i****e 发帖数: 642 | 1 Team, red vs white
You hold:
9
T742
A6
JT7543
RHO You LHO CHO
1S P 2NT 3H
4C 5H 6S all pass
2NT should be popular Jacoby. You may not agree 5H, but it could work well.
Against 6S, what is your first choice of lead, and what is the second? What
is the worst lead you think? | b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 2 I would first ask two questions:
1) Does 2NT tend to show balanced hand?
2) Is 4C a cuebid, or good suit?
If opponents use the "standard" answer ("we haven't discussed those"), then
at least I can check:
1) Do they play splinter?
2) If no 3H interference, would 4C show a good suit? | j*******e 发帖数: 2168 | 3 I will lead DA.
Is 4C natual?
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Team, red vs white : You hold: : 9 : T742 : A6 : JT7543 : RHO You LHO CHO : 1S P 2NT 3H : 4C 5H 6S all pass : 2NT should be popular Jacoby. You may not agree 5H, but it could work well.
| b********r 发帖数: 2242 | 4 4C feels like cuebid.
I would lead DA, hoping p has DK or HA | b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 5 I also think DA is clear, but want to check the agreements of opps bidding
just to be sure. | b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 6 But, if 4C is just a cuebid but not a suit, I would admire a low diamond
lead, dummy most likely has DK. | i****e 发帖数: 642 | 7 J2NT tends to show balanced hand. I suppose that is the "standard". 4C was
not alerted. By the way, these are reasonable players, so I would expect
splinter should be part of their system.
If there is no 3H interference, 3C is short I suppose for most system. I
have no idea for 4C with or without interference. But peeking at the hand,
4C is not short :)
then
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I would first ask two questions: : 1) Does 2NT tend to show balanced hand? : 2) Is 4C a cuebid, or good suit? : If opponents use the "standard" answer ("we haven't discussed those"), then : at least I can check: : 1) Do they play splinter? : 2) If no 3H interference, would 4C show a good suit?
| b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 8 That's close to expectation.
Diamond lead is clear. No point to lead a club (partner cannot have void
there), probably don't want to lead a singleton trump either. If partner
doesn't have HA, we are not going to take any heart trick. At the table I
will lead DA, hoping for another trick in trump (or less likely, in hearts).
But I have strong admiration for a low diamond lead, that is the best
chance to get 2 diamond tricks.
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : J2NT tends to show balanced hand. I suppose that is the "standard". 4C was : not alerted. By the way, these are reasonable players, so I would expect : splinter should be part of their system. : If there is no 3H interference, 3C is short I suppose for most system. I : have no idea for 4C with or without interference. But peeking at the hand, : 4C is not short :) : : then
| i****e 发帖数: 642 | 9 It seems D lead is a popular choice. Do you worry opps discard D on C, so
you try to attack D?
Given that you have such a long C suit, it seems to me the chance for them
to discard D on C is not high. Given the fact pd bid 3H at red, I won't
expect opps can set up heart trick(s) for discard. A heart lead will be my
automatic lead. In other words, I like to defend this passively, although
that should not be the strategy for most slams. In the rare case we have a
heart trick, it is more likely for opps to discard a H on C, rather than D
on C, since they likely have some length in D.
From my post, you can guess someone made the worst lead. What do you think
the worst lead is? Or what will you exclude from lead first?
).
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : That's close to expectation. : Diamond lead is clear. No point to lead a club (partner cannot have void : there), probably don't want to lead a singleton trump either. If partner : doesn't have HA, we are not going to take any heart trick. At the table I : will lead DA, hoping for another trick in trump (or less likely, in hearts). : But I have strong admiration for a low diamond lead, that is the best : chance to get 2 diamond tricks.
| b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 10 These are valid points. Opponents won't have many hearts, so pitching D
loser away on C is unlikely.
I cannot imagine leading a trump.
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It seems D lead is a popular choice. Do you worry opps discard D on C, so : you try to attack D? : Given that you have such a long C suit, it seems to me the chance for them : to discard D on C is not high. Given the fact pd bid 3H at red, I won't : expect opps can set up heart trick(s) for discard. A heart lead will be my : automatic lead. In other words, I like to defend this passively, although : that should not be the strategy for most slams. In the rare case we have a : heart trick, it is more likely for opps to discard a H on C, rather than D : on C, since they likely have some length in D. : From my post, you can guess someone made the worst lead. What do you think
| | | i****e 发帖数: 642 | 11 A trump lead is bad if pard holds Qxx.
The real layout for opps:
AKxxxx
QJ
Jxx
Ax
QJxxx
x
KQx
KQ98
The bidding is rough, especially for the final 6S. The 5H bid takes away the
room for key card, and everyone has to guess. I personally don't like 5H,
but it works very well here, pushing opps to 6 with two aces missing. But it
backfires, since the lead was a low club, the only lead to allow 6S to make.
Sometimes, a reasonable lead could be the only failing lead, then we have to
live with it. I don't see any point to lead a club here. And if for any
reason, one decides to lead a club, given the club length and bidding, I
will lead J. If pard holds A or K, leading a low one may easily blow away a
trick.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : These are valid points. Opponents won't have many hearts, so pitching D : loser away on C is unlikely. : I cannot imagine leading a trump.
| v**********e 发帖数: 1295 | 12 4C is very greedy, if 2NT guarantee a balance hand.
5H is usually not good in such vul.
Force pass is better than 6S.
The lead is also abnormal.
Everyone wants to do something special at this table.
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : A trump lead is bad if pard holds Qxx. : The real layout for opps: : AKxxxx : QJ : Jxx : Ax : QJxxx : x : KQx : KQ98
| i****e 发帖数: 642 | 13 It looks like an usual table :)
Whether 4C is greedy depends on agreement. Since they will reach 4S at least
, 4C may not show extra, and not bidding 4C may deny C control. Some may
play 4C as suit slam try, all depending on agreement.
If none of above, I agree 4C is greedy: minimum hand, no ace. The only
feature is singleton heart.
【在 v**********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 4C is very greedy, if 2NT guarantee a balance hand. : 5H is usually not good in such vul. : Force pass is better than 6S. : The lead is also abnormal. : Everyone wants to do something special at this table.
| b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 14 Is this match from BBO? I see many times people lead randomly there, such as
lead 9 from KQJ9x (4th best) against suit game contract, so nothing would
surprise me. | i****e 发帖数: 642 | 15 It is pointless to discuss those novice play, unless for fun.
This is from VuGraph, so it won't be that bad.
as
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Is this match from BBO? I see many times people lead randomly there, such as : lead 9 from KQJ9x (4th best) against suit game contract, so nothing would : surprise me.
| v**********e 发帖数: 1295 | 16 其实有时候桌上的气氛会影响牌手的选择的,尤其是叫牌,或许桌上的火药味很浓,也
可能这副牌有人想造个大输赢,这样的叫牌也都是可以理解的。
但这个首攻看起来还是有点差的,如果是职业牌手不知道当时是基于什么考虑的。
【在 i****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It is pointless to discuss those novice play, unless for fun. : This is from VuGraph, so it won't be that bad. : : as
| b***y 发帖数: 2804 | 17 也许首攻方希望同伴能梅花将吃,然后回方块。但这根本不可能。同伴梅花空门的话肯
定会加倍。我觉得这手牌从叫牌到打牌都存在问题,有时候VuGraph也未必水平很高,
要看是什么比赛。 |
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