v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 1 finally get a 3hybrid (TM burner rescue 08, 19 degree). easier to hit
supposed distance than 3iron. but similar or slight shorter than adam hybrid
5wood (18 degree).
so i am thinking to give up 3 hybrid, and try to get a good 3wood to fill
the gap between 5wood and driver. even though adam hybrid and TM burner
rescue 09 TP still look good and feel good at store demo. burner rescue TP
is too expensive with FCT and voodoo shaft.
3wood choices:
TM burner
callaway big bertha
cleveland launcher DST | v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 2 3H or 3W? comparing apples and oranges? I thought you would need a 3 wood
for par5s. I need 3W and 2H or 3H. I don't carry a 5 wood at all.
hybrid
TP
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: finally get a 3hybrid (TM burner rescue 08, 19 degree). easier to hit
: supposed distance than 3iron. but similar or slight shorter than adam hybrid
: 5wood (18 degree).
: so i am thinking to give up 3 hybrid, and try to get a good 3wood to fill
: the gap between 5wood and driver. even though adam hybrid and TM burner
: rescue 09 TP still look good and feel good at store demo. burner rescue TP
: is too expensive with FCT and voodoo shaft.
: 3wood choices:
: TM burner
: callaway big bertha
| b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 3 I saw a used Nike 3 wood with voodoo shaft in good condition at a local
Golfgalaxy for $105. good deal?
hybrid
fill
TP
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: finally get a 3hybrid (TM burner rescue 08, 19 degree). easier to hit
: supposed distance than 3iron. but similar or slight shorter than adam hybrid
: 5wood (18 degree).
: so i am thinking to give up 3 hybrid, and try to get a good 3wood to fill
: the gap between 5wood and driver. even though adam hybrid and TM burner
: rescue 09 TP still look good and feel good at store demo. burner rescue TP
: is too expensive with FCT and voodoo shaft.
: 3wood choices:
: TM burner
: callaway big bertha
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | | v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 5 check the list of 3woods i posted.
nike dymo is a good one.
with woodoo, it is no brainer. get it and try it on range and tell me the
results. voodoo has reputation of being long, i tried titlist driver once
with voodoo. didn't see much difference tho. maybe at that time my swing
was so poor that it didn't make any difference.
i am thinking to get adams. kind of like their square head.
personally, for the 5wood i got last year, i get 240 yards carry on a good
day, graphalloy shaft.
the sha
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: I saw a used Nike 3 wood with voodoo shaft in good condition at a local
: Golfgalaxy for $105. good deal?
:
: hybrid
: fill
: TP
| p****4
发帖数: 517 | 6 You must hit hybrid really well. I use 2H to replace 5 wood.
Among all fairway woods, I like TM and Ping.
Among all hybrids, I like TM or Cobra.
hybrid
TP
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: finally get a 3hybrid (TM burner rescue 08, 19 degree). easier to hit
: supposed distance than 3iron. but similar or slight shorter than adam hybrid
: 5wood (18 degree).
: so i am thinking to give up 3 hybrid, and try to get a good 3wood to fill
: the gap between 5wood and driver. even though adam hybrid and TM burner
: rescue 09 TP still look good and feel good at store demo. burner rescue TP
: is too expensive with FCT and voodoo shaft.
: 3wood choices:
: TM burner
: callaway big bertha
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 7 now i feel that 3H and 3iron are very mental, because of the burden of
supposed distance.
you are suppose to hit 3H or 3iron the longest (behind FW and driver).
this is a bad idea, often led to over swing or mishit.
from my comparison at range, 3H is a bit shorter than 5 WOOd.
since 5wood is the shorted club among (5w, 3w,driver), so you feel more at
ease, dont you.
for TM burner rescue, i figure you have to get Tour Preferred version.
taylormade superfast reax shaft may be not very good, al
【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: You must hit hybrid really well. I use 2H to replace 5 wood.
: Among all fairway woods, I like TM and Ping.
: Among all hybrids, I like TM or Cobra.
:
: hybrid
: TP
| p****4
发帖数: 517 | 8 Yes, 2009 TP version is great.
I would hit 3H more like 7i, not 5W.
with
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: now i feel that 3H and 3iron are very mental, because of the burden of
: supposed distance.
