q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 1 I met a guy who did research on the sweet taste receptor by accident today,
and saw his data showing that artifical sweetener did increase insulin
secretion in vitro. Now I feel comfortable to accept your idea. You are
right at that point. |
s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 2 赞能曲能伸的好晴儿 ～～～
A++ 你不趁机要挟点什么？
,
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: I met a guy who did research on the sweet taste receptor by accident today,
: and saw his data showing that artifical sweetener did increase insulin
: secretion in vitro. Now I feel comfortable to accept your idea. You are
: right at that point.
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q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 3 Well, not 能曲能伸. Science is science. If I was wrong, accept it and
correct it. I believe the theory because it has experimental support, not
because "doctors told us...". If A++ showed me the paper rather than a
dialog without reference, I would believe him earlier. Anyway, he is right :)
【在 s******0 的大作中提到】
: 赞能曲能伸的好晴儿 ～～～
: A++ 你不趁机要挟点什么？
:
: ,
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w*********l
发帖数: 5144 | 4 why only insulin? huamn being complicated
,
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: I met a guy who did research on the sweet taste receptor by accident today,
: and saw his data showing that artifical sweetener did increase insulin
: secretion in vitro. Now I feel comfortable to accept your idea. You are
: right at that point.
|
A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 5 LOL!
I wonder how he did the study in vitro. But if his study has not been
published and accepted, I still could be wrong, right?
The point is not whether I am right or wrong. All I know is that digestion
is a complicated process which started as early as seeing the food, smelling
the food and chewing the food! For example, at lunch time, when you get
close to 食堂， you start to feel more hungary when you smells the food, or
seeing someone holding the food coming out. At that moment, your GI system
starts to prepare for the incoming food.
My real point is: No cheat. Do not cheat on your body by drinking fake
beverage, cheat on your significant others, your friend, etc. Or you get the
punishment.
This is why I hate the 马甲 so much. lol.
,
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: I met a guy who did research on the sweet taste receptor by accident today,
: and saw his data showing that artifical sweetener did increase insulin
: secretion in vitro. Now I feel comfortable to accept your idea. You are
: right at that point.
|
s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 6 HI
马甲 is not cheating !
smelling
or
system
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: LOL!
: I wonder how he did the study in vitro. But if his study has not been
: published and accepted, I still could be wrong, right?
: The point is not whether I am right or wrong. All I know is that digestion
: is a complicated process which started as early as seeing the food, smelling
: the food and chewing the food! For example, at lunch time, when you get
: close to 食堂， you start to feel more hungary when you smells the food, or
: seeing someone holding the food coming out. At that moment, your GI system
: starts to prepare for the incoming food.
: My real point is: No cheat. Do not cheat on your body by drinking fake
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v******s
发帖数: 6949 | 7 马甲不是cheat
顶多是化个不同风格的妆。
digestion
smelling
get
food, or
system
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: LOL!
: I wonder how he did the study in vitro. But if his study has not been
: published and accepted, I still could be wrong, right?
: The point is not whether I am right or wrong. All I know is that digestion
: is a complicated process which started as early as seeing the food, smelling
: the food and chewing the food! For example, at lunch time, when you get
: close to 食堂， you start to feel more hungary when you smells the food, or
: seeing someone holding the food coming out. At that moment, your GI system
: starts to prepare for the incoming food.
: My real point is: No cheat. Do not cheat on your body by drinking fake
|
m****t
发帖数: 703 | |
I*******t
发帖数: 7652 | 9 赞科学钻研
赞not doctor told us
赞智慧与美貌并重
赞A++的creative idea
:)
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: Well, not 能曲能伸. Science is science. If I was wrong, accept it and
: correct it. I believe the theory because it has experimental support, not
: because "doctors told us...". If A++ showed me the paper rather than a
: dialog without reference, I would believe him earlier. Anyway, he is right :)
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 10 OK, let's do some science.. Why don't we cooperate for a Nobel prize? I
want 10% and you have 50%. BZs get the rest.
:)
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: Well, not 能曲能伸. Science is science. If I was wrong, accept it and
: correct it. I believe the theory because it has experimental support, not
: because "doctors told us...". If A++ showed me the paper rather than a
: dialog without reference, I would believe him earlier. Anyway, he is right :)
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 11 Chances favor prepared mind. lol.
【在 I*******t 的大作中提到】
: 赞科学钻研
: 赞not doctor told us
: 赞智慧与美貌并重
: 赞A++的creative idea
:
: :)
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q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 12 Well, you can assume or imagine how GI works, but idea is idea; evidence is
evidence; fact is fact. Those guys treated pancreatic beta cells with three
common commercial sweeteners and dectected higher insulin secretion in the
media. The data sounded acceptable to me, and he explained the discovery of
sweet taste receptor which I had never heard of, but was interesting.
