p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 1 ALL EB1 is current, nothing to do with the 3000.
EB3C's cut-off date is same as EB-3 ROW, nothing to do with the 3000.
can Chinese EB-2 get more visa number than last year???
I said "3000是虚，4000是实。" --- Chinese EB-2 got/get nothing. NOTHING!!!
得到啥？ --- Chinese EB-2 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Immigration/31654219.html
why your guys want to take the credit about "从FB到EB,３０００名额"???? |
b**7
发帖数: 48 | 2 Do you have any idea about what are some good things that we should do?
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: ALL EB1 is current, nothing to do with the 3000.
: EB3C's cut-off date is same as EB-3 ROW, nothing to do with the 3000.
: can Chinese EB-2 get more visa number than last year???
: I said "3000是虚，4000是实。" --- Chinese EB-2 got/get nothing. NOTHING!!!
: 得到啥？ --- Chinese EB-2 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Immigration/31654219.html
: why your guys want to take the credit about "从FB到EB,３０００名额"????
|
g******c
发帖数: 218 | 3 i basically understand what you complained in earlier post. However I think
there was a post that EB2 ROW spill over will be allocated to EB2 first.
As to FB spill over, it can go first to country limit, then E1/E2/E3 in this
order within the country. Or it can go to E1/E2/E3 not considering 7%
country limit.
the difference of two is leftover from FB C vs leftover from FB total. If
FB C leftover is greater than 1/3 of FB total leftover, EB2 benefits
immediately and EB3 will benefits once EB2 |
g***i
发帖数: 10 | 4 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/EB23/31160619.html
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: ALL EB1 is current, nothing to do with the 3000.
: EB3C's cut-off date is same as EB-3 ROW, nothing to do with the 3000.
: can Chinese EB-2 get more visa number than last year???
: I said "3000是虚，4000是实。" --- Chinese EB-2 got/get nothing. NOTHING!!!
: 得到啥？ --- Chinese EB-2 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Immigration/31654219.html
: why your guys want to take the credit about "从FB到EB,３０００名额"????
|
d****y
发帖数: 1671 | 5 您歇了吧。啥时候等您真正做点什么后再回来卖弄好吗？
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: ALL EB1 is current, nothing to do with the 3000.
: EB3C's cut-off date is same as EB-3 ROW, nothing to do with the 3000.
: can Chinese EB-2 get more visa number than last year???
: I said "3000是虚，4000是实。" --- Chinese EB-2 got/get nothing. NOTHING!!!
: 得到啥？ --- Chinese EB-2 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Immigration/31654219.html
: why your guys want to take the credit about "从FB到EB,３０００名额"????
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m****n
发帖数: 815 | 6 您又出来装大仙了？上次闹了一阵vertical spillover，搞得鸡飞狗叫的。后来被奥本
亲自给否决了。过了几周看风头过了，又出来装葱？
问你一句，去年最差的时候您在哪呢？听说炒股票去了。
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: ALL EB1 is current, nothing to do with the 3000.
: EB3C's cut-off date is same as EB-3 ROW, nothing to do with the 3000.
: can Chinese EB-2 get more visa number than last year???
: I said "3000是虚，4000是实。" --- Chinese EB-2 got/get nothing. NOTHING!!!
: 得到啥？ --- Chinese EB-2 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Immigration/31654219.html
: why your guys want to take the credit about "从FB到EB,３０００名额"????
|
p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 7 Do not do something which finally hurt Chinese EB-2!!!
I know you got GC. I and other Chinese EB-2 are waiting GC. |
r***1
发帖数: 50 | 8 P838, you are a capable man. You are waiting Greencard as rest of us. Why
not lead us doing something? If you applied chairman of NIU, I would be 100%
support you. However, last year you spent your rest of time on playing
stock and this year, as you said, working on housing and remodeling.
Honestly I can not see any corelation between what you did and fighting for
EB2 China right. I hope you are still the P838 I knew in 2007, at least
calling Mr O and did some real thing for EB2 China benefit. |
p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 9 I am too busy to join any ORG(LIA or NIU). but I am doing somthing for
myself and chinese EB-2. I talked with Mr. O every month since May 2008.(
many EB-2s in EB-2 club know that.)
by the way, I was LIA member, donated more than $200 to LIA.
