d***a
发帖数: 57 | 1 昨天在mit draper打的。北开叫，两家pass，我坐南，
A
AKQ98743
J4
QT
开叫4h，make
计分纸上，所有牌桌的结果都一模一样
北手里的牌：
QJ965
65
A2
9872
这种牌当同伴pass之后，我基本不指望他有两个A。
虽然前几天在BBO打过一手，同伴倒是刚好有两个A而pass了的。
那种是极少数情况，况且将牌也有可能很不利分布。开叫4h是
唯一的选择。
我的感想是所有人都很清楚要这样叫牌了，那么想要达到最佳
效果，有可能需要想一点新招出来。 |
g******a
发帖数: 667 | 2 应该开叫2C。
同伴或许没有两个A，但是你打小满贯也不一定需要对家有两张A。
这手牌叫4H太强了。。。
【在 d***a 的大作中提到】
: 昨天在mit draper打的。北开叫，两家pass，我坐南，
: A
: AKQ98743
: J4
: QT
: 开叫4h，make
: 计分纸上，所有牌桌的结果都一模一样
: 北手里的牌：
: QJ965
: 65
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g******e
发帖数: 75 | 3 我估计会1c逼叫。直接叫4h太aggressive。
【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 应该开叫2C。
: 同伴或许没有两个A，但是你打小满贯也不一定需要对家有两张A。
: 这手牌叫4H太强了。。。
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f*o
发帖数: 168 | 4 a big NO for 2c
【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 应该开叫2C。
: 同伴或许没有两个A，但是你打小满贯也不一定需要对家有两张A。
: 这手牌叫4H太强了。。。
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 5 make trump one card longer and one card less in C/D
2C is ok
this is a standard 4H opening
【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 应该开叫2C。
: 同伴或许没有两个A，但是你打小满贯也不一定需要对家有两张A。
: 这手牌叫4H太强了。。。
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g******a
发帖数: 667 | 6 只有4输墩，一门坚固套，叫4H太强了。
对家随便有点配合就有满贯了。
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: make trump one card longer and one card less in C/D
: 2C is ok
: this is a standard 4H opening
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f*****h
发帖数: 1327 | 7 that is why I prefer Prec, if you can open 1c in prec
things will get more easy, you can ask each other slowly, and effectively...
【在 d***a 的大作中提到】
: 昨天在mit draper打的。北开叫，两家pass，我坐南，
: A
: AKQ98743
: J4
: QT
: 开叫4h，make
: 计分纸上，所有牌桌的结果都一模一样
: 北手里的牌：
: QJ965
: 65
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g******a
发帖数: 667 | 8 然后就会遇上那种使用上家开叫精确1C，手上0~4点，争叫1S的约定。。。
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: that is why I prefer Prec, if you can open 1c in prec
: things will get more easy, you can ask each other slowly, and effectively...
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d***a
发帖数: 57 | 9 and get pre-empted much easier-ly..
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: that is why I prefer Prec, if you can open 1c in prec
: things will get more easy, you can ask each other slowly, and effectively...
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c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 10 and after 1c, you get a 4S overcall directly...
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: that is why I prefer Prec, if you can open 1c in prec
: things will get more easy, you can ask each other slowly, and effectively...
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 11 This hand is slightly different. And I think it is even better to bid 4H here.
The reason is that opp has not yet get a chance to mention their possible spa
de suit. So it is urgent to bury them.
In the hand I gave, LHO opened 1S. In a sense if they have a fit in spade it c
annot be buried whatever you do. So its goal has changed somewhat. First, as c
ozofu mentioned, is to bury their minor suit. This may not be so urgent after
LHO's initial pass. Second, is to cut opps' info. exchange channel.
【在 d***a 的大作中提到】
: and get pre-empted much easier-ly..
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 12 This kind of argument can hardly get you anywhere. Playing precision you will
have other problems. Furthermore, as other posters pointed out here, if you op
en 1C here, you might face an even worse problem.
【在 f*****h 的大作中提到】
: that is why I prefer Prec, if you can open 1c in prec
: things will get more easy, you can ask each other slowly, and effectively...
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x***e
发帖数: 2449 | 13 4H is a little bit strong than the hand.
But I agree it is the best for this situation.
with PD passed, unless it is none vs vul, I will bid 4H with out hessitation.
have other problems. Furthermore, as other posters pointed out here, if you op
en 1C here, you might face an even worse problem.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: This kind of argument can hardly get you anywhere. Playing precision you will
: have other problems. Furthermore, as other posters pointed out here, if you op
: en 1C here, you might face an even worse problem.
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F*******h
发帖数: 136 | 14
【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: 4H is a little bit strong than the hand.
: But I agree it is the best for this situation.
: with PD passed, unless it is none vs vul, I will bid 4H with out hessitation.
:
: have other problems. Furthermore, as other posters pointed out here, if you op
: en 1C here, you might face an even worse problem.
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d***a
发帖数: 57 | 15 I like your analysis
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: This hand is slightly different. And I think it is even better to bid 4H here.
: The reason is that opp has not yet get a chance to mention their possible spa
: de suit. So it is urgent to bury them.
: In the hand I gave, LHO opened 1S. In a sense if they have a fit in spade it c
: annot be buried whatever you do. So its goal has changed somewhat. First, as c
: ozofu mentioned, is to bury their minor suit. This may not be so urgent after
: LHO's initial pass. Second, is to cut opps' info. exchange channel.
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g******a
发帖数: 667 | 16 我承认我实在不理解你们,为什么那么热衷于这种阻击叫?
尤其是第二副牌,手上有9个做牌赢墩,16点牌,对手根本没有显示出有配合,
E为什么要做4H开叫?即使对家第一家不叫,只要有点控制和配合,也可以轻易打
到小满贯.
第二副牌如果少张A,或者红心套缺张K或者Q我肯定会叫4H.但是如果我
拿这手牌,无论什么局况,第三家必然开叫2C.
【在 d***a 的大作中提到】
: I like your analysis
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g******a
发帖数: 667 | 17 标准的4H开叫牌是这样(第三家):
S: A
H: KQJxxxxx
D: xx
C: xx
或者这样
S: x
H: AKQxxxxx
D: Kx
C: xx
或者这样
S: A
H: AQJxxxxx
D: xx
C: xx
楼主的这手牌,就算是第三家开叫4H也太强了.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: make trump one card longer and one card less in C/D
: 2C is ok
: this is a standard 4H opening
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f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 18 这种4H，不完全是阻击叫。它实际是在考虑所有的可能发展情况后的一种策略性叫牌。它
的范围很宽，可以是很差的牌，也可以是很好的牌。正是因为这样对手才会难猜。而只要
他们多猜，他们就会多犯错误。
当然，这并不是说4H是绝对正确的。我在rec.games.bridge 上也帖过这牌，国际上很多专
家，有些是他们国家队的牌手，也都基本上同意4H。
这里的重点，不是如何恰当地把这牌给叫清楚，而是策略问题。
【在 g******a 的大作中提到】
: 标准的4H开叫牌是这样(第三家):
: S: A
: H: KQJxxxxx
: D: xx
: C: xx
: 或者这样
: S: x
: H: AKQxxxxx
: D: Kx
: C: xx
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