: you are suppose to hit 3H or 3iron the longest (behind FW and driver).
: this is a bad idea, often led to over swing or mishit.
: from my comparison at range, 3H is a bit shorter than 5 WOOd.
: since 5wood is the shorted club among (5w, 3w,driver), so you feel more at
: ease, dont you.
: for TM burner rescue, i figure you have to get Tour Preferred version.
: taylormade superfast reax shaft may be not very good, al
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 9 把burner rescue 08退了，换成 adams insight tech a4 hybrid FW 3+ (matrix ozik
shaft), 结果REFUND 还有剩余， 就弄了一个$33 cobra baffler (adilda nvs shaft
, 3r, 20 DEGREE)
去range 一试用， BAFFER KILLS, EASY TO HIT, HIGH TRAJECTORY, GOOD DISTANCE.
HITTING LIKE A IRON.
后来一查， BAFFLER 其实是HYBRID UTILITY 的先驱。。。 果然好用。。。 MY
DRIVER SHAFT IS ADILDA, MAYBE I AM USED TO THE SHAFT.
A4 3wood disappoints. not nearly as good as my SPEEDLINE 5wood. MAYBE IT
IS STRONG 3WOOD, OR I AM NOT USED TO MATRIX OZIK...
【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: You must hit hybrid really well. I use 2H to replace 5 wood.
: Among all fairway woods, I like TM and Ping.
: Among all hybrids, I like TM or Cobra.
:
: hybrid
: TP
| p****4
发帖数: 517 | 10 Shaft is important. I started to have Fuji Speeder on my hybrids (Baffler
Pro),. Now every of my woods and hybrids have the Speeder shaft. I may look
into Motore line when the price comes down a little bit.
ozik
shaft
.
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: 把burner rescue 08退了，换成 adams insight tech a4 hybrid FW 3+ (matrix ozik
: shaft), 结果REFUND 还有剩余， 就弄了一个$33 cobra baffler (adilda nvs shaft
: , 3r, 20 DEGREE)
: 去range 一试用， BAFFER KILLS, EASY TO HIT, HIGH TRAJECTORY, GOOD DISTANCE.
: HITTING LIKE A IRON.
: 后来一查， BAFFLER 其实是HYBRID UTILITY 的先驱。。。 果然好用。。。 MY
: DRIVER SHAFT IS ADILDA, MAYBE I AM USED TO THE SHAFT.
: A4 3wood disappoints. not nearly as good as my SPEEDLINE 5wood. MAYBE IT
: IS STRONG 3WOOD, OR I AM NOT USED TO MATRIX OZIK...
| | | b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 11 no, it's a Victory, not dymo. Still a good deal?
the
once
swing
good
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: check the list of 3woods i posted.
: nike dymo is a good one.
: with woodoo, it is no brainer. get it and try it on range and tell me the
: results. voodoo has reputation of being long, i tried titlist driver once
: with voodoo. didn't see much difference tho. maybe at that time my swing
: was so poor that it didn't make any difference.
: i am thinking to get adams. kind of like their square head.
: personally, for the 5wood i got last year, i get 240 yards carry on a good
: day, graphalloy shaft.
: the sha
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 12 i found a speedline 9032Ti 14.5 degree 3wood, with voodoo, $120 or so.
how often you can get a titanium 3wood with voodoo shaft?
unfortunately, i compared the specification with R9. the shaft is cut down
to 41 inches.
so i can not take it.
victory is good line. but make sure the specification of the used one is
standard and flex fit you swing.
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: no, it's a Victory, not dymo. Still a good deal?
:
: the
: once
: swing
: good
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 13 fuji speeder not "motore speeder"?
motore speeder may be comparable to aldila voodoo, both mention technologies
to overcome shaft deformation.
i got the baffler 2004, non-pro version. but still feel great about it.
yesterday tried it again, killed one shot, landed near front green, and rolled onto 243 yard green.
definitely felt better than burner rescue 08. and it is only $33.
my 3iron can forever retire now.
look
【在 p****4 的大作中提到】
: Shaft is important. I started to have Fuji Speeder on my hybrids (Baffler
: Pro),. Now every of my woods and hybrids have the Speeder shaft. I may look
: into Motore line when the price comes down a little bit.
:
: ozik
: shaft
: .
