c*******u 发帖数: 1269 | 1 如果拿401k做hedge, 股票如果赔了(设上限$3k),相当于免税存了$3k 401k. 如果股票
赚了,hold一年,相当于15%的税把401K取出来了. 这么做逻辑上有什么问题么?legal
呢? |
a****t 发帖数: 7049 | 2 表把心思花在这种二阶小聪明上,先去好好优化一下你的组合。 |
s*******2 发帖数: 21 | 3 问题就是没年轻人想把401k取出来。想多投点避税还来不及呢
legal
【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果拿401k做hedge, 股票如果赔了(设上限$3k),相当于免税存了$3k 401k. 如果股票 : 赚了,hold一年,相当于15%的税把401K取出来了. 这么做逻辑上有什么问题么?legal : 呢?
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c*******u 发帖数: 1269 | 4 这个不影响避税呀,只是觉得以后短线是趋势,投401K长线基本没好果子吃.
【在 s*******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 问题就是没年轻人想把401k取出来。想多投点避税还来不及呢 : : legal
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a**n 发帖数: 2431 | 5 短线更加难吧?
【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个不影响避税呀,只是觉得以后短线是趋势,投401K长线基本没好果子吃.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 6 The first logic flaw I can find is "免税存了$3k 401k" and
"15%的税把401K取出来了" are two completely opposite strategy
for different purposes. In another word, if you want to
"多存401k" then you won't like to "15%的税把401K取出来",
vise versa. Therefore, but executing this strategy you are
forced to accept whatever outcome it brings, which may not be
best for your present situation.
legal
【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果拿401k做hedge, 股票如果赔了(设上限$3k),相当于免税存了$3k 401k. 如果股票 : 赚了,hold一年,相当于15%的税把401K取出来了. 这么做逻辑上有什么问题么?legal : 呢?
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c**********l 发帖数: 606 | 7 do it a few times and you will pay 15% tax a few times for free. |
c*******u 发帖数: 1269 | 8 两种都outcome都acceptable阿,explore 一下401K 自由进出的可能。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The first logic flaw I can find is "免税存了$3k 401k" and : "15%的税把401K取出来了" are two completely opposite strategy : for different purposes. In another word, if you want to : "多存401k" then you won't like to "15%的税把401K取出来", : vise versa. Therefore, but executing this strategy you are : forced to accept whatever outcome it brings, which may not be : best for your present situation. : : legal
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c*******u 发帖数: 1269 | 9 什么意思啊?
【在 c**********l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : do it a few times and you will pay 15% tax a few times for free.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 10 In that case I think there is no big issue with your plan.
Looks to me it will work. The only setbacks are:
1) how do you hedge in 401k? For most people there is no
short option.
2) Regular account loss is limited to 3k. A lot of hassle
to control that.
3) A lot of your cash is tied up (assuming 1:1 hedging). It
is probably only good if you really believe the market is
going no where in the coming years.
【在 c*******u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 两种都outcome都acceptable阿,explore 一下401K 自由进出的可能。
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