D****o
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microcare (care) 于 (Tue Apr 5 23:54:10 2011, 美东) 提到:
和治疗
真是超级无敌非常之痛苦的日子
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gejkl (gejkl) 于 (Tue Apr 5 23:56:00 2011, 美东) 提到:
喝美国产蜂蜜，每天坚持喝，能不出门就不出门，用AIR PRUIFIER要TRUE HEPA，白天
真要出门就吃CLARITY-D，本人过敏症状已经完全消失
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foolsgarden8 (小手) 于 (Wed Apr 6 02:07:04 2011, 美东) 提到:
OPC-3好像真有用，我吃了4个月，明显比去年同期好多了
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singa (我是中国人) 于 (Wed Apr 6 10:03:10 2011, 美东) 提到:
本人从来不过敏
多跑步就好了
一哥
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gejkl (gejkl) 于 (Thu Apr 7 06:39:49 2011, 美东) 提到:
别那么自信，EVERY DOG HAS HIS DAY，我来了十年都不过敏，最后还不一样，连续强
烈过敏三年，跑步也不管用，我一边过敏一边在花下跑步，照样还是一把鼻涕一把泪。 |
g*2
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D****o
发帖数: 12808 | 3 看来俺做合集还是有用的啊，吸引正宗大夫解答老大难的问题
【在 g*2 的大作中提到】
: 看看这个在寻医问药版的讨论：
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Medicine/31204241.html
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T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 4 这个说的正确：
发信人: gg2 (Allison), 信区: Medicine
标 题: Re: 请问一下有关花粉过敏和OPC-3
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 14 12:39:50 2011, 美东)
就是一些从植物里提炼出来的抗氧化剂，维生素和纤维素。 年纪轻轻，多吃水果蔬菜,
多运动就好了。有的时候吃这些supplement就是安慰剂的效果。 年纪大的人有高血脂
等血管危险因素的倒是可以试试。
花粉过敏主要是免疫反应过度（不是减弱),产生IgE (免疫球蛋白E),IgE互相交连， 促
进肥大细胞释放出组胺（histamine), 引起过敏的表现。 治疗用抗组胺（
antihitamine, eg Claritin) 或anti-IgE抗体。
另外类似的还有自身免役病， 也是免疫反应过度， 不是免疫力差。 |
T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 5 最新过敏假说，就是生活环境太干净TH-1不活跃，造成TH-2过度兴奋。看样子真的要投
入到野外运动的洪流中去。。。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergy
Hygiene hypothesis
Allergic diseases are caused by inappropriate immunological responses to
harmless antigens driven by a TH2-mediated immune response. Many bacteria
and viruses elicit a TH1-mediated immune response, which down-regulates TH2
responses. The first proposed mechanism of action of the hygiene hypothesis
stated that insufficient stimulation of the TH1 arm of the immune system
lead to an overactive TH2 arm, which in turn led to allergic disease.[29] In
other words, individuals living in too sterile an environment are not
exposed to enough pathogens to keep the immune system busy. Since our bodies
evolved to deal with a certain level of such pathogens, when it is not
exposed to this level, the immune system will attack harmless antigens and
thus normally benign microbial objects—like pollen—will trigger an immune
response.[30]
The hygiene hypothesis was developed to explain the observation that hay
fever and eczema, both allergic diseases, were less common in children from
larger families, which were presumably exposed to more infectious agents
through their siblings, than in children from families with only one child.
The hygiene hypothesis has been extensively investigated by immunologists
and epidemiologists and has become an important theoretical framework for
the study of allergic disorders. It is used to explain the increase in
allergic diseases that has been seen since industrialization, and the higher
incidence of allergic diseases in more developed countries. The hygiene
hypothesis has now expanded to include exposure to symbiotic bacteria and
parasites as important modulators of immune system development, along with
infectious agents.
Epidemiological data support the hygiene hypothesis. Studies have shown that
various immunological and autoimmune diseases are much less common in the
developing world than the industrialized world and that immigrants to the
industrialized world from the developing world increasingly develop
immunological disorders in relation to the length of time since arrival in
the industrialized world.[31] Longitudinal studies in the third world
demonstrate an increase in immunological disorders as a country grows more
affluent and, presumably, cleaner.[32] The use of antibiotics in the first
year of life has been linked to asthma and other allergic diseases.[33] The
use of antibacterial cleaning products has also been associated with higher
incidence of asthma, as has birth by Caesarean section rather than vaginal
birth.[34][35] |
d*i
发帖数: 9453 | 6 这个我来打击一下，我成天野外生活的，照过敏不误
TH2
hypothesis
In
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 最新过敏假说，就是生活环境太干净TH-1不活跃，造成TH-2过度兴奋。看样子真的要投
: 入到野外运动的洪流中去。。。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergy
: Hygiene hypothesis
: Allergic diseases are caused by inappropriate immunological responses to
: harmless antigens driven by a TH2-mediated immune response. Many bacteria
: and viruses elicit a TH1-mediated immune response, which down-regulates TH2
: responses. The first proposed mechanism of action of the hygiene hypothesis
: stated that insufficient stimulation of the TH1 arm of the immune system
: lead to an overactive TH2 arm, which in turn led to allergic disease.[29] In
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g*2
发帖数: 658 | 7 我也一直这么想Th1和Th2 imbalance may play a role。美国的疫苗接种普遍，生活环
境也干净，所以过敏和自身免疫病相对多些。 但因为自身免役病和感染trigger可能有
关系，所以Th1和Th2 imbalance不能完全解释。
TH2
hypothesis
In
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 最新过敏假说，就是生活环境太干净TH-1不活跃，造成TH-2过度兴奋。看样子真的要投
: 入到野外运动的洪流中去。。。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergy
: Hygiene hypothesis
: Allergic diseases are caused by inappropriate immunological responses to
: harmless antigens driven by a TH2-mediated immune response. Many bacteria
: and viruses elicit a TH1-mediated immune response, which down-regulates TH2
: responses. The first proposed mechanism of action of the hygiene hypothesis
: stated that insufficient stimulation of the TH1 arm of the immune system
: lead to an overactive TH2 arm, which in turn led to allergic disease.[29] In
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g*2
发帖数: 658 | 8 要去比较脏的环境，野外生活风和日丽，空气好着呢。
很多病的发病机理多元性，有遗传易感，感染，饮食等
【在 d*i 的大作中提到】
: 这个我来打击一下，我成天野外生活的，照过敏不误
:
: TH2
: hypothesis
: In
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T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 9 刚升起的希望小火苗又被无情的浇灭了。。。
【在 d*i 的大作中提到】
: 这个我来打击一下，我成天野外生活的，照过敏不误
:
: TH2
: hypothesis
: In
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T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 10 那好，那就经常回国，呵呵
【在 g*2 的大作中提到】
: 要去比较脏的环境，野外生活风和日丽，空气好着呢。
: 很多病的发病机理多元性，有遗传易感，感染，饮食等
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z********0
发帖数: 9013 | 11 哈哈，会不会你去的野外还是太干净了？ 多去几趟孟买，搬家落而啥的，估计就不过
敏了。。。
【在 d*i 的大作中提到】
: 这个我来打击一下，我成天野外生活的，照过敏不误
:
: TH2
: hypothesis
: In
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m***r
发帖数: 133 | 12 这个是真的，第三世界的人很少有过敏的。
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 那好，那就经常回国，呵呵
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