A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 1 over the weekend, played two runs
one run with 37 putts, another is 38 putts, which is my avg. putt number.
but my buddies were saying that is too much, since one is 31 the other is 30
, and they were shooting low 80s for my different day platmate.
so i am guessing, i have to reduce my putts to get to low 80s.
whats your avg putt number? and how you get there? | j*****j
发帖数: 290 | 2 that is very good putts number. that is what Par score should be. just need
to improve approaching shot and tee shot. if you can hit ball 7 feet or less
to the pin, you have chance to reduce putt.
i will be very happy if i only have two putts for distance more than 5 feet.
but you know it is hard to hit ball 5 feet or less to the pin.
30
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: over the weekend, played two runs
: one run with 37 putts, another is 38 putts, which is my avg. putt number.
: but my buddies were saying that is too much, since one is 31 the other is 30
: , and they were shooting low 80s for my different day platmate.
: so i am guessing, i have to reduce my putts to get to low 80s.
: whats your avg putt number? and how you get there?
| j*****j
发帖数: 290 | 3 the other thing, that is why chip hsot is so important
need
less
feet.
【在 j*****j 的大作中提到】
: that is very good putts number. that is what Par score should be. just need
: to improve approaching shot and tee shot. if you can hit ball 7 feet or less
: to the pin, you have chance to reduce putt.
: i will be very happy if i only have two putts for distance more than 5 feet.
: but you know it is hard to hit ball 5 feet or less to the pin.
:
: 30
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 4 depends on the course and green set up. if there are a lot of breaking putt,
low 2.x is very good.
if it's on a course with mild green slopes and you play there often and
familiar with the greens, then 2.1 is average for mid handicappers. but
still good for 20+ handicappers. my best is 2.3x...
for mid/high handicappers, GIR is usually than <50%. have to rely on good
chip/pitch. if you get can more up_and_downs than 3 putts a round, then
average high 1.x is in shape.
i can remember almost all m
【在 j*****j 的大作中提到】
: that is very good putts number. that is what Par score should be. just need
: to improve approaching shot and tee shot. if you can hit ball 7 feet or less
: to the pin, you have chance to reduce putt.
: i will be very happy if i only have two putts for distance more than 5 feet.
: but you know it is hard to hit ball 5 feet or less to the pin.
:
: 30
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 5 去附近的一个practice green 做了一个实验
把球随机的任在fairway like grass and rough like grass
pitch from 5 - 30 yards from fringe of green
这个practice green 有中等坡度， 6 holes are cut.
play 7 holes, one hole twice.
2 putts for 6 holes, 包括一个７feet breaking putt lip out.
up and down for 1 hole, which is the farthest about 30 yards from rough and
back pin location
so that is 13/7 = 1.86 putts/hole, far better than my course play best
不知是没有压力还是很熟悉那片果领的缘故， 回想起来以前球场打球太匆匆了， 切
劈推球果领读的很马虎啊。 当然也有可能最近把 putting stroke 改进了一下,或者很 | A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 6 played back 9 at boundary oaks this morning.
started with 2 par4, up and down save par, and follow with 3 GIR, but all 3
end up with 3 putts each. 6th hole par4, 3 on 3 putt, 7th par4 4 on 1 putt,
8th par3 another up and down save par, 9th par5 5 on 1 putt.
17 putts, 43 for 9 hole
other than 6th hole mistake, the rest i was feeling very good. but score is
still just ok.
and seems the problems are all over the place.
30
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: over the weekend, played two runs
: one run with 37 putts, another is 38 putts, which is my avg. putt number.
: but my buddies were saying that is too much, since one is 31 the other is 30
: , and they were shooting low 80s for my different day platmate.
: so i am guessing, i have to reduce my putts to get to low 80s.
: whats your avg putt number? and how you get there?
| u******m
发帖数: 307 | 7 When you are GIR, those 3 putts kill your score. GIR usually means far from
the pin for mid/high capper. The key here is distance control of the first
putt and green reading. You have to be aggresive within control, make sure
it is strong enough to hole it but you can make the return putt if you miss.
3
,
is
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: played back 9 at boundary oaks this morning.
: started with 2 par4, up and down save par, and follow with 3 GIR, but all 3
: end up with 3 putts each. 6th hole par4, 3 on 3 putt, 7th par4 4 on 1 putt,
: 8th par3 another up and down save par, 9th par5 5 on 1 putt.
: 17 putts, 43 for 9 hole
: other than 6th hole mistake, the rest i was feeling very good. but score is
: still just ok.
: and seems the problems are all over the place.
:
: 30
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 8 his score is not bad at all, back nine is over 3400yard from blue.
it seems the more strokes to get on green, the fewer putt he needed.
some of those green are huge and two tiers. not sure how long first butt is
for his 3putts.
if from 40-60 ft away from pin, 3 putts is not too bad(sometimes you have
even to accpet 4putts if miss read the slope). 我想我们平时长推(40 - 60feet
) 还是练的少.