100%
for
【在 r***1 的大作中提到】
: P838, you are a capable man. You are waiting Greencard as rest of us. Why
: not lead us doing something? If you applied chairman of NIU, I would be 100%
: support you. However, last year you spent your rest of time on playing
: stock and this year, as you said, working on housing and remodeling.
: Honestly I can not see any corelation between what you did and fighting for
: EB2 China right. I hope you are still the P838 I knew in 2007, at least
: calling Mr O and did some real thing for EB2 China benefit.
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m****n
发帖数: 815 | 10 Can you actually do SOMETHING besides these gibberish garbage?
Your reason is that if we mention 7%, Oppenheim will use vertical spillover
and give spillover to EB3 ROW. There are laws from the congress in 2007 said
explicitly this will not be the case. Even Oppenheim himself said he will
use horizontal spillover that is EB2 ROW -> EB2C/I.
I know your PD is not too far away. Not rocking the boat may be your best
interest. We are not rocking the boat. We wanted to get everybody green card
faster.
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: Do not do something which finally hurt Chinese EB-2!!!
: I know you got GC. I and other Chinese EB-2 are waiting GC.
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 11 Well, there is an scenario (quite likely). If Chinese EB1/EB2/EB3+FB >7%
before spillover this year, quite possible since EB1 will have more
applications this year, then EB2C won't get any leftover from FB at all, if
Mr.O follow NIU's proposal of enforce 7% first before apply vertical
spillover rule.
Most spillover (no matter how much) will flow to other countries less than 7
% limit (but have EB3C and other kinds of backlog) before go to EBB2C and
EB2I. If I understand correctly, this is ver
【在 g******c 的大作中提到】
: i basically understand what you complained in earlier post. However I think
: there was a post that EB2 ROW spill over will be allocated to EB2 first.
: As to FB spill over, it can go first to country limit, then E1/E2/E3 in this
: order within the country. Or it can go to E1/E2/E3 not considering 7%
: country limit.
: the difference of two is leftover from FB C vs leftover from FB total. If
: FB C leftover is greater than 1/3 of FB total leftover, EB2 benefits
: immediately and EB3 will benefits once EB2
|
p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 12 100000% sure : EB2 ROW -> EB2C/I.
you still do not know the point.
spillover
said
card
not
was
【在 m****n 的大作中提到】
: Can you actually do SOMETHING besides these gibberish garbage?
: Your reason is that if we mention 7%, Oppenheim will use vertical spillover
: and give spillover to EB3 ROW. There are laws from the congress in 2007 said
: explicitly this will not be the case. Even Oppenheim himself said he will
: use horizontal spillover that is EB2 ROW -> EB2C/I.
: I know your PD is not too far away. Not rocking the boat may be your best
: interest. We are not rocking the boat. We wanted to get everybody green card
: faster.
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 13 Quite confused. Mr.O said vertical spillover > horizontal spillover. Ture.
however, what we are talking here are neither.
If 7% contry limit > vertical spillover > horizontal spillover rule is
enforced, the spillover will go to EB3ROW before EB2C/I since these
countries reach 7% limit. They wont' call it horizontal spillover although
it IS horizontal spillover.
EB3I PD is not moving,not a good sign I guess? Guess they reached 7% or
estimated will reach 7% for sure so won't get any FB spillove
【在 m****n 的大作中提到】
: Can you actually do SOMETHING besides these gibberish garbage?
: Your reason is that if we mention 7%, Oppenheim will use vertical spillover
: and give spillover to EB3 ROW. There are laws from the congress in 2007 said
: explicitly this will not be the case. Even Oppenheim himself said he will
: use horizontal spillover that is EB2 ROW -> EB2C/I.
: I know your PD is not too far away. Not rocking the boat may be your best
: interest. We are not rocking the boat. We wanted to get everybody green card
: faster.
