b***6
发帖数: 6011 | 1 普锐斯
volt
特色啦
都是后轮鼓鼓的
没有发动机，电池放哪里不行？！非要放在那个地方么？ 一点不协调 |
h******k
发帖数: 15372 | |
F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 3
what exactly does that mean?
【在 b***6 的大作中提到】
: 普锐斯
: volt
: 特色啦
: 都是后轮鼓鼓的
: 没有发动机，电池放哪里不行？！非要放在那个地方么？ 一点不协调
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b*******l
发帖数: 1095 | 4 电池要放在相对安全的地方, 因为电池变形会起火. |
F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 5 not obvious to me
the tires in most EVs stay flush with the body, due to aerodynamic reasons. |
b***6
发帖数: 6011 | 6 你从侧面看车 车身那条线在后轮的地方不协调
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
: not obvious to me
: the tires in most EVs stay flush with the body, due to aerodynamic reasons.
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u****q
发帖数: 24345 | 7 看起来还是丰田看得远看得准，搞hybrid。
油价这么便宜，纯电根本玩不转。 |
F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 8
no, Toyota's vision is fool cell. PiP is just another low-volume compliance
car, like RAV4 EV, to allow it to sell more gas cars in the CARB states.
Toyo has been left far behind in the EV game.
http://reneweconomy.com.au/2015/toyota-vs-tesla-can-hydrogen-fu
【在 u****q 的大作中提到】
: 看起来还是丰田看得远看得准，搞hybrid。
: 油价这么便宜，纯电根本玩不转。
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u****q
发帖数: 24345 | 9 丰田有意这样做的好不好。
“We don’t see any battery technology that would allow us to… give
customers a comparable driving experience at a reasonable price,” Scott
said. “We don’t see anything for the next ten years because if there was
something in the laboratory today it would probably take seven to ten years
to get into a production vehicle.”
“With batteries there is a fundamental science problem that we don’t know
how to solve,” he continued. “It’s going to require a new material that
doesn’t yet exist.”
https://transportevolved.com/2015/07/22/toyota-claims-its-negat
to-battery-electric-cars-is-due-to-experience/
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So why isn't Toyota plowing all its resources into electric cars? Tabuchi
says:
Batteries aren't ready.
Toyota doesn't want to churn out some crap electric that tarnishes the brand.
Electric cars are going to be expensive, with low margins.
Have you noticed the $4.4 billion loss from last year? Maybe not the best
time to burn a billion dollars on an electric project.
Is the mass market ready for an electric car? Probably not.
Hydrogen! Toyota is developing a better alternative car technology.
http://www.businessinsider.com/toyota-bets-against-the-electric
氢气车完全是50年以后才会实现的moonshot，丰田只是玩玩而已。
compliance
【在 F***Q 的大作中提到】
:
: no, Toyota's vision is fool cell. PiP is just another low-volume compliance
: car, like RAV4 EV, to allow it to sell more gas cars in the CARB states.
: Toyo has been left far behind in the EV game.
: http://reneweconomy.com.au/2015/toyota-vs-tesla-can-hydrogen-fu
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F***Q
发帖数: 6599 | 10
years
know
attitude-
http://gas2.org/2015/07/22/is-toyota-prius-why-toyota-anti-ev/
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/05/12/lexus-apologizes-for-anti-ev
【在 u****q 的大作中提到】
: 丰田有意这样做的好不好。
: “We don’t see any battery technology that would allow us to… give
: customers a comparable driving experience at a reasonable price,” Scott
: said. “We don’t see anything for the next ten years because if there was
: something in the laboratory today it would probably take seven to ten years
: to get into a production vehicle.”
: “With batteries there is a fundamental science problem that we don’t know
: how to solve,” he continued. “It’s going to require a new material that
: doesn’t yet exist.”
: https://transportevolved.com/2015/07/22/toyota-claims-its-negat
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 11 lol，你知道得太多了。
years
know
attitude-
【在 u****q 的大作中提到】
: 丰田有意这样做的好不好。
: “We don’t see any battery technology that would allow us to… give
: customers a comparable driving experience at a reasonable price,” Scott
: said. “We don’t see anything for the next ten years because if there was
: something in the laboratory today it would probably take seven to ten years
: to get into a production vehicle.”
: “With batteries there is a fundamental science problem that we don’t know
: how to solve,” he continued. “It’s going to require a new material that
: doesn’t yet exist.”
: https://transportevolved.com/2015/07/22/toyota-claims-its-negat
|
g*q
发帖数: 26623 | 12 Prius prime的设计指标在当前的油价下是非常合理的。电车最大的优势就是短途不用
热车。开长途prius/cmax之类的发动机不比电厂效率低多少，再考虑到冬天暖气，还有
充电损耗，就比电车效率高多了。
反正需要暖气的天，我的Cmax开长途前是不充电的。
years
know
attitude-
【在 u****q 的大作中提到】
: 丰田有意这样做的好不好。
: “We don’t see any battery technology that would allow us to… give
: customers a comparable driving experience at a reasonable price,” Scott
: said. “We don’t see anything for the next ten years because if there was
: something in the laboratory today it would probably take seven to ten years
: to get into a production vehicle.”
: “With batteries there is a fundamental science problem that we don’t know
: how to solve,” he continued. “It’s going to require a new material that
: doesn’t yet exist.”
: https://transportevolved.com/2015/07/22/toyota-claims-its-negat
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g*q
发帖数: 26623 | 13 丰田搞氢能是很NC
实际上现在锂电车性能上也基本上就这样了。能改进的就是价格和充电网络。如果能稍
微将就一点，油象中国这样多收点税，普及没问题。
years
know
attitude-
【在 u****q 的大作中提到】
: 丰田有意这样做的好不好。
: “We don’t see any battery technology that would allow us to… give
: customers a comparable driving experience at a reasonable price,” Scott
: said. “We don’t see anything for the next ten years because if there was
: something in the laboratory today it would probably take seven to ten years
: to get into a production vehicle.”
: “With batteries there is a fundamental science problem that we don’t know
: how to solve,” he continued. “It’s going to require a new material that
: doesn’t yet exist.”
: https://transportevolved.com/2015/07/22/toyota-claims-its-negat
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