d******e 发帖数: 7844 | 1 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 2 哪块儿肉?别用盐腌,越腌肉越干。一定要腌的话,用湿料。
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。 : 美国人做这玩意的时候都放什么东西?
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d******e 发帖数: 7844 | 3 盐不多方就好了。
我也没腌多久。
刚刚google了一下,发现差在小茴香上,这是啥玩意?
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哪块儿肉?别用盐腌,越腌肉越干。一定要腌的话,用湿料。
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j*********g 发帖数: 3826 | 4 盐和胡椒稍微撒一点在表面腌一会可以把表面收干,防止汁水渗出。
用湿料腌的话,在上锅煎或者下烤箱之前一定要把表面吸干,不然也会漏汁。
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。 : 美国人做这玩意的时候都放什么东西?
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 5 if you use prime grade steak, just peppers and salt, maybe a bit sugar. Let
peppers and salt sink in for 4 hours at least.
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。 : 美国人做这玩意的时候都放什么东西?
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 6 this isn't true.
some people actualy recommend the more salt the better. of course you don't
want it to be salty. but salt is very necessary to make steak taste good.
Unless your steak is poor grade, salt wouldn't make it dry.
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 哪块儿肉?别用盐腌,越腌肉越干。一定要腌的话,用湿料。
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 7 Don't forget to use fork to make little holes before you spread salt and
peppers, holes will make it easy for salt and pepper to sink in.
Let
【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : if you use prime grade steak, just peppers and salt, maybe a bit sugar. Let : peppers and salt sink in for 4 hours at least.
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x******t 发帖数: 3911 | 8 Do not marinade. Just sprinkle some salt and pepper when ready to eat. 原
汁原味! |
y**********6 发帖数: 624 | 9 就盐和黑胡椒粉,最后用蘑菇汤罐头加点水加点胡椒粉做汁水及 |
l*****i 发帖数: 20533 | 10 这得自己先去外面西餐店吃一吃,了解清楚传说中的烤牛排到底啥样,然后才可能自己
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 11 I'm against making any kind of hole in a good cut of steak prior to eating.
【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Don't forget to use fork to make little holes before you spread salt and : peppers, holes will make it easy for salt and pepper to sink in. : : Let
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d******e 发帖数: 7844 | 12 Bingo!!我估计就是差最后这个汁水
【在 y**********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 就盐和黑胡椒粉,最后用蘑菇汤罐头加点水加点胡椒粉做汁水及
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 13 I don't know if you have grilled a steak before, but this is how it's done.
Salting is the most important process to prepare a steak, punching holes
will make it happen sooner.
A prime steak made in my way tastes just like how a steak from famous steak
house tastes.
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I'm against making any kind of hole in a good cut of steak prior to eating.
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 14 I've grilled many steaks, and I'm a strong believer that salting a steak
early will draw moisture out of the steak, making it dry. Poking holes
in a steak prior to cooking will only speed up this process - unless it
is a lesser cut of meat, in which case poking many small holes in the
meat can break up the connective tissues, and thus tenderizing it.
.
steak
【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I don't know if you have grilled a steak before, but this is how it's done. : Salting is the most important process to prepare a steak, punching holes : will make it happen sooner. : A prime steak made in my way tastes just like how a steak from famous steak : house tastes.
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C*********a 发帖数: 3743 | 15 butter?
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。 : 美国人做这玩意的时候都放什么东西?
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 16 then I have to say either you don't know how to grill a steak or you use low
grade steak.
Just google "grill steak", no matter how the recipes change by personal
reference, salt and pepper are always there, never left out.
I just can't imagine how a steak will taste without salt.
Go to ruth chris steak house and taste how a real good steak should taste
like.
Most of juice in steak come from their fat texture, which will not be
affected by salt. That's why a prime steak has many fat linings insid
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I've grilled many steaks, and I'm a strong believer that salting a steak : early will draw moisture out of the steak, making it dry. Poking holes : in a steak prior to cooking will only speed up this process - unless it : is a lesser cut of meat, in which case poking many small holes in the : meat can break up the connective tissues, and thus tenderizing it. : : . : steak
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f******y 发帖数: 696 | 17 从味道上来说的话,牛排能有什么味……无非就是食材的好坏罢了
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。 : 美国人做这玩意的时候都放什么东西?