长推和中短推的feeling 还是很不一样
50feet putt to within 10feet, no bad. but then you have to make 10feeter. we
all know that we lip
【在 u******m 的大作中提到】
: When you are GIR, those 3 putts kill your score. GIR usually means far from
: the pin for mid/high capper. The key here is distance control of the first
: putt and green reading. You have to be aggresive within control, make sure
: it is strong enough to hole it but you can make the return putt if you miss.
:
: 3
: ,
: is
| A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 9 yeah, for that 3 GIR, i was just feeling lucky to get on the green.
12th 190 par3
13th 415 dogleg left par4, my approach shot was 190
14th 563 par5, my third shot was the shot of day, behind the tree, from
rough, 155 to green.
none of them is easy, but 3 bogey seem unacceptable.
is
60feet
we
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: his score is not bad at all, back nine is over 3400yard from blue.
: it seems the more strokes to get on green, the fewer putt he needed.
: some of those green are huge and two tiers. not sure how long first butt is
: for his 3putts.
: if from 40-60 ft away from pin, 3 putts is not too bad(sometimes you have
: even to accpet 4putts if miss read the slope). 我想我们平时长推(40 - 60feet
: ) 还是练的少.
: 长推和中短推的feeling 还是很不一样
: 50feet putt to within 10feet, no bad. but then you have to make 10feeter. we
: all know that we lip
| u******m
发帖数: 307 | 10 When you are not GIR, it usually means you just miss the green and around
the fringe. You can pretty much chip/pitch it close to the pin which lead to
fewer putt.
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: his score is not bad at all, back nine is over 3400yard from blue.
: it seems the more strokes to get on green, the fewer putt he needed.
: some of those green are huge and two tiers. not sure how long first butt is
: for his 3putts.
: if from 40-60 ft away from pin, 3 putts is not too bad(sometimes you have
: even to accpet 4putts if miss read the slope). 我想我们平时长推(40 - 60feet
: ) 还是练的少.
: 长推和中短推的feeling 还是很不一样
: 50feet putt to within 10feet, no bad. but then you have to make 10feeter. we
: all know that we lip
| ET
发帖数: 10701 | 11 high handicapper打球的时候，因为把球送上果岭的过程已经很费劲了。
如果后面还有人，自己这拨人不是很熟，球上了果岭一般都没太多时间思考，只能匆匆
推了了事。
所以在读果岭和长打的球场上长经验一般都不是那么有效。
比如你编程抓bug, 犯过一次错误再犯的几率会小很多；当在golf果岭上，可能你在
high handicap的时候就能常犯读果岭错误的习惯。
所以，调整自己的心态，在学习这个运动也很重要。职业的球员，在打球的过程中，注
意力很集中的。
我曾提到过打过几次us open的mark, 也65岁了吧，还问randy,问他啥时候开始读果岭
。是刚击完approach shot呢，还是走近果岭10码左右。 这个读指的是读果岭的大环境
，比如山是否在周围，水在那个位置。 果岭上排雨水的低点在哪。
and
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: 去附近的一个practice green 做了一个实验
: 把球随机的任在fairway like grass and rough like grass
: pitch from 5 - 30 yards from fringe of green
: 这个practice green 有中等坡度， 6 holes are cut.
: play 7 holes, one hole twice.
: 2 putts for 6 holes, 包括一个７feet breaking putt lip out.
: up and down for 1 hole, which is the farthest about 30 yards from rough and
: back pin location
: so that is 13/7 = 1.86 putts/hole, far better than my course play best
: 不知是没有压力还是很熟悉那片果领的缘故， 回想起来以前球场打球太匆匆了， 切
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 12 看了一下正规比赛的技术统计
in addition to "putts per round",
还用 "putts per GIR" 测量推球技术的牛逼程度
某个 pro
PUTTS PER GIR 1.583 1.833 1.667
如果是我， 肯定往 middle 2.x 去了
putts per GIR 通常高于 putts per hole,
因为有些短切／劈球打的象推球一样
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: over the weekend, played two runs
: one run with 37 putts, another is 38 putts, which is my avg. putt number.
: but my buddies were saying that is too much, since one is 31 the other is 30
: , and they were shooting low 80s for my different day platmate.
: so i am guessing, i have to reduce my putts to get to low 80s.
: whats your avg putt number? and how you get there?
| A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 13 yes,
i have a score card to keep those stats
for my pass 10 runs, from low 2.1 to high 2.8, and mostly 2.4,
with around 40% GIR in general
i think the other impact is mental when you miss your birdie or par chance.
for the same bogey hole, comparing with saving from chip/pitch plus two
putts, the GIR 3-putt bogey got much negative effect on my next hole.
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: 看了一下正规比赛的技术统计
: in addition to "putts per round",
: 还用 "putts per GIR" 测量推球技术的牛逼程度
: 某个 pro
: PUTTS PER GIR 1.583 1.833 1.667
: 如果是我， 肯定往 middle 2.x 去了
: putts per GIR 通常高于 putts per hole,
: 因为有些短切／劈球打的象推球一样
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