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V********1 发帖数: 16 | 2 要付钱的吧,不是全部免费的,就是收入低于一定水平可减免一部分。
要全免费可能还要隐藏一下国内的退休金收入什么的,我猜。
The answer is that Obamacare wasn’t designed to help healthy people with
average incomes get health insurance. It was designed to force those people
to pay more for coverage, in order to subsidize insurance for people with
incomes near the poverty line, and those with chronic or costly medical
conditions.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/14/obamacares
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M******f 发帖数: 179 | 3 Information:
2 adults
age 60
$ 0 income
then here it comes
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Results
If your state expands Medicaid
If your state chooses to expand Medicaid to everyone under 138% of the
poverty level under the ACA, you will be eligible for coverage under the
program. Medicaid coverage varies from state to state, but out-of-pocket
costs are generally modest. Smoking status is not taken into account in
Medicaid eligibility.
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If your state does not expand Medicaid
You will not be eligible for subsidies in the exchanges because your income
is below 100% of the federal poverty level.
The information below is about unsubsidized exchange coverage. Note that
depending on your state's eligibility requirements, you may still be
eligible for coverage through Medicaid.
Household income in 2014:
0% of poverty level
Unsubsidized annual health insurance premium in 2014:
$13,761
Maximum % of income you have to pay for the non-tobacco premium, if eligible
for a subsidy:
None
Amount you pay for the premium:
$13,761 per year
(which equals Infinity% of your household income and covers 100% of the
overall premium)
You could receive a government tax credit subsidy of up to:
$0
(which covers 0% of the overall premium)
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Unfortunately , State of NC choose not to expand its medicaid program
The Federally-facilitated Marketplace (FFM) will be offering health coverage
in North Carolina in 2014. The FFM will make assessments of Medicaid/CHIP
eligibility and then transfer the applicant’s account to the state agency
for a final eligibility determination. North Carolina is not expanding
Medicaid coverage to low-income adults effective January 1, 2014. |
M******f 发帖数: 179 | 4 有的人给我站内信,好想很生气的样子。我只提供事实,没有什么情绪。 在北卡,对
老人,日常如果有什么不舒服,可以去那家不收保险的诊所检查,因为他们不收任何保
险,所以 admin cost 低了很多,费用 好象是一般诊所 的 40% ,万一检查出来
大病, 如果 国内有医保,来得及就回国看,如果 不行,就进急诊,最好是公立医院
,如Wake Med . 如果 你决定要这样做,名下不能 have 任何财产,如存款房子 什么
的。因为州里有 Third party recovery 部门清偿。但是这样,子女付的那点税是完全
不够的,几乎杯水车薪. . 例如子女50 万的年薪,一张老人的hospital 帐单可能就
耗掉了这个50 万10年的州税。 所以说我如果多付了税,我父母就应该怎么样的,
it is not true.
至于Obamacare ,因为NC 决定不expand medicaid program , 所以两个60 岁的老人
如果 要加入的花, 一年大概 需要付 $13000 多刀。到65岁以后,情况回不
一样。
我今天 可以再确认 一下
为什么这样? 因为NC 2012 年收了10块的个人所得税,17块用于 福利了。 |
l*****g 发帖数: 157 | 5 Thanks for sharing.
How about two adults over 70 years old with green card? How much for the
insurance?
【在 M******f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有的人给我站内信,好想很生气的样子。我只提供事实,没有什么情绪。 在北卡,对 : 老人,日常如果有什么不舒服,可以去那家不收保险的诊所检查,因为他们不收任何保 : 险,所以 admin cost 低了很多,费用 好象是一般诊所 的 40% ,万一检查出来 : 大病, 如果 国内有医保,来得及就回国看,如果 不行,就进急诊,最好是公立医院 : ,如Wake Med . 如果 你决定要这样做,名下不能 have 任何财产,如存款房子 什么 : 的。因为州里有 Third party recovery 部门清偿。但是这样,子女付的那点税是完全 : 不够的,几乎杯水车薪. . 例如子女50 万的年薪,一张老人的hospital 帐单可能就 : 耗掉了这个50 万10年的州税。 所以说我如果多付了税,我父母就应该怎么样的, : it is not true. : 至于Obamacare ,因为NC 决定不expand medicaid program , 所以两个60 岁的老人
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M******f 发帖数: 179 | 6 I am not an expert of this subject matter, but I would like to share and you
need to verify if you have a case.
Though I have my own opinions, I do not mean to offend anyone.
If you are 65 or over, ObamaCare has nothing to do with you. It only applies
to those who are 64 or under.
If you are 64 or under and you have no taxable income in 2014, you probably
would not get anything from ObamaCare since State of NC would not expand
its Medicaid program , basically you have to pay 13,000 dollars around to
get basic coverage under ObamaCare if you are 60
To get subsidy from the government, for two adults under 65 without young
children , you need taxable income around $20,000 to maximize your benefits.
If that happens, you only need to pay $400 to cover two 60 –year- olds.
If you are 65 or over and you have worked in the U.S for ten years and have
40 credits,, you are eligible for Medicare . Medicare is a pay in program,
not entitlement. If you do not pay the Medicare taxes for ten years, you
would not get it.
If you are 65, Medicaid would only step in when your income is low enough
and you are not able to pay the deductibles of Medicare. It is not the
primary payor source for criticizes. It is secondary and for emergency.