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f******y 发帖数: 696 | 18 只是美国人烤牛排喜欢age而已,我觉得这属于糟蹋好牛肉
而且age也不是说拿盐和胡椒腌着就行
low
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【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : then I have to say either you don't know how to grill a steak or you use low : grade steak. : Just google "grill steak", no matter how the recipes change by personal : reference, salt and pepper are always there, never left out. : I just can't imagine how a steak will taste without salt. : Go to ruth chris steak house and taste how a real good steak should taste : like. : Most of juice in steak come from their fat texture, which will not be : affected by salt. That's why a prime steak has many fat linings insid
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 19 I didn't say not to salt or pepper the steak, I said not to salt it prior
to cooking, especially not to salt it four hours prior. Salt and pepper
is added either during or after cooking. I've cooked ribeyes, tenderloins,
NY strips, and T-bones/porterhouses, none needed salting prior to grilling.
low
,
【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : then I have to say either you don't know how to grill a steak or you use low : grade steak. : Just google "grill steak", no matter how the recipes change by personal : reference, salt and pepper are always there, never left out. : I just can't imagine how a steak will taste without salt. : Go to ruth chris steak house and taste how a real good steak should taste : like. : Most of juice in steak come from their fat texture, which will not be : affected by salt. That's why a prime steak has many fat linings insid
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 20 then I bet you get no taste at all in your steak...
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I didn't say not to salt or pepper the steak, I said not to salt it prior : to cooking, especially not to salt it four hours prior. Salt and pepper : is added either during or after cooking. I've cooked ribeyes, tenderloins, : NY strips, and T-bones/porterhouses, none needed salting prior to grilling. : : low : ,
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 21 Did you actually try to go to a good steak house and taste it?
【在 f******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只是美国人烤牛排喜欢age而已,我觉得这属于糟蹋好牛肉 : 而且age也不是说拿盐和胡椒腌着就行 : : low : ,
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 22 I was so interested in grilled steak that I have researched a lot, both
online recipe and tv.
I watched food chanel to see how americans cook steaks.
There was one hell competition of grilled steaks. all the participants have
marinated the steaks for at least 3-4 hours, they use usda choice ribeye.
Besides salt and peppers, some add beers, some add other secrete ingredients
. but all of them agreed one thing, you need to have steak marinated for at
least hours to have a great taste.
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I didn't say not to salt or pepper the steak, I said not to salt it prior : to cooking, especially not to salt it four hours prior. Salt and pepper : is added either during or after cooking. I've cooked ribeyes, tenderloins, : NY strips, and T-bones/porterhouses, none needed salting prior to grilling. : : low : ,
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a*******e 发帖数: 12169 | 23 嫌味道不够,烤好了沾steak sauce
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。 : 美国人做这玩意的时候都放什么东西?
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 24 Then you would have bet wrong.
【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : then I bet you get no taste at all in your steak...
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 25 I guess it is like the Bud vs Miller debate, it all comes down to personal
preference and taste.
have
ingredients
at
【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I was so interested in grilled steak that I have researched a lot, both : online recipe and tv. : I watched food chanel to see how americans cook steaks. : There was one hell competition of grilled steaks. all the participants have : marinated the steaks for at least 3-4 hours, they use usda choice ribeye. : Besides salt and peppers, some add beers, some add other secrete ingredients : . but all of them agreed one thing, you need to have steak marinated for at : least hours to have a great taste.
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 26 the taste is only on surface, not inside. that's not very satisfying, in my
standard
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Then you would have bet wrong.
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q**u 发帖数: 12289 | 27 I understand your argument. Every man is the master of his own steak. Hehe.
my
【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : the taste is only on surface, not inside. that's not very satisfying, in my : standard
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 28 I still insist that the grade of your steak isn't good enough. You won't get
a dry problem with PRIME steak for sure.
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I guess it is like the Bud vs Miller debate, it all comes down to personal : preference and taste. : : have : ingredients : at
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f******y 发帖数: 696 | 29 我吃过的好牛排店未免太多了
你说的ruth chris就去过好多次,好吃是好吃,但还是糟蹋好牛肉。
我喜欢阿根廷的餐馆烤牛排的方式。
【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Did you actually try to go to a good steak house and taste it?
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w**j 发帖数: 2046 | 30 在上面刷一层植物油。烤完后可以用纸把油吸干,如果不喜欢的话。
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。 : 美国人做这玩意的时候都放什么东西?
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s******s 发帖数: 13035 | 31 一般就可以了.
然后用烤出来的汁做一个sauce, 原味的吃腻了就沾汁吃.
