R*****o 发帖数: 14902 | 1 这个生物学上的重大贡献,hypothesis在其中起的作用有多少? |
a*****x 发帖数: 901 | 2 It was found that bacteria don't grow around the mold. The hypothesis was
then proposed that certain substances in the mold suppress bacteria growth
【在 R*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个生物学上的重大贡献,hypothesis在其中起的作用有多少?
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R*****o 发帖数: 14902 | 3 agree with you that the purification of penicillin was based on that
hypothesis, whichi is not a very strong hypothesis often prefered by NIH.
not to mention that the initial discovery of the mold killing effect was a
serendipity.
【在 a*****x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It was found that bacteria don't grow around the mold. The hypothesis was : then proposed that certain substances in the mold suppress bacteria growth
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p*****m 发帖数: 7030 | 4 如果NIH按照看见真菌周围不长细菌这种观察为标准来fund research,不用半年他就破
产了
【在 R*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : agree with you that the purification of penicillin was based on that : hypothesis, whichi is not a very strong hypothesis often prefered by NIH. : not to mention that the initial discovery of the mold killing effect was a : serendipity.
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w***a 发帖数: 4361 | 5 没关系嘛,钱就是那么多。proposal太多了就搞lottery好了,
也不见得就比现在这种拼谁是大牛或者谁更会吹牛的标准来的差。
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果NIH按照看见真菌周围不长细菌这种观察为标准来fund research,不用半年他就破 : 产了
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p*****m 发帖数: 7030 | 6 那等于是说随机分钱也比现在的制度好 这个我深表怀疑
【在 w***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没关系嘛,钱就是那么多。proposal太多了就搞lottery好了, : 也不见得就比现在这种拼谁是大牛或者谁更会吹牛的标准来的差。
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s******y 发帖数: 28562 | 7 时代不同了,对preliminary data 的分量要求也不同了。
比方说你翻翻四十年前的 Nature, Science, 好多生物学的文章都很简单。
【在 R*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : agree with you that the purification of penicillin was based on that : hypothesis, whichi is not a very strong hypothesis often prefered by NIH. : not to mention that the initial discovery of the mold killing effect was a : serendipity.
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o*******n 发帖数: 161 | 8 那时还是什么年代?
【在 R*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : agree with you that the purification of penicillin was based on that : hypothesis, whichi is not a very strong hypothesis often prefered by NIH. : not to mention that the initial discovery of the mold killing effect was a : serendipity.
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y****y 发帖数: 123 | 9 还不如说种痘呢
现在从马路随便拉一个来打针血清再感染下HIV试试看吧 |
y****y 发帖数: 123 | 10 对不起我错了种痘这个算hypothesis...orz |
h********n 发帖数: 4079 | 11 hypothesis不存在strong or not. 在验证hypothesis过程中做的发现, 可能比这个
hypothesis是否成立还重要, 但做这个发现的过程还是hypothesis driven的.
比如你拿一个化合物去看看对细胞生长的影响, 这么简单的一个想法, 就有假设在里面
, 可能你没有意识到.
所以hypothesis driven基本上是所有科学的underline的方法, 要注意做实验的目的是
test, 而不是prove or fit the hypothesis. 上次那个帖子说到hypothesis driven
的问题, 其实是很多人不去test.
【在 R*****o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : agree with you that the purification of penicillin was based on that : hypothesis, whichi is not a very strong hypothesis often prefered by NIH. : not to mention that the initial discovery of the mold killing effect was a : serendipity.
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