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 14 brand new adams 9032 speedline titanium drop under $100 today, with voodoo
shaft
could be longer than TM burner TP at lower price. | t*******5
发帖数: 300 | 15 俺不忍心看你们受骗，stock shaft丫基本就是个logo，全是oem的，和after market的
是两回事。除了少数几个牌子的少数几个型号。如d3的voodoo和真的voodoo基本一样 | p****4
发帖数: 517 | 16 True to some degree. I can not afford to customize each of my clubs. Have to
live with stock on most of them.
【在 t*******5 的大作中提到】
: 俺不忍心看你们受骗，stock shaft丫基本就是个logo，全是oem的，和after market的
: 是两回事。除了少数几个牌子的少数几个型号。如d3的voodoo和真的voodoo基本一样
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 17 titlist did emphasize that D3 use voodoo shaft like after market.
most other manufacturer usually say the shaft were made for them by Adilda,
so i guess Adams get wholesale price on voodoo shafts, so they can afford to
provide at a lower price.
have you ever tried on range with true voodoo vs other shaft? how much is
the difference in terms of distance and ball flight?
i never saw a new club with voodoo offered less than $100 before.
but the store said they will get one from adams, and call m
【在 t*******5 的大作中提到】
: 俺不忍心看你们受骗，stock shaft丫基本就是个logo，全是oem的，和after market的
: 是两回事。除了少数几个牌子的少数几个型号。如d3的voodoo和真的voodoo基本一样
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 18 looks like some amateurs have had good success with voodoo 75g stiff. and a
stiff voodoo performs okay even swing speed over 120mph. so X-flex is out
of question. adilda stiff generally is harder than stiff shaft by many
other manufacturers.
one way to get a high performance driver/wood is to get a cheaper used
driver head, then install the aftermarket voodoo shaft.
http://www.golfgearreview.com/article-display/3130.html
"After that 332 yard drive, I've been working on a few swing changes a | t*******5
发帖数: 300 | 19 反正就记住一点，你可以花150-200去ebay买根顶级杆身，要比花300去买根大牌最新款
的driver要合算。不过其实一般选手的，你用根aldila的nv就够好了，voodoo是牛，但
是就是贵了点。我的建议是，多去逛逛店，多试打，你就有感觉了。现在golf能进步的
也就是shaft了 | b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 20 At least some OEM shafts are the same as after market shafts. One example is
Ping's Diamana used on G10 and V2 drivers. BTW, VOODOO shafts are a lot
cheaper these days. They can be foudn for well under $200 on ebay these days
.
【在 t*******5 的大作中提到】
: 反正就记住一点，你可以花150-200去ebay买根顶级杆身，要比花300去买根大牌最新款
: 的driver要合算。不过其实一般选手的，你用根aldila的nv就够好了，voodoo是牛，但
: 是就是贵了点。我的建议是，多去逛逛店，多试打，你就有感觉了。现在golf能进步的
: 也就是shaft了
| | | v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 21 tried Fuji speeder shaft on a baffler 2 hybrid. unfortunately i could not
hit single good shot, given 7-8 balls.
also tried voodoo 3 hybrid-FW. could not hit a good one either. hit a draw/
hook with decent distance when tee up. 我在想是不是还是得用那种SHALLOW
FACE 的 ３WOOD （such as big bertha, burner, etc. )
不知为何， 昨天１８度以下的CLUB不TEE UP， 我起不了球。
GOOD SWING 是会丢掉的
也许身体状态一变 （INCLUDING ENERGY LEVEL, I was hungry yesterday at range)
， 以前记住的要领就都不适用了。 还是每个SWING 前都要来个严格的PRE－SHORT
ROUTINE。。。
但是用自己常用的CLUB 还是容易找回SWI | v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 22 my swing does not get any better than yesterday (even i had enough sleep and
feel not tired as yesterday)
when swing is bad, equipment upgrade is meaningless.
high end shaft and club design is helpless.
even i try to enforce some pre-shot and rehearse, simply i could not swing
according to the rhythm which was working great 7 days ago. concentrate is
lacking as well, even i do pre-shot routine, i am not paying much attention.
frustrated with the idea of losing a good swing.
what's tip to survi
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: tried Fuji speeder shaft on a baffler 2 hybrid. unfortunately i could not
: hit single good shot, given 7-8 balls.