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 14 I said many times "As a EB-2, Do not touch 7% limit" because Chinese EB-2
have to get more than 7%.
EB3C have to get their 7%, EB3C can touch 7% for their interest.
if
7
any
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: Well, there is an scenario (quite likely). If Chinese EB1/EB2/EB3+FB >7%
: before spillover this year, quite possible since EB1 will have more
: applications this year, then EB2C won't get any leftover from FB at all, if
: Mr.O follow NIU's proposal of enforce 7% first before apply vertical
: spillover rule.
: Most spillover (no matter how much) will flow to other countries less than 7
: % limit (but have EB3C and other kinds of backlog) before go to EBB2C and
: EB2I. If I understand correctly, this is ver
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c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 15 JOKE ALWAYS HAS NO POINTS AT ALL.
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: Quite confused. Mr.O said vertical spillover > horizontal spillover. Ture.
: however, what we are talking here are neither.
: If 7% contry limit > vertical spillover > horizontal spillover rule is
: enforced, the spillover will go to EB3ROW before EB2C/I since these
: countries reach 7% limit. They wont' call it horizontal spillover although
: it IS horizontal spillover.
: EB3I PD is not moving,not a good sign I guess? Guess they reached 7% or
: estimated will reach 7% for sure so won't get any FB spillove
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 16 p838 老大。
终于找到中文了。能不能有点耐心解释一下你的观点？或者是给个link?
What I am observing, everybody is guessing what you are talking about. If
you really want to help, at least explain a little bit more?
Otherwise, I am not really sure what you are up to. |
p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 17 the point EB1/4/5 unused visa number, not EB2 ROW -> EB2C/I
If EB-2 can not get EB1/4/5 unused visa number, chinese EB-2 will get less
unused visa number than last year, ONLY get the 7% + a few. |
W*********r
发帖数: 989 | 18 EB1C used 5000 last year. This year, there are not much left from EB1/4/5 as
I estimated.
EB2C won't get much unless there are tons of spillover.
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: the point EB1/4/5 unused visa number, not EB2 ROW -> EB2C/I
: If EB-2 can not get EB1/4/5 unused visa number, chinese EB-2 will get less
: unused visa number than last year, ONLY get the 7% + a few.
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c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 19 what is your point?
extral quota goes to EB-1->EB2->EB3.
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: the point EB1/4/5 unused visa number, not EB2 ROW -> EB2C/I
: If EB-2 can not get EB1/4/5 unused visa number, chinese EB-2 will get less
: unused visa number than last year, ONLY get the 7% + a few.
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 20 Thanks. Now I get your point.
Then another question：
“Tell your guy, probably Chinese EB-2 will get less unused visa number than
last year."
What do you mean? means EB2 ROW will have no spillover this year? That's
what I am really confused about.
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: the point EB1/4/5 unused visa number, not EB2 ROW -> EB2C/I
: If EB-2 can not get EB1/4/5 unused visa number, chinese EB-2 will get less
: unused visa number than last year, ONLY get the 7% + a few.
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 21 Mr. O told NIU NO EB1/4/5 unused visa number for EB-2 in this year.
Indian EB-2 will eat almost all EB-2 ROW unused visa number.
than
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: Thanks. Now I get your point.
: Then another question：
: “Tell your guy, probably Chinese EB-2 will get less unused visa number than
: last year."
: What do you mean? means EB2 ROW will have no spillover this year? That's
: what I am really confused about.
:
:
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 22 P838's point, if I understand correctly:
extra quota from other than EB2ROW, will go to those countries have less
than 7% limit before go to EB2, if Mr.O follow NIU's suggest to enforce
country 7% limit.
【在 c**s 的大作中提到】
: what is your point?
: extral quota goes to EB-1->EB2->EB3.
:
:
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c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 23 how?
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: P838's point, if I understand correctly:
: extra quota from other than EB2ROW, will go to those countries have less
: than 7% limit before go to EB2, if Mr.O follow NIU's suggest to enforce
: country 7% limit.
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W*********r
发帖数: 989 | 24 No. The spillover will be allocated by PD, which EB2I have much earlier PD
then us. So they will eat most of the
spillover.
