j***d
发帖数: 21 | 1 Any one has submission experience for it?
Is it true that only 牛人 can publish articles there?
What is the ranking of CACM? Some articles seems not very
good, too general to me.
Also each month there is a special topic. But I
never see a cfp for any special topic for cacm.
any idea to submit to those special topics?
Those editors (Diane Crawford, and etc) are 大牛
in the field, or just professional technical editors?
请各位大虾发表高见！ |
w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 2 it is a magazine not a journal.
what is the point of publishing there if you are not having too much time
on your hand?
【在 j***d 的大作中提到】
: Any one has submission experience for it?
: Is it true that only 牛人 can publish articles there?
: What is the ranking of CACM? Some articles seems not very
: good, too general to me.
: Also each month there is a special topic. But I
: never see a cfp for any special topic for cacm.
: any idea to submit to those special topics?
: Those editors (Diane Crawford, and etc) are 大牛
: in the field, or just professional technical editors?
: 请各位大虾发表高见！
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s***w
发帖数: 521 | 3 a small step to become a 牛人?
a famous magazine? a sign of status?
发信人: wildThing (东风起兮轰他娘, 安得巨浪兮吞扶桑), 信区: CS
标 题: Re: communications of acm
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 6 17:02:19 2005), 转信
it is a magazine not a journal.
what is the point of publishing there if you are not having too much time
on your hand?
【在 j***d 的大作中提到】
: Any one has submission experience for it?
: Is it true that only 牛人 can publish articles there?
: What is the ranking of CACM? Some articles seems not very
: good, too general to me.
: Also each month there is a special topic. But I
: never see a cfp for any special topic for cacm.
: any idea to submit to those special topics?
: Those editors (Diane Crawford, and etc) are 大牛
: in the field, or just professional technical editors?
: 请各位大虾发表高见！
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 4 it doesn't count as academic publication.
【在 s***w 的大作中提到】
: a small step to become a 牛人?
: a famous magazine? a sign of status?
: 发信人: wildThing (东风起兮轰他娘, 安得巨浪兮吞扶桑), 信区: CS
: 标 题: Re: communications of acm
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Jul 6 17:02:19 2005), 转信
: it is a magazine not a journal.
: what is the point of publishing there if you are not having too much time
: on your hand?
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 5 please.... Nature and Science are all magazine and they are also not
academic publications based on your classification.
Come on, shot three papers on CACM, you will become a assistant prof.
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: it doesn't count as academic publication.
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 6 I almost thought you said that publishing three papers in communications
of ACM, one can get tenure.
Have you read the stuff on that magazine?
It is intended for general audience and not for specific academic fields.
Science and Nature papers were cited in other Journal publications
Are you telling me CS people would think the same way about
communications of ACM ?
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: please.... Nature and Science are all magazine and they are also not
: academic publications based on your classification.
: Come on, shot three papers on CACM, you will become a assistant prof.
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l**j
发帖数: 312 | 7 The good journal is called "Journal of ACM".
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: I almost thought you said that publishing three papers in communications
: of ACM, one can get tenure.
: Have you read the stuff on that magazine?
: It is intended for general audience and not for specific academic fields.
: Science and Nature papers were cited in other Journal publications
: Are you telling me CS people would think the same way about
: communications of ACM ?
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 8 acm transactions as well.
ft. I have to find out when my paper was published by google.
【在 l**j 的大作中提到】
: The good journal is called "Journal of ACM".
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r****c
发帖数: 2585 | 9 come on, you can become an assistant professor
in Barrington University
Some guy in my department, who is a lecture
publish several, including one of the most downloaded
but that paper is bull shit,
no technical stuff, just review
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: please.... Nature and Science are all magazine and they are also not
: academic publications based on your classification.
: Come on, shot three papers on CACM, you will become a assistant prof.
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l**j
发帖数: 312 | 10 of course. I thought some people just confuse the *magazine* with the journal.
My advisor usually submits articles with little technical depth to magazines
(e.g., article from undergraduate thesis).
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: acm transactions as well.
: ft. I have to find out when my paper was published by google.
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 11 not that simple.
some magzines have higher impact factors than its corresponding trans.
and magazines also publish original research results.
your advisor is a big bull?
【在 l**j 的大作中提到】
: of course. I thought some people just confuse the *magazine* with the journal.
: My advisor usually submits articles with little technical depth to magazines
: (e.g., article from undergraduate thesis).
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l**j
发帖数: 312 | 12 a little bit more information: some magazines publish a lot of "overview"
or "visionary" articles. My advisor usually assigns new ideas to undergrads
to implement or develop, and then combine a few into such an article. He is
not that active or agressive as he is a prof. now, but he sometimes write
invited papers or overview papers for comm. of acm or others.