: also tried voodoo 3 hybrid-FW. could not hit a good one either. hit a draw/
: hook with decent distance when tee up. 我在想是不是还是得用那种SHALLOW
: FACE 的 ３WOOD （such as big bertha, burner, etc. )
: 不知为何， 昨天１８度以下的CLUB不TEE UP， 我起不了球。
: GOOD SWING 是会丢掉的
: 也许身体状态一变 （INCLUDING ENERGY LEVEL, I was hungry yesterday at range)
: ， 以前记住的要领就都不适用了。 还是每个SWING 前都要来个严格的PRE－SHORT
: ROUTINE。。。
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 23 played 2 super twilight round recently, could not get any good results from 9032ti 3wood with voodoo shaft.
at local store, found a used adams speedline hybrid FW 3wood, with 75X NV
Adilda shaft. it's the closest thing to my 5wood in terms of head and shaft.
today played at callippe preserve:
first 6 hole played like shitty mess. from hole 7, suddenly found nice swing
back, and hit pure ever since.
hole 9 from blue tee is 549 yard uphill par5. it was my cloest attempt at 2on par5:
drive 292, jus | b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 24 我个人认为GOLF感觉是非常难重复的,因为当你有了一个新的SWING THOUGHT,导致SWING
的更好了,你就想不断加强它.但过一段时间,或许是已经形成了MUSCLE MEMORY,或许是
这种感觉对于大脑就已经不再新鲜了,这种感觉再也没有开始时那种百试不爽的结果了.
BTW,292YD DRIVE是非常IMPRESSIVE的.
from 9032ti 3wood with voodoo shaft.
shaft.
swing
2on par5:
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: played 2 super twilight round recently, could not get any good results from 9032ti 3wood with voodoo shaft.
: at local store, found a used adams speedline hybrid FW 3wood, with 75X NV
: Adilda shaft. it's the closest thing to my 5wood in terms of head and shaft.
: today played at callippe preserve:
: first 6 hole played like shitty mess. from hole 7, suddenly found nice swing
: back, and hit pure ever since.
: hole 9 from blue tee is 549 yard uphill par5. it was my cloest attempt at 2on par5:
: drive 292, jus
| v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 25 我确实有想加强挥竿好时的某些感觉
但是我只记住挥竿好时的一些次要的附带的感觉， 本末倒置，加强次要感觉过头。 忘
了根本的感觉。
好坏反复几次以后， 对根本的感觉的记忆就强了一些。
还是难以很清楚的描述出来，我觉得主要是：
ON PLANE， 这是能否利用TORQUE 和好的节奏发力打的关键。 ON PLANE 是个笼统模
糊的概括。 但是SWING 是躯干胳膊手掌３维的运动，参加的关节太多。
that drive was ultra straight and right in the center of fairway, mid launch
, guess got some nice roll.
maybe 0.5-1.0 club down wind. 那一出竿去， LEVERAGE 的感觉很强. R9 460 is a
great driver.
SWING
了.
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】
: 我个人认为GOLF感觉是非常难重复的,因为当你有了一个新的SWING THOUGHT,导致SWING
: 的更好了,你就想不断加强它.但过一段时间,或许是已经形成了MUSCLE MEMORY,或许是
: 这种感觉对于大脑就已经不再新鲜了,这种感觉再也没有开始时那种百试不爽的结果了.
: BTW,292YD DRIVE是非常IMPRESSIVE的.
:
: from 9032ti 3wood with voodoo shaft.
: shaft.
: swing
: 2on par5:
| ET
发帖数: 10701 | 26 看到你了，想到了我当年.....hahaha...
hybrid
fill
TP
【在 v*****r 的大作中提到】
: finally get a 3hybrid (TM burner rescue 08, 19 degree). easier to hit
: supposed distance than 3iron. but similar or slight shorter than adam hybrid
: 5wood (18 degree).
: so i am thinking to give up 3 hybrid, and try to get a good 3wood to fill
: the gap between 5wood and driver. even though adam hybrid and TM burner
: rescue 09 TP still look good and feel good at store demo. burner rescue TP
: is too expensive with FCT and voodoo shaft.
: 3wood choices:
: TM burner
: callaway big bertha
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