No other countries has PD for EB2s only I and C.
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: P838's point, if I understand correctly:
: extra quota from other than EB2ROW, will go to those countries have less
: than 7% limit before go to EB2, if Mr.O follow NIU's suggest to enforce
: country 7% limit.
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 25 hehe, guess too complicated for me to understand.
Where is the link Mr.O said that? I know last year EB2I/C got EB1/4/5
spillovers, although not much. If not this year, definitely hurt EB2.
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: Mr. O told NIU NO EB1/4/5 unused visa number for EB-2 in this year.
: Indian EB-2 will eat almost all EB-2 ROW unused visa number.
:
: than
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c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 26 That is the point.
"extra quota from other than EB2ROW" will follow the current PD rule(
implemented in 2007,2008,2009) for allocation.
【在 W*********r 的大作中提到】
: No. The spillover will be allocated by PD, which EB2I have much earlier PD
: then us. So they will eat most of the
: spillover.
: No other countries has PD for EB2s only I and C.
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l**k
发帖数: 1755 | 27 Well Mr.O can enforce spillover be allocated by country limit before PD,
then EB3 will benefit?
Alright, I quit trying to understand the whole mess.
【在 W*********r 的大作中提到】
: No. The spillover will be allocated by PD, which EB2I have much earlier PD
: then us. So they will eat most of the
: spillover.
: No other countries has PD for EB2s only I and C.
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 28 Please ask NIU.
Do not do something which finally hurt Chinese EB-2!!!
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: hehe, guess too complicated for me to understand.
: Where is the link Mr.O said that? I know last year EB2I/C got EB1/4/5
: spillovers, although not much. If not this year, definitely hurt EB2.
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c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 29 where is spillover before the country limit?
how to define spillover?
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: Well Mr.O can enforce spillover be allocated by country limit before PD,
: then EB3 will benefit?
: Alright, I quit trying to understand the whole mess.
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W*********r
发帖数: 989 | 30 There is no spillover for EB3 because EB2CI will eat all spillover.
Even there is spillover in EB3, EB3I and EBROW will eat spillover before
EB3C because they have earlier PD.
【在 l**k 的大作中提到】
: Well Mr.O can enforce spillover be allocated by country limit before PD,
: then EB3 will benefit?
: Alright, I quit trying to understand the whole mess.
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c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 31 joke. ask yourself whether you could change the allocation rule.
you hurt LIA, eb-3 and NIU all the time and finally hurt everybody here.
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: Please ask NIU.
: Do not do something which finally hurt Chinese EB-2!!!
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c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 32 P忽悠挑动EB－２和EB－３高高手啊，破坏任何组织，抬高自己的能力，老夫佩服得紧。
【在 W*********r 的大作中提到】
: There is no spillover for EB3 because EB2CI will eat all spillover.
: Even there is spillover in EB3, EB3I and EBROW will eat spillover before
: EB3C because they have earlier PD.
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i*****r
发帖数: 372 | 33 好吧, 如果今年EB1/4/5 worldwide 有剩余名额, 而O将这些剩余名额给了EB3 ROW而不
给EB2 C/I, 我有足够的理由说明这样做违反INA. |
F*****t
发帖数: 2580 | 34 如果严格按照EB+FB=7%，EB2C去年就不会只分到<300个名额。今年如果遵循EB+FB=7%，
EB2C拿到的名额怎么会比去年还少。现在的问题不过是今年的EB+FB spillover能不能
让中国的EB+FB>7%。在不知目前的visa确切使用情况下，一切都只能是猜测 |
c**s
发帖数: 3796 | 35 P８３８的本质就是，啥事不做，然后对任何组织进行破坏，扇风点火搞内讧，以抬高
自己的英雄地位。让自己名声高过任何组织和个人，唯我独尊。 |
p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 36 7% limit can help him.
【在 i*****r 的大作中提到】
: 好吧, 如果今年EB1/4/5 worldwide 有剩余名额, 而O将这些剩余名额给了EB3 ROW而不
: 给EB2 C/I, 我有足够的理由说明这样做违反INA.