我一般是多家点胡椒, 然后butter, 蘑菇, 少量糖, 不够
厚的话加点bbq sauce
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。 : 美国人做这玩意的时候都放什么东西?
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s****u 发帖数: 375 | 32 use rosemary or thyme, taste great on steak |
j****1 发帖数: 15497 | 33 Good cut beef(rib eye is more fat than others ), and it must be fresh.
Good wok
High quality salt and pepper, chili flake(if you like spicy food)
a piece of Butter melt in the wok (or you can use olive oil)
put meat in w/o seasoning
med/low heat, control the temperature with a thermometer.
depend on what you like, the temperature is different also.
flip over meat only once, put seasonings on the cooked side first, the other
side you can add later.
Good luck!
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t******i 发帖数: 6123 | 34 好的牛排就是只用盐和胡椒就够了,主要是吃牛排本身的味道
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只用黑胡椒和盐腌制,味道似乎差了点什么。 : 美国人做这玩意的时候都放什么东西?
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s**********d 发帖数: 36899 | 35 你买的牛排都是age过了的。
aging和盐没有任何关系。
【在 f******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 只是美国人烤牛排喜欢age而已,我觉得这属于糟蹋好牛肉 : 而且age也不是说拿盐和胡椒腌着就行 : : low : ,
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j*********g 发帖数: 3826 | 36 好像外面店里都是wet age.
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你买的牛排都是age过了的。 : aging和盐没有任何关系。
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s**********d 发帖数: 36899 | 37
牛排好吃一定是age过了的。
普通店里卖的没有fresh的。
【在 j****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Good cut beef(rib eye is more fat than others ), and it must be fresh. : Good wok : High quality salt and pepper, chili flake(if you like spicy food) : a piece of Butter melt in the wok (or you can use olive oil) : put meat in w/o seasoning : med/low heat, control the temperature with a thermometer. : depend on what you like, the temperature is different also. : flip over meat only once, put seasonings on the cooked side first, the other : side you can add later. : Good luck!
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s**********d 发帖数: 36899 | 38 是。屠宰场不用dry age因为重量会减很多。
有的人买回来再dry age一次。
【在 j*********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好像外面店里都是wet age.
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t*n 发帖数: 14458 | 39 不是
店里大多数都没age过
age过的会标上
比一般还贵好多
你买的牛排都是age过了的。
aging和盐没有任何关系。
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你买的牛排都是age过了的。 : aging和盐没有任何关系。
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j*********g 发帖数: 3826 | 40 那种用密封包装的可以看做已经wet age过了吧?
【在 t*n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不是 : 店里大多数都没age过 : age过的会标上 : 比一般还贵好多 : : 你买的牛排都是age过了的。 : aging和盐没有任何关系。
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g********9 发帖数: 560 | 41 只有盐和胡椒已经很好吃了,但牛肉一定要够好,美国超市里10刀/磅左右的牛肉才会好吃。我试过14.99/磅的牛肉和6/磅的牛肉,真得不一样。 |
B*D 发帖数: 481 | 42 给大伙推荐个烤牛排的调料吧,偶自从认识了它就没去餐馆吃牛排的愿望了。
Durkee的Grill Creation Steak Dust. |
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k*1 发帖数: 723 | 44 可以试试garlic steak marinade |
s**********d 发帖数: 36899 | 45
一般店里都是age过的,没有例外。而且几乎都是wet age。
【在 j*********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那种用密封包装的可以看做已经wet age过了吧?
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n****7 发帖数: 348 | 46 每个人都有自己的口味,做法自然不一样。你这做法也只是能满足一部分人的口味,仅
此而已。别弄得自己和个专家似的上来就否定别人不会做牛排。
low
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【在 r******m 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : then I have to say either you don't know how to grill a steak or you use low : grade steak. : Just google "grill steak", no matter how the recipes change by personal : reference, salt and pepper are always there, never left out. : I just can't imagine how a steak will taste without salt. : Go to ruth chris steak house and taste how a real good steak should taste : like. : Most of juice in steak come from their fat texture, which will not be : affected by salt. That's why a prime steak has many fat linings insid
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r******m 发帖数: 369 | 47 how does your post add any value to this thread? Not at all.
You are the one BS here
【在 n****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 每个人都有自己的口味,做法自然不一样。你这做法也只是能满足一部分人的口味,仅 : 此而已。别弄得自己和个专家似的上来就否定别人不会做牛排。 : : low : ,
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