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Biology版 - You guys over-reacted to Callaway's allegation
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相关话题的讨论汇总
话题: callaway话题: guys话题: allegation话题: ye
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I*****y
发帖数: 6402
1
First of all, most, if not all, of you guys don't know for sure whether Ye
Shiwen took any drugs for boosting performance. I do not see a big point for
attacking Callaway for his stupid allegation.
If Ye Shiwen indeed took drugs, you guys are just embarrassing yourselves;
if she is innocent of any drugs, great, you guys gave Callaway a big slap in
his face. However, before you know any fact, why not stay calm and have
some civilized discussion about Callaway and other people's suspicion. It is
pointless and wrong to use allegation to attack allegation; at best, you
guys are showing valor as a consolidated Chinese group or you guys are
showing foolhardy stupidity, just as Callaway did in his self-embarrassment
article on nature.
w***a
发帖数: 4361
2
你这种屁话这几天说了N遍了,毫无新意,根本不值得一驳。

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in
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embarrassment

【在 I*****y 的大作中提到】
: First of all, most, if not all, of you guys don't know for sure whether Ye
: Shiwen took any drugs for boosting performance. I do not see a big point for
: attacking Callaway for his stupid allegation.
: If Ye Shiwen indeed took drugs, you guys are just embarrassing yourselves;
: if she is innocent of any drugs, great, you guys gave Callaway a big slap in
: his face. However, before you know any fact, why not stay calm and have
: some civilized discussion about Callaway and other people's suspicion. It is
: pointless and wrong to use allegation to attack allegation; at best, you
: guys are showing valor as a consolidated Chinese group or you guys are
: showing foolhardy stupidity, just as Callaway did in his self-embarrassment

T**********r
发帖数: 287
3
How much do you know about politics? Does he have any direct evidence for
that argument? If not, he deserves it.
I am fed up with some so called calm guys.

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【在 I*****y 的大作中提到】
: First of all, most, if not all, of you guys don't know for sure whether Ye
: Shiwen took any drugs for boosting performance. I do not see a big point for
: attacking Callaway for his stupid allegation.
: If Ye Shiwen indeed took drugs, you guys are just embarrassing yourselves;
: if she is innocent of any drugs, great, you guys gave Callaway a big slap in
: his face. However, before you know any fact, why not stay calm and have
: some civilized discussion about Callaway and other people's suspicion. It is
: pointless and wrong to use allegation to attack allegation; at best, you
: guys are showing valor as a consolidated Chinese group or you guys are
: showing foolhardy stupidity, just as Callaway did in his self-embarrassment

O******e
发帖数: 4845
4
你根本就没明白为什么那么多人反对那篇Nature脑残文。现在所有检测都说她没有
用药,那她就是清白的,那帮子老外单把她列出来怀疑就是心怀不轨。即便以后
她被检查出来用药,那跟我们现在的辩护也毫无关系,而且我们也不用感到任何
耻辱甚至尴尬。

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in
is
embarrassment

【在 I*****y 的大作中提到】
: First of all, most, if not all, of you guys don't know for sure whether Ye
: Shiwen took any drugs for boosting performance. I do not see a big point for
: attacking Callaway for his stupid allegation.
: If Ye Shiwen indeed took drugs, you guys are just embarrassing yourselves;
: if she is innocent of any drugs, great, you guys gave Callaway a big slap in
: his face. However, before you know any fact, why not stay calm and have
: some civilized discussion about Callaway and other people's suspicion. It is
: pointless and wrong to use allegation to attack allegation; at best, you
: guys are showing valor as a consolidated Chinese group or you guys are
: showing foolhardy stupidity, just as Callaway did in his self-embarrassment

O***n
发帖数: 13127
5
hey, test result was out.
by the way, nature often retracts papers

for
in
is
embarrassment

【在 I*****y 的大作中提到】
: First of all, most, if not all, of you guys don't know for sure whether Ye
: Shiwen took any drugs for boosting performance. I do not see a big point for
: attacking Callaway for his stupid allegation.
: If Ye Shiwen indeed took drugs, you guys are just embarrassing yourselves;
: if she is innocent of any drugs, great, you guys gave Callaway a big slap in
: his face. However, before you know any fact, why not stay calm and have
: some civilized discussion about Callaway and other people's suspicion. It is
: pointless and wrong to use allegation to attack allegation; at best, you
: guys are showing valor as a consolidated Chinese group or you guys are
: showing foolhardy stupidity, just as Callaway did in his self-embarrassment

d***8
发帖数: 2039
6
你说话像弯弯。

for
in
is
embarrassment

【在 I*****y 的大作中提到】
: First of all, most, if not all, of you guys don't know for sure whether Ye
: Shiwen took any drugs for boosting performance. I do not see a big point for
: attacking Callaway for his stupid allegation.
: If Ye Shiwen indeed took drugs, you guys are just embarrassing yourselves;
: if she is innocent of any drugs, great, you guys gave Callaway a big slap in
: his face. However, before you know any fact, why not stay calm and have
: some civilized discussion about Callaway and other people's suspicion. It is
: pointless and wrong to use allegation to attack allegation; at best, you
: guys are showing valor as a consolidated Chinese group or you guys are
: showing foolhardy stupidity, just as Callaway did in his self-embarrassment