I was just wondering why there were no in vivo data since the experiment
should not be difficult to carry out. Then I realize it wouldn't get funded
easily, and probably no one would like to face the result, either :)
smelling
system
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: LOL!
: I wonder how he did the study in vitro. But if his study has not been
: published and accepted, I still could be wrong, right?
: The point is not whether I am right or wrong. All I know is that digestion
: is a complicated process which started as early as seeing the food, smelling
: the food and chewing the food! For example, at lunch time, when you get
: close to 食堂， you start to feel more hungary when you smells the food, or
: seeing someone holding the food coming out. At that moment, your GI system
: starts to prepare for the incoming food.
: My real point is: No cheat. Do not cheat on your body by drinking fake
|
w*********l
发帖数: 5144 | 13 太专业. 你学啥的?
is
three
of
funded
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: Well, you can assume or imagine how GI works, but idea is idea; evidence is
: evidence; fact is fact. Those guys treated pancreatic beta cells with three
: common commercial sweeteners and dectected higher insulin secretion in the
: media. The data sounded acceptable to me, and he explained the discovery of
: sweet taste receptor which I had never heard of, but was interesting.
: I was just wondering why there were no in vivo data since the experiment
: should not be difficult to carry out. Then I realize it wouldn't get funded
: easily, and probably no one would like to face the result, either :)
:
: smelling
|
q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 14 DaBaoZi for the answer, haha.
【在 w*********l 的大作中提到】
: 太专业. 你学啥的?
:
: is
: three
: of
: funded
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 15 If he can prove that the sweet receptors found in taste buds also exist in
beta cells, his in vitro study will be publishable. It is easy by doing a
receptor binding study. He also can clone the sweet receptors in beta cells.
Industry will love to see the result. This could lead to a potential drug
development for Diabetes treatment: a multimillion dollar plan.
No worry for in vivo study by then.
Nobel would love to see his award goes to the study which lead to a
revolutionary treatment for Diabetes.
lol.
is
three
of
funded
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: Well, you can assume or imagine how GI works, but idea is idea; evidence is
: evidence; fact is fact. Those guys treated pancreatic beta cells with three
: common commercial sweeteners and dectected higher insulin secretion in the
: media. The data sounded acceptable to me, and he explained the discovery of
: sweet taste receptor which I had never heard of, but was interesting.
: I was just wondering why there were no in vivo data since the experiment
: should not be difficult to carry out. Then I realize it wouldn't get funded
: easily, and probably no one would like to face the result, either :)
:
: smelling
|
q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 16 If he can prove that the sweet receptors found in taste buds also exist in
beta cells |
A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 17 Yeah, find the article in 2009.
Man, I should not give up research for physican. I miss research now.
It is hard to measure insulin level induced by sweetener in vivo since the
insulin secretion is dominated by GLUT mediated response to glucose.
You may have to use knockout mice.
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: If he can prove that the sweet receptors found in taste buds also exist in
: beta cells
|
r****n
发帖数: 7223 | 18 还为减肥那事儿啊
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, find the article in 2009.
: Man, I should not give up research for physican. I miss research now.
: It is hard to measure insulin level induced by sweetener in vivo since the
: insulin secretion is dominated by GLUT mediated response to glucose.
: You may have to use knockout mice.
|
s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 19 要不我俩聊聊别的？
木木你最近喜欢喝什么？
【在 r****n 的大作中提到】
: 还为减肥那事儿啊
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r****n
发帖数: 7223 | 20 咖啡
白水
你养宠物吗?
【在 s******0 的大作中提到】
: 要不我俩聊聊别的？
: 木木你最近喜欢喝什么？
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s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 21 白水实在太难喝了， 一点味道都没有
【在 s******0 的大作中提到】
: 要不我俩聊聊别的？
: 木木你最近喜欢喝什么？
|
r****n
发帖数: 7223 | 22 你喝啥？
【在 s******0 的大作中提到】
: 白水实在太难喝了， 一点味道都没有
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s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 23 coke， sprite， 柚子蜜
【在 r****n 的大作中提到】
: 你喝啥？
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s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 24 你呢？
【在 r****n 的大作中提到】
: 你喝啥？
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r****n
发帖数: 7223 | 25 coke，sprite的糖分太多了
不过，柚子蜜倒是非常健康，排毒的
【在 s******0 的大作中提到】
: coke， sprite， 柚子蜜
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s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 26 柚子好像吃多或喝多也不太好 。。。。 忘记哪篇研究说的
自己挤的柠檬好像不够甜， 还是不好喝
【在 r****n 的大作中提到】
: coke，sprite的糖分太多了
: 不过，柚子蜜倒是非常健康，排毒的
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 27 为得奖那事。
【在 r****n 的大作中提到】
: 还为减肥那事儿啊
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s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 28 什么奖？ nobel？
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: 为得奖那事。
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | |
s******0
发帖数: 13782 | |
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q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 31 Let's call it an end~ haha
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Yeah, find the article in 2009.