Medicaid first priority is to assist low income families with young children
. If you do not have young children and you are not in Emergency room, it
is hard to get it in NC .
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T*****i 发帖数: 523 | 7 A green card holder has a sponsor,it is their responsibility to support the
person,not the US taxpayers. Green card holders are not eligible for any
benefits for the first 5 years in the states. After that,they can apply but
their sponsor will be responsible to pay back any benefits that are given,
presumably. |
T*****i 发帖数: 523 | 8 Foreign nationals who have permanent resident status may qualify to "buy"
Medicare coverage if they have lived in the United States continuously for
at least five years and if they are at least 65 years old. Most people who
have worked and paid taxes in the U.S. will receive basic Medicare (Part A)
at no additional cost when they reach age 65. In your case, your parents
have not worked or paid FICA taxes in the U.S. will be required to pay the
Medicare Part A premium (you'll pay up to $441 each month in 2013).
But notice that there is always Emergency Medicaid for Immigrants available.
However, this is situational and only pays a limited benefit for care
provided on a retro basis. ie, you go into ER, and say your an immigrant,
the Hospital will apply for Medicaid for your trip to the ER only. |
V********1 发帖数: 16 | 9 你这是说, 如果65 岁以下,必须有一定的收入,当然这个收入不能太高,才能 从
obamacare 获益吗?比方你说的如果两个人收入两万美元,没有孩子,一年只需付400 块
? 如果干脆没有收入,反倒自己要付一万多? 这是什么道理呢?
子女公民才能把父母搞过来,这里靠子女获得绿卡的 父母大多数都65 了吧,所以
obamacare 对获得绿卡超过65 的的父母根本没有任何益处? 是这样吗。
you
applies
probably
【在 M******f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I am not an expert of this subject matter, but I would like to share and you : need to verify if you have a case. : Though I have my own opinions, I do not mean to offend anyone. : If you are 65 or over, ObamaCare has nothing to do with you. It only applies : to those who are 64 or under. : If you are 64 or under and you have no taxable income in 2014, you probably : would not get anything from ObamaCare since State of NC would not expand : its Medicaid program , basically you have to pay 13,000 dollars around to : get basic coverage under ObamaCare if you are 60 : To get subsidy from the government, for two adults under 65 without young
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V********1 发帖数: 16 | 10 急盼答疑,谢谢!
400 块
【在 V********1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你这是说, 如果65 岁以下,必须有一定的收入,当然这个收入不能太高,才能 从 : obamacare 获益吗?比方你说的如果两个人收入两万美元,没有孩子,一年只需付400 块 : ? 如果干脆没有收入,反倒自己要付一万多? 这是什么道理呢? : 子女公民才能把父母搞过来,这里靠子女获得绿卡的 父母大多数都65 了吧,所以 : obamacare 对获得绿卡超过65 的的父母根本没有任何益处? 是这样吗。 : : you : applies : probably
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M******f 发帖数: 179 | 11 是这样,在北卡,如果你要想从obamacare 中获益,必须有收入超过138% poverty
line ,大概两个人就是18000-20000 美元左右,这样一年自己只需要负担3
00-400 美元。如果干脆没有收入,政府是不会补助的,原因可能是反正需要你自
己负担的那部分你也负担不起,因为去看医生,总有deductible的, 所以干脆就算了
。NC 是non expanding medicaid 的州。
400 块
【在 V********1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你这是说, 如果65 岁以下,必须有一定的收入,当然这个收入不能太高,才能 从 : obamacare 获益吗?比方你说的如果两个人收入两万美元,没有孩子,一年只需付400 块 : ? 如果干脆没有收入,反倒自己要付一万多? 这是什么道理呢? : 子女公民才能把父母搞过来,这里靠子女获得绿卡的 父母大多数都65 了吧,所以 : obamacare 对获得绿卡超过65 的的父母根本没有任何益处? 是这样吗。 : : you : applies : probably
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M******f 发帖数: 179 | 12 You can sign up and try your luck for your parents anyway.
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V********1 发帖数: 16 | 13 什么是 non expanding 州啊?
【在 M******f 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 是这样,在北卡,如果你要想从obamacare 中获益,必须有收入超过138% poverty : line ,大概两个人就是18000-20000 美元左右,这样一年自己只需要负担3 : 00-400 美元。如果干脆没有收入,政府是不会补助的,原因可能是反正需要你自 : 己负担的那部分你也负担不起,因为去看医生,总有deductible的, 所以干脆就算了 : 。NC 是non expanding medicaid 的州。 : : 400 块
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V********1 发帖数: 16 | 14 我为我父母sign up 了, 需要绿卡号,社安号,但是就是到收入那一步就过不去了,
就是老让等着,我不知道是我们不合格还是网站的问题? 这里有人为自己父母申请成
功了吗?
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V********1 发帖数: 16 | 15 你申请了吗?
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V********1 发帖数: 16 | 16 拿到绿卡后的父母都60 以上了, 很多一得大病医疗费用就是天文数字,我们怎么 pay
back 啊?
the
but
【在 T*****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : A green card holder has a sponsor,it is their responsibility to support the : person,not the US taxpayers. Green card holders are not eligible for any : benefits for the first 5 years in the states. After that,they can apply but : their sponsor will be responsible to pay back any benefits that are given, : presumably.
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V********1 发帖数: 16 | 17 你为你父母申请了吗?
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks for sharing. : How about two adults over 70 years old with green card? How much for the : insurance?
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