fail in smile?
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F**p
发帖数: 1046 | 21 ipad卖的好，他当然不愿意再出一个7寸的。
我就觉得现在的ipad太大，出一个5-7寸的，我就考虑。 |
d****p
发帖数: 685 | 22 Makes sense.
Apple seems to price aggressively when it is the first mover in certain
market (iPad and iPhone are not pricey, compared with other Apple products
like Mac).
Apple's supply chain management department push suppliers very hard to make
pricing room.
advantage
【在 j**h 的大作中提到】
: Seven-inch screens are about half size of the ten-inch ones. Probably that
: makes optimal UI designs closer to
: a phone instead of a tablet. I think 7-inch does have portability advantage
: in that it is lighter and may fit
: large pocket or regular purse. But that's probably not the primary
: motivation of the coming army of 7-inch
: androids - I think the primary reason is cost and availability of 10-inch
: IPS screens. Apple priced iPad very
: aggressively as they publicly stated, therefore competitors couldn't match
: iPad in terms of price if they go with
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j**h
发帖数: 173 | 23 Supply chain is absolutely important, which explains Tim Cook's prominence
in the company. The other
important factor is distribution channels. If subside model works well for
tablets, the market will be similar to
smartphones where carriers play a huge role - Android's success is mostly
attributed to Verizon and the nature
of cell phone contrasts. But I highly doubt that would be the case.
Attacking all important niches/segments is also important. Apple does make
different kinds of iPods and Macs.
I believe Apple will make a smaller iPad just for people who prefer light
weight. When Jobs says something
"dead on arrival", "blows", what he really means is like this:
"this thing is interesting. but the existing products on the market suck.
yet we haven't figured out how to
improve it, or we have figured out but not ready to show it".
make
【在 d****p 的大作中提到】
: Makes sense.
: Apple seems to price aggressively when it is the first mover in certain
: market (iPad and iPhone are not pricey, compared with other Apple products
: like Mac).
: Apple's supply chain management department push suppliers very hard to make
: pricing room.
:
: advantage
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