: Man, I should not give up research for physican. I miss research now.
: It is hard to measure insulin level induced by sweetener in vivo since the
: insulin secretion is dominated by GLUT mediated response to glucose.
: You may have to use knockout mice.
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 32 Not yet.
If sweetener does stimulate insulin secretion, we may develop a strong
sweetener for Diabetes.
That way, Diabetic patient can drink diet Coke daily without taking their
medications.
Coke Industry will love to see that. Their Logo will be: Drink Diet Coke,
stay away from Diabetes.
You know Nitric Oxide finding leads to Viagra invention and Nobel prize. No
Viagra, No nobel, right?
Sweet receptor finding will not get any prize until it leads to a
revolutionary treatment for Diabetes.
If you find the compound, you will get the Nobel prize. I am dead serious.
Just do not forget my 10%.
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: Let's call it an end~ haha
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s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 33 今天的版标怎么样？
No
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Not yet.
: If sweetener does stimulate insulin secretion, we may develop a strong
: sweetener for Diabetes.
: That way, Diabetic patient can drink diet Coke daily without taking their
: medications.
: Coke Industry will love to see that. Their Logo will be: Drink Diet Coke,
: stay away from Diabetes.
: You know Nitric Oxide finding leads to Viagra invention and Nobel prize. No
: Viagra, No nobel, right?
: Sweet receptor finding will not get any prize until it leads to a
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 34 Is that you? Sweet.
Now I feel an insulin surge.
LOL.
【在 s******0 的大作中提到】
: 今天的版标怎么样？
:
: No
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s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 35 不是
是伊卡干的
问她
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Is that you? Sweet.
: Now I feel an insulin surge.
: LOL.
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q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 36 。。。
No
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Not yet.
: If sweetener does stimulate insulin secretion, we may develop a strong
: sweetener for Diabetes.
: That way, Diabetic patient can drink diet Coke daily without taking their
: medications.
: Coke Industry will love to see that. Their Logo will be: Drink Diet Coke,
: stay away from Diabetes.
: You know Nitric Oxide finding leads to Viagra invention and Nobel prize. No
: Viagra, No nobel, right?
: Sweet receptor finding will not get any prize until it leads to a
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q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 37 I like the previous one...
【在 s******0 的大作中提到】
: 今天的版标怎么样？
:
: No
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 38 Elaborate?
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: 。。。
:
: No
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l********3
发帖数: 17249 | |
q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 40 我都无语了，还Elaborate。。。A哥，告一段落吧，隔壁有奔的，你不快去看就没了~
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Elaborate?
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E*****n
发帖数: 1565 | 41 已经没啦~
【在 q******r 的大作中提到】
: 我都无语了，还Elaborate。。。A哥，告一段落吧，隔壁有奔的，你不快去看就没了~
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q******r
发帖数: 6542 | 42 你动作真快，也不等版主们冒泡就撤。
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
: 已经没啦~
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s******0
发帖数: 13782 | 43 那包子发不出去了
【在 E*****n 的大作中提到】
: 已经没啦~
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A*******s
发帖数: 9638 | 44 Check this up and let your friend know. I could not read french.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21382326
Not yet.
If sweetener does stimulate insulin secretion, we may develop a strong
sweetener for Diabetes.
That way, Diabetic patient can drink diet Coke daily without taking their
medications.
Coke Industry will love to see that. Their Logo will be: Drink Diet Coke,
stay away from Diabetes.
You know Nitric Oxide finding leads to Viagra invention and Nobel prize. No
Viagra, No nobel, right?
Sweet receptor finding will not get any prize until it leads to a
revolutionary treatment for Diabetes.
If you find the compound, you will get the Nobel prize. I am dead serious.
Just do not forget my 10%.
【在 A*******s 的大作中提到】
: Not yet.
: If sweetener does stimulate insulin secretion, we may develop a strong
: sweetener for Diabetes.
: That way, Diabetic patient can drink diet Coke daily without taking their
: medications.
: Coke Industry will love to see that. Their Logo will be: Drink Diet Coke,
: stay away from Diabetes.
: You know Nitric Oxide finding leads to Viagra invention and Nobel prize. No
: Viagra, No nobel, right?
: Sweet receptor finding will not get any prize until it leads to a
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