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i*****r
发帖数: 372 | 37 我们都知道INA有两大块, 如果将EB1/4/5 worldwide的剩余给了EB3 ROW符合其中一条,
但是违反了另一条, 那算不算违法? 如果将EB1/4/5的剩余给EB2则两条都不违反, 那
是不是应该遵循呢?
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: 7% limit can help him.
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p**8
发帖数: 3883 | 38 7% is base.
条,
【在 i*****r 的大作中提到】
: 我们都知道INA有两大块, 如果将EB1/4/5 worldwide的剩余给了EB3 ROW符合其中一条,
: 但是违反了另一条, 那算不算违法? 如果将EB1/4/5的剩余给EB2则两条都不违反, 那
: 是不是应该遵循呢?
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J****7
发帖数: 375 | 39 根据我对你了解（我们之间通过邮件的），你对移民法的了解不及水冰儿的一半，所以
你还是不要现了吧。
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: 7% limit can help him.
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a********p
发帖数: 46 | 40 Support.
条,
【在 i*****r 的大作中提到】
: 我们都知道INA有两大块, 如果将EB1/4/5 worldwide的剩余给了EB3 ROW符合其中一条,
: 但是违反了另一条, 那算不算违法? 如果将EB1/4/5的剩余给EB2则两条都不违反, 那
: 是不是应该遵循呢?
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g******c
发帖数: 218 | 41 P838, if Mr. O argues 7% is the base, then we can easily use it to argue
against his allocation rule for EB2 ROW. 7% is diversity, not PD. I don't
think he wants to go that way.
Besides can anyone one tell me how many spillovers EB2 C got last year on
top of 7%. In the worst scenario, EB2 ROW leaves 10000 and that is the only
thing available for EB2 C. How many spillovers will be available for EB2 C
on top of 7% based on current cutoff date and inventory at USCIS?
Let's discuss it with numbe |
l*******r
发帖数: 218 | 42 你也不用过于担心7%的付作用。剩余名额的分配不受7%是有法律依据的。即使要7%的挟
制，中印韩菲墨五大国去年都是接近或超过7%。“卡住EB3"，在现在的经济形势下，看
来是移民局的共识，最终的名额还是要回到EB2.
从mitbbs，还有身边的朋友的批准情况看，今年的EB1估计比09年要多一些；从PERM的
批准情况看EB2ROW, EB3ROW都会减少很多；看FB的批准情况如何？
大家不要太悲观。
【在 p**8 的大作中提到】
: ALL EB1 is current, nothing to do with the 3000.
: EB3C's cut-off date is same as EB-3 ROW, nothing to do with the 3000.
: can Chinese EB-2 get more visa number than last year???
: I said "3000是虚，4000是实。" --- Chinese EB-2 got/get nothing. NOTHING!!!
: 得到啥？ --- Chinese EB-2 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Immigration/31654219.html
: why your guys want to take the credit about "从FB到EB,３０００名额"????
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c**s
发帖数: 3796 | |
T****k
发帖数: 1374 | 44 That 3000-4000 should bring EB2C to Mar,06. PD later than that have to share
spillover with EB2I. Hopefully EB1 demand is not as high as last year? So
all the vertical spillover can go to EB2 and push PD to later 2006. |
j********1
发帖数: 762 | 45 No!
4000 x 28.5%=~1000 to EB2 |
w*******r
发帖数: 2792 | 46 难道1类也需要剩余名额？
【在 j********1 的大作中提到】
: No!
: 4000 x 28.5%=~1000 to EB2
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t*****y
发帖数: 445 | 47 the point is whether they will allocate these quotes to china or not
if they don't move china EB2 priority date forward, it's going to be wasted
and from my experience, Oppenheim does not follow any rules
simply fucking idiot
share
【在 T****k 的大作中提到】
: That 3000-4000 should bring EB2C to Mar,06. PD later than that have to share
: spillover with EB2I. Hopefully EB1 demand is not as high as last year? So
: all the vertical spillover can go to EB2 and push PD to later 2006.
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