i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 1 木耳接了个好摊子。加上木耳的防守调教， 尼克越打越好阿。 |
A****a
发帖数: 2497 | 2 DA进攻体系就是shit
现在尼克斯打的进攻明显和DA体系不是一回事 |
d*w
发帖数: 546 | 3 lol
nobody called it a 好摊子 when dantoni resigned from knicks
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: 木耳接了个好摊子。加上木耳的防守调教， 尼克越打越好阿。
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 4 尼玛，看球了吗？肥二顿今天打得不就是屁肯肉和spread and read offense吗。 丫本
来就是打这个的行家，在DA手下的半个赛季他就是全明星的表现。今天丫能这么打很大
一原因是melo不在场，所以全是屁肯肉。
木耳接管后多了一些melo的iso play, 但从来就没完全抛弃小胡子演练的套路。小林在
的时候他也有为小林设计的套路，只不过比小胡子在的时候少多了，但绝对比在火箭为
林设计的套路多。
【在 A****a 的大作中提到】
: DA进攻体系就是shit
: 现在尼克斯打的进攻明显和DA体系不是一回事
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T***c
发帖数: 17256 | |
i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 6 灭了linsanity，当然要骂他。
【在 T***c 的大作中提到】
: 当时可以对黑木耳骂声一片地说
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A****a
发帖数: 2497 | 7 得了吧P&R 就是DA体系？ 控卫持球多就是DA 体系？
7秒进攻呢？高攻防转换呢？高位挡拆呢？内线中投呢？
现在woodson 打的就是前几年老鹰的打法: inside-out低攻防转换,慢节奏的偏
向于传统的篮球。和DA 高攻防转换快节奏根本就是两个相反概念。
再说今天纽约的进攻很简单就是传切，和单挡突破分球，要不就是挡拆错位单打。和DA
那种打发完全没联系.
既然你说原来的纽约那差别更大了，那时候纽约锋线囤了威尔逊钱德勒，加里纳利，都
是运
动力很强的球员，大量跑位拉出空当来打的。现在纽约的机会基本是吸引包夹以后传球
得到的。你要说这些都是一个体系那整个NBA的进攻就没区别了。
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: 尼玛，看球了吗？肥二顿今天打得不就是屁肯肉和spread and read offense吗。 丫本
: 来就是打这个的行家，在DA手下的半个赛季他就是全明星的表现。今天丫能这么打很大
: 一原因是melo不在场，所以全是屁肯肉。
: 木耳接管后多了一些melo的iso play, 但从来就没完全抛弃小胡子演练的套路。小林在
: 的时候他也有为小林设计的套路，只不过比小胡子在的时候少多了，但绝对比在火箭为
: 林设计的套路多。
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m****t
发帖数: 1072 | 8 木头儿比德安东尼要强。单从带领纽约的战绩上就可以看出来，包括去年同一批人马。
木头儿在小鸡时，小鸡每年都有进步，进季后赛到二轮。
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: 木耳接了个好摊子。加上木耳的防守调教， 尼克越打越好阿。
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a******s
发帖数: 4052 | 9 适合丹东尼打法的那拨儿人被球队拿去换甜瓜了，所以小胡子和瓜互相看不顺眼。木头
森这个回归传统的打法还是挺适合现在的，球员配备合理，化学也挺好。
现在小胡子在湖人也不会很得意，很犟的一个人。
【在 m****t 的大作中提到】
: 木头儿比德安东尼要强。单从带领纽约的战绩上就可以看出来，包括去年同一批人马。
: 木头儿在小鸡时，小鸡每年都有进步，进季后赛到二轮。
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 10 当然每个教练都会用屁肯肉。但是da system 的精髓在于spacing, spread， 和屁股解
读然后attack对方的defense。什么7秒进攻之类的是在suns搞的跑轰。你啥时候看到da
在小林打pg时干那一套了。小林是要push tempo, 但从来没打象在太阳的那一套。
木耳在老鹰的时候干得最多的是周强盛的iso, 还有很多post plays，那象昨天打的这
种以pg为主的spread and read offense... 你是瞪眼说瞎话。我懒得跟你多解释，给
你转篇文章看看吧。
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/07/schmeelk-the-man-behind-
Schmeelk: The Man Behind Knicks’ Huge Win? Mike D’Antoni
By John Schmeelk
» More Columns
You would be hard-pressed to find a more unlikely win.
The Knicks were without Carmelo Anthony in Miami on Thursday night. They
were playing the second half of a road back-to-back, after the first game
required extreme effort from New York in the fourth quarter. Raymond Felton
had a bad left hand. Jason Kidd is just coming back from a back injury. By
the way, there’s still no Iman Shumpert or Amar’e Stoudemire.
The Heat had a day off on Wednesday and were coming off a brutal loss to the
Wizards. They swore up and down they would be ready to take out all their
anger on the Knicks. They also remembered the first whooping New York put on
them back in October.
Yet the Knicks still won.
They took the game by 20 points, and in the fourth quarter it never closer
than ten. This was domination. Obviously, credit the players for their hot
shooting and moving the basketball. Also credit Mike Woodson for coming up
with a plan that this group could execute, putting them in a position to
succeed with top gun Carmelo Anthony on the bench.