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: not that simple.
: some magzines have higher impact factors than its corresponding trans.
: and magazines also publish original research results.
:
: your advisor is a big bull?
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 13 any such a magazine in CS?
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: not that simple.
: some magzines have higher impact factors than its corresponding trans.
: and magazines also publish original research results.
:
: your advisor is a big bull?
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 14 yes, there are some "review" articles.
but there are some research articles too. Even some "review" articles are helpful and important to the community.
【在 l**j 的大作中提到】
: a little bit more information: some magazines publish a lot of "overview"
: or "visionary" articles. My advisor usually assigns new ideas to undergrads
: to implement or develop, and then combine a few into such an article. He is
: not that active or agressive as he is a prof. now, but he sometimes write
: invited papers or overview papers for comm. of acm or others.
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 15 Yes, in CS.
If you look at those citation based impact factors, some IEEE/ACM magzines
are pretty good/high. it is not rare.
I don't read trans regularly (only found/know specific articles there beforehand),but read/browse magzines/proceedings more...
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: any such a magazine in CS?
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 16 to me, IEEE transaction is not as good as ACM transactions.
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: Yes, in CS.
: If you look at those citation based impact factors, some IEEE/ACM magzines
: are pretty good/high. it is not rare.
: I don't read trans regularly (only found/know specific articles there beforehand),but read/browse magzines/proceedings more...
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 17 各位大佬，不要把对cacm的无知当作时髦好不好？
Communication of the ACM 是一个杂志，难道nature ,science不是杂志么？是杂志就是
给一般普通读者看的。nature ,science的文章也是面向普通读者的，篇幅比较短小，文字
和表述并不是多么的高深。但是在nature ,science上发表文章代表着一个非常重要的成果
。Communication of the ACM 上发表文章也是一个道理。
作为一个杂志自然有很多专栏，有一些文章可以说没有什么研究性质。nature ,science每
一期不是也有新闻报道之类的专栏么？你不会以为David A. Patterson 会把自己在CACM上
每期一次的President's letter当作自己的RESEARCH PUBLICATION吧？我说在CACM上发表
文章自然是发表research paper.
大家在轻视CACM的时候，有没有想到Communication of the ACM 上发表了多少经典文章？
有一片发表在CACM的文章大家可以读读：
Objective quality ra
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: to me, IEEE transaction is not as good as ACM transactions.
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 18 yeah. so said the three famous researchers in computer science.
Authors
Pairin Katerattanakul Western Michigan University
Bernard Han Western Michigan University
Soongoo Hong Dong-A University, Korea
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 各位大佬，不要把对cacm的无知当作时髦好不好？
: Communication of the ACM 是一个杂志，难道nature ,science不是杂志么？是杂志就是
: 给一般普通读者看的。nature ,science的文章也是面向普通读者的，篇幅比较短小，文字
: 和表述并不是多么的高深。但是在nature ,science上发表文章代表着一个非常重要的成果
: 。Communication of the ACM 上发表文章也是一个道理。
: 作为一个杂志自然有很多专栏，有一些文章可以说没有什么研究性质。nature ,science每
: 一期不是也有新闻报道之类的专栏么？你不会以为David A. Patterson 会把自己在CACM上
: 每期一次的President's letter当作自己的RESEARCH PUBLICATION吧？我说在CACM上发表
: 文章自然是发表research paper.
: 大家在轻视CACM的时候，有没有想到Communication of the ACM 上发表了多少经典文章？
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 19 看了wildThing 的解释，真的是好笑。
wildThing 说nature science牛是因为其他journal引用上面的文章。言下之意是CACM别的
JOURNAL不引用。
我们就随便翻看一个JOURNAL, ACM Transactions on Computer-Human Interaction (TOC
HI) Volume 12 , Issue 2 (June 2005) ,一共７篇研究文章。看看CACM的引用情况：
article 1: ＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
59 Muller, M. J., Christiansen, E., Nardi, B., and Dray, S. 2001. Spiritual
life and information Technology. Comm. ACM 44, 3 (March), 82--83.
article 2: ＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
6 Adams, A. and Sasse, M. A. 1999. The user is not the enemy. Comm. ACM (Dec
.
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: yeah. so said the three famous researchers in computer science.
: Authors
: Pairin Katerattanakul Western Michigan University
: Bernard Han Western Michigan University
: Soongoo Hong Dong-A University, Korea
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 20 referenced as what?