p****n
发帖数: 9263
7
恭喜,您通过了公知资格厕试

for
in
is
embarrassment

【在 I*****y 的大作中提到】
: First of all, most, if not all, of you guys don't know for sure whether Ye
: Shiwen took any drugs for boosting performance. I do not see a big point for
: attacking Callaway for his stupid allegation.
: If Ye Shiwen indeed took drugs, you guys are just embarrassing yourselves;
: if she is innocent of any drugs, great, you guys gave Callaway a big slap in
: his face. However, before you know any fact, why not stay calm and have
: some civilized discussion about Callaway and other people's suspicion. It is
: pointless and wrong to use allegation to attack allegation; at best, you
: guys are showing valor as a consolidated Chinese group or you guys are
: showing foolhardy stupidity, just as Callaway did in his self-embarrassment

F*Q
发帖数: 3259
8
说得对!那篇文章的问题不在于他对叶诗文的质疑是否有道理,而在于他心怀叵测的误
导国际舆论并抹黑中国运动员。他如果要客观地就事论事,也需要把所有在较短时间内
有那种突出进步的运动员都列出来。单单把叶诗文列出来就明显暴露了他的种族倾向性。

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 你根本就没明白为什么那么多人反对那篇Nature脑残文。现在所有检测都说她没有
: 用药,那她就是清白的,那帮子老外单把她列出来怀疑就是心怀不轨。即便以后
: 她被检查出来用药,那跟我们现在的辩护也毫无关系,而且我们也不用感到任何
: 耻辱甚至尴尬。
:
: for
: in
: is
: embarrassment

I*****y
发帖数: 6402
9
as a senior scientist, you know it better than I do that a negative test
result just means it did not detect the drug or the test did not work
properly. I am not taking either side, so hold your fire off of me.

【在 O***n 的大作中提到】
: hey, test result was out.
: by the way, nature often retracts papers
:
: for
: in
: is
: embarrassment

a*******e
发帖数: 245
10
这位老师,那个editor写的那些东西早已经非常涉及到politics。
这个时候咱们再单纯的讲道理,就是回到一百年前的老路上了,最后还是挨打的份
对强盗和流氓来说,斗争才能赢得未来。

【在 I*****y 的大作中提到】
: as a senior scientist, you know it better than I do that a negative test
: result just means it did not detect the drug or the test did not work
: properly. I am not taking either side, so hold your fire off of me.

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大家快去Vote大家能不能总结一下在Nature发文比较多的华人科学家
连nature也来高端黑叶诗文。。。 (转载)每日邮报:中国的转基因运动员
反击Nature的最佳策略!都吃多了,不要再讨论什么造假的了,多聊点技术问题吧。
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d********f
发帖数: 43471
11
这是full公知水平了,直接可以tenure了

【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜,您通过了公知资格厕试
:
: for
: in
: is
: embarrassment

h****r
发帖数: 152
12
We love embarrassing ourselves. So what!

for
in
is
embarrassment

【在 I*****y 的大作中提到】
: First of all, most, if not all, of you guys don't know for sure whether Ye
: Shiwen took any drugs for boosting performance. I do not see a big point for
: attacking Callaway for his stupid allegation.
: If Ye Shiwen indeed took drugs, you guys are just embarrassing yourselves;
: if she is innocent of any drugs, great, you guys gave Callaway a big slap in
: his face. However, before you know any fact, why not stay calm and have
: some civilized discussion about Callaway and other people's suspicion. It is
: pointless and wrong to use allegation to attack allegation; at best, you
: guys are showing valor as a consolidated Chinese group or you guys are
: showing foolhardy stupidity, just as Callaway did in his self-embarrassment

s*****j
发帖数: 6435
13
还是博导水平高.

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 这是full公知水平了,直接可以tenure了
p****n
发帖数: 9263
14
不行,公知必须得在CNS (China Daily,Nanfang weekend, Sina highlighted) 发表过
原创普希作品才有资格恬妞

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 这是full公知水平了,直接可以tenure了
n****g
发帖数: 1063
15
re

【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 你根本就没明白为什么那么多人反对那篇Nature脑残文。现在所有检测都说她没有
: 用药,那她就是清白的,那帮子老外单把她列出来怀疑就是心怀不轨。即便以后
: 她被检查出来用药,那跟我们现在的辩护也毫无关系,而且我们也不用感到任何
: 耻辱甚至尴尬。
:
: for
: in
: is
: embarrassment

g****h
发帖数: 771
16
re

【在 w***a 的大作中提到】
: 你这种屁话这几天说了N遍了,毫无新意,根本不值得一驳。
:
: for
: in
: is
: embarrassment

w*****0
发帖数: 3349
17
又来了,就一句,为什么作者不去质疑美国的游泳运动员呢?像网友说的,也有不少这
次奥运会上成绩大幅度提高。为什么?
一码归一码,即使万一Ye以后出了问题,那也不会影响现在这篇文章的错误导向。LZ貌
似站在公知一边,连Nature editor也出来承认原文由错误的导向,似乎在引导读者说
Ye实际上是服药了,只不过现在的技术无法检测。
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