m********g
发帖数: 10469 | 1 别笑话人黑兄弟不存钱，人吃光用光身体健康，党和政府时不时发点小钱买买龙虾吃吃
Re: O8大笔一挥，学生们欠债不要还了？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jun 10 09:57:37 2014, 美东)
这真不是开玩笑，民主党国会议员就多次提议案要求没收401K，然后补偿社保的亏空，
要养几千万劳模黑兄弟让他们出来投票没钱咋整。
Katy Grimes: With the recent Democratic reelection win by the Obama
administration, get ready for more than tax increases.
The government now wants your private 401(k) retirement plan. “As
Washington debates what to do about the fiscal cliff that it foolishly
created, many potential sources of new revenue will be thrown on the table.
One of them is likely to be 401(k) plans,” Investor’s Business Daily
reported Thursday.
“Retirement is an American’s reasonable expectation. We put money into
investment plans so that our work today funds our hard-earned leisure of
tomorrow. But many in Washington see our investment accounts not as the
expressions of well-planned, disciplined decisions but as untapped
reservoirs of wealth they can drain to fix the problems that they caused.”
There’s a great deal of money saved by private sector employees in 401(k)
plans. But liberals in government say that these retirement accounts aren’
t
fair, and that they are the retirement plans of the wealthy.
More than 60 million American workers have a 401(k), 403(b) or 457(b) plans.
But taxing these accounts or lowering the amount that can be contributed to
them tax-free would do little to close the deficit and cut the debt, IBD
said.
“Total assets in 401(k)s are roughly $3 trillion. So even if they were
seized in their entirety, they would merely retire less than 19% of
Washington’s $16.3 trillion debt.”
Since first election Barack Obama, his government liberals have been saying
that our 401(k) exist on the backs of the poor, as if they had all the
money
and it was stolen by the rest of us.
The truly scary part is that I have no doubt that a majority of the people
who voted to reelect Obama will not have a problem with the government
claiming ownership of Americans’ 401(k) plans. It’s the only fair way to
level the playing field.
“But many in Washington see our investment accounts not as the expressions
of well-planned, disciplined decisions but as untapped reservoirs of wealth
they can drain to fix the problems that they caused,”
The war on women is nothing. “The war on retirement, particularly 401(k)s,
is quiet now. But that’s because it’s a cold war,” IBD said.
In 2008, Teresa Ghilarducci, an economist from the New School, first
suggested to Congress the idea going after 401(k)s. One of California’s
Congressmen, George Miller, a Democrat, loved the idea. “George Miller,
who
runs a congressional committee, Democrat in California, came out with the
first notion of just getting rid of your being able to deduct for your
income your contribution to your 401(k)…” He said we have to eliminate
the
’401(k) tax subsidy’ back in 2008,” Rush Limbaugh reported on his radio
show Thursday.
Did Miller call this a “tax subsidy?”
“The government’s losing $80 billion by allowing you to deduct from your
gross income, your taxable income, whatever you contribute to your 401(k),
and they wanted to take that away. They had a hearing. They actually had a
hearing on this back in 2008 where they heard from this professor.
Ghilarducci appeared and she said, ‘I’ve got a