Human-computer interaction is akin to social science, If it references
Wall street journal, does it make it a academic paper?
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 看了wildThing 的解释，真的是好笑。
: wildThing 说nature science牛是因为其他journal引用上面的文章。言下之意是CACM别的
: JOURNAL不引用。
: 我们就随便翻看一个JOURNAL, ACM Transactions on Computer-Human Interaction (TOC
: HI) Volume 12 , Issue 2 (June 2005) ,一共７篇研究文章。看看CACM的引用情况：
: article 1: ＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
: 59 Muller, M. J., Christiansen, E., Nardi, B., and Dray, S. 2001. Spiritual
: life and information Technology. Comm. ACM 44, 3 (March), 82--83.
: article 2: ＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
: 6 Adams, A. and Sasse, M. A. 1999. The user is not the enemy. Comm. ACM (Dec
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 21 wildThing ，您老就在这里丢人现眼把。
等你发出来三篇cacm research paper，发完之后告诉一声，老夫出来给你嗑三个头。
估计这一辈子也别指望了。
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: referenced as what?
: Human-computer interaction is akin to social science, If it references
: Wall street journal, does it make it a academic paper?
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w***f
发帖数: 75 | 22 我不知道 Science or Nature 的情况怎么样， 但 CACM 里我认为和其他 Journal 有个
明显的界限 - CACM 的文章是不经过 Peer Review 的， 我想 Science, Nature 之流
是要 Peer Review 的吧? 引用 CACM 不能说明什么， Technical Report, Web Sites
甚至个人之间的 Email, 口头交流都可以被引用， 你不能说被引用的 email 也算
research paper 吧。
不是只有 CACM 的新闻报道才不 Peer Review, 而是 CACM 里的所有文章一般都不被
Peer Review。 CACM 因为这个不 Peer Review 的特点闹出的笑话， 错误太多了，
仔细找找每期都有。参见我上个月在本版的 Post. 这其实也没什么， 因为 CACM 的
定位并不是 reporting leading edge research, 它的定位， 相当于是 CS reserchers
的 computerworld Magine.
统计 CACM 的 Publication
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 看了wildThing 的解释，真的是好笑。
: wildThing 说nature science牛是因为其他journal引用上面的文章。言下之意是CACM别的
: JOURNAL不引用。
: 我们就随便翻看一个JOURNAL, ACM Transactions on Computer-Human Interaction (TOC
: HI) Volume 12 , Issue 2 (June 2005) ,一共７篇研究文章。看看CACM的引用情况：
: article 1: ＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
: 59 Muller, M. J., Christiansen, E., Nardi, B., and Dray, S. 2001. Spiritual
: life and information Technology. Comm. ACM 44, 3 (March), 82--83.
: article 2: ＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
: 6 Adams, A. and Sasse, M. A. 1999. The user is not the enemy. Comm. ACM (Dec
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 23 你别人生攻击. 也不是我一个人以为你是在胡说. 有理说理. 无理骂人更显的你浅薄.
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: wildThing ，您老就在这里丢人现眼把。
: 等你发出来三篇cacm research paper，发完之后告诉一声，老夫出来给你嗑三个头。
: 估计这一辈子也别指望了。
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 24 各位同学们，ACM Transactions on Computer-Human Interaction (TOC HI)
wildThing 说是研究social science 的。
转joke版，哈哈。。。。
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 你别人生攻击. 也不是我一个人以为你是在胡说. 有理说理. 无理骂人更显的你浅薄.
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 25 你是三岁小儿
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 各位同学们，ACM Transactions on Computer-Human Interaction (TOC HI)
: wildThing 说是研究social science 的。
: 转joke版，哈哈。。。。
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 26 老夫研究CHI１０年了，第一次听说。
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 你是三岁小儿
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 27 怪不得对CACM偏爱有加. 对我说CHI is akin to social science如此震怒. 哈哈...
你要不信CACM不是很重要, 你问问你系主任, 上面的文章算不算老师的publication.
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 老夫研究CHI１０年了，第一次听说。
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 28 老大，你说CACM不好，我可以和你争。
你说CHI是社会科学的东东，我们就不要争了。赫赫。。。
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 怪不得对CACM偏爱有加. 对我说CHI is akin to social science如此震怒. 哈哈...
: 你要不信CACM不是很重要, 你问问你系主任, 上面的文章算不算老师的publication.
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932 | 29 I am entitled to my opinion.
akin != equal.