Know who else deserves credit? Mike D’Antoni.
Watching the Knicks on Thursday night was akin to watching them at any time
during the past three seasons: run the high screen-and-roll, spread the
floor and find the open man.
Felton took Jeremy Lin’s spot in his own little version of Linsanity. When
the Heat went under the pick-and-roll, there was an open jumper. When they
trapped, the Knicks were one pass away from an open three or Tyson Chandler
at the rim. When they switched, it became a mismatch for the Knicks guards,
who took it to the hoop.
It was unstoppable. It was Mike D’Antoni’s system at its best. It was the
only way the Knicks could have won last night without Carmelo Anthony.
We’ve seen Woodson employ that offense for stretches this season, but never
for nearly an entire game like against Miami. After he got the job,
Woodson said he would be foolish not to continue to utilize some of Mike D’
Antoni’s system in his offense. There were many skeptics, mostly because of
the Knicks’ plodding and ball-stopping ways late last year. Now, it’s
pretty obvious that was due to a complete lack of competent point guard play
after Jeremy Lin got hurt.
Woodson deserves a ton of credit for not being stubborn and adjusting his
style to make the team better. Many coaches have their way and stick with it
no matter what, but he did what was best for the players and the team.
The Knicks have officially come full circle. They now have the best of both
worlds. For all the Knicks fans that couldn’t stand D’Antoni, they now
have his offensive system and the players to run it at their disposal when
needed. The Knicks lead the NBA in three-pointers — both attempted and made
. Last night they shot a ridiculous 44 and made 18. They have a stable of
point guards to get those open shots that D’Antoni would sell his soul for.
They also have the defensive intensity and accountability that comes with
Woodson. It’s a combination the league is having a hard time dealing with,
and I don’t think that’s going to change any time soon.
D’Antoni may not have won a title here with the Knicks. He couldn’t even
win a playoff game. But he helped lay the foundation that will help the
Knicks contend for a championship this year.
For that, at least, we can remember him fondly.
DA
【在 A****a 的大作中提到】
: 得了吧P&R 就是DA体系？ 控卫持球多就是DA 体系？
: 7秒进攻呢？高攻防转换呢？高位挡拆呢？内线中投呢？
: 现在woodson 打的就是前几年老鹰的打法: inside-out低攻防转换,慢节奏的偏
: 向于传统的篮球。和DA 高攻防转换快节奏根本就是两个相反概念。
: 再说今天纽约的进攻很简单就是传切，和单挡突破分球，要不就是挡拆错位单打。和DA
: 那种打发完全没联系.
: 既然你说原来的纽约那差别更大了，那时候纽约锋线囤了威尔逊钱德勒，加里纳利，都
: 是运
: 动力很强的球员，大量跑位拉出空当来打的。现在纽约的机会基本是吸引包夹以后传球
: 得到的。你要说这些都是一个体系那整个NBA的进攻就没区别了。
|
A****a
发帖数: 2497 | 11 一DA扇在那乱讲有什么credit。
要数据没数据，要视频没视频，连在commets支持他这种说法的都没有。
你也得努力提高业务水平，拿出点实在点的论据再来说论。
看篇小报记者写的东西就是董秋迪了？还spacing spread。 你就和我说明白了，哪个
教练不讲究spacing，spread，不然不要把这种 butter&bread 的东西搬出来了当某某
教练特色。
da
【在 i*********r 的大作中提到】
: 当然每个教练都会用屁肯肉。但是da system 的精髓在于spacing, spread， 和屁股解
: 读然后attack对方的defense。什么7秒进攻之类的是在suns搞的跑轰。你啥时候看到da
: 在小林打pg时干那一套了。小林是要push tempo, 但从来没打象在太阳的那一套。
: 木耳在老鹰的时候干得最多的是周强盛的iso, 还有很多post plays，那象昨天打的这
: 种以pg为主的spread and read offense... 你是瞪眼说瞎话。我懒得跟你多解释，给
: 你转篇文章看看吧。
: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/07/schmeelk-the-man-behind-
: Schmeelk: The Man Behind Knicks’ Huge Win? Mike D’Antoni
: By John Schmeelk
: » More Columns
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 12 跟你论点啥呢？你看看你自己写的哪一点靠谱。还inside out? knicks 除了melo,有谁
可以post up自己的match up。你看捞钱的进球哪个是他在蓝下单干，或吸引防守然后
kick out? 尼玛low tempo能搞到120 分？
不管是小报还是大报，只要人写得在理，就是好的分析。你不会认为cbs在媒体界是
nobody 吧？要是你真那么认为的话，那就更证明了你的无知。
DA被人成为 offense genius 不是没原因的。人自己当年是打pg出身的，是kobe少年时
的偶像。还DA的东西是垃圾？你有点儿太大言不惭了吧。
【在 A****a 的大作中提到】
: 一DA扇在那乱讲有什么credit。
: 要数据没数据，要视频没视频，连在commets支持他这种说法的都没有。
: 你也得努力提高业务水平，拿出点实在点的论据再来说论。
: 看篇小报记者写的东西就是董秋迪了？还spacing spread。 你就和我说明白了，哪个
: 教练不讲究spacing，spread，不然不要把这种 butter&bread 的东西搬出来了当某某
: 教练特色。
:
: da
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