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 老大，你说CACM不好，我可以和你争。
: 你说CHI是社会科学的东东，我们就不要争了。赫赫。。。
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w***f
发帖数: 75 | 30 请报出您的曾经的 research projects, 让我敬仰一下 ^_^
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 老夫研究CHI１０年了，第一次听说。
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 31 我没说有什么成果需要敬仰，我只是说说CHI是SOCIAL SCIENCE 一类就不对了。
【在 w***f 的大作中提到】
: 请报出您的曾经的 research projects, 让我敬仰一下 ^_^
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w***f
发帖数: 75 | 32 俺碰巧也是做 HCI 的， 我认为说 HCI 里的某些 research directions akin to social
sciences 并不为过。 当然说 CHI 整体 akin to social science 也不严谨， 但
这里毕竟是聊天的 BBS, 不用抠字眼.
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 我没说有什么成果需要敬仰，我只是说说CHI是SOCIAL SCIENCE 一类就不对了。
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s***e
发帖数: 1490 | 33 spt
【在 w***f 的大作中提到】
: 我不知道 Science or Nature 的情况怎么样， 但 CACM 里我认为和其他 Journal 有个
: 明显的界限 - CACM 的文章是不经过 Peer Review 的， 我想 Science, Nature 之流
: 是要 Peer Review 的吧? 引用 CACM 不能说明什么， Technical Report, Web Sites
: 甚至个人之间的 Email, 口头交流都可以被引用， 你不能说被引用的 email 也算
: research paper 吧。
: 不是只有 CACM 的新闻报道才不 Peer Review, 而是 CACM 里的所有文章一般都不被
: Peer Review。 CACM 因为这个不 Peer Review 的特点闹出的笑话， 错误太多了，
: 仔细找找每期都有。参见我上个月在本版的 Post. 这其实也没什么， 因为 CACM 的
: 定位并不是 reporting leading edge research, 它的定位， 相当于是 CS reserchers
: 的 computerworld Magine.
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 34 罢了，罢了，反正communications of acm风流已经不再。
想１０年之前。。。
【在 w***f 的大作中提到】
: 俺碰巧也是做 HCI 的， 我认为说 HCI 里的某些 research directions akin to social
: sciences 并不为过。 当然说 CHI 整体 akin to social science 也不严谨， 但
: 这里毕竟是聊天的 BBS, 不用抠字眼.
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 35 同行同行。
CHI可以和social science没有任何关系，当然很多方向和social science有一定关系，还
和心理学等有关系。但是说CHI就像social science，我无法认可。
ACM CHI上的比较注重新的人机交互技术，计算机技术比较多；ＡＣＭ ＣＳＣＷ 上soc
ial science方向的文章有一些。研究软件和硬件的更和social science没有关系。
【在 w***f 的大作中提到】
: 俺碰巧也是做 HCI 的， 我认为说 HCI 里的某些 research directions akin to social
: sciences 并不为过。 当然说 CHI 整体 akin to social science 也不严谨， 但
: 这里毕竟是聊天的 BBS, 不用抠字眼.
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 36 well. it is those "social science" the usability of computer better and users just like it.
【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: referenced as what?
: Human-computer interaction is akin to social science, If it references
: Wall street journal, does it make it a academic paper?
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 37
honestly, I think this kind of references are not quite right. It is supposed that each cited reference can be found publicly or somewhere other ppl can find.
I know some ppl like to put personal communication as ref...I feel putting it to the footnote "thanks" is better.
You said the right point. When I first noticed non-peer review of CACM submission and actually you (authors) have to recommend several reviewers. ....it is kind of surprise to me. But most of the IEEE/ACM magizines are peer-re
【在 w***f 的大作中提到】
: 我不知道 Science or Nature 的情况怎么样， 但 CACM 里我认为和其他 Journal 有个
: 明显的界限 - CACM 的文章是不经过 Peer Review 的， 我想 Science, Nature 之流
: 是要 Peer Review 的吧? 引用 CACM 不能说明什么， Technical Report, Web Sites
: 甚至个人之间的 Email, 口头交流都可以被引用， 你不能说被引用的 email 也算
: research paper 吧。
: 不是只有 CACM 的新闻报道才不 Peer Review, 而是 CACM 里的所有文章一般都不被
: Peer Review。 CACM 因为这个不 Peer Review 的特点闹出的笑话， 错误太多了，
: 仔细找找每期都有。参见我上个月在本版的 Post. 这其实也没什么， 因为 CACM 的
: 定位并不是 reporting leading edge research, 它的定位， 相当于是 CS reserchers
: 的 computerworld Magine.
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 38 how many ppl attend annual CHI conference? just curious to know it. ..
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 我没说有什么成果需要敬仰，我只是说说CHI是SOCIAL SCIENCE 一类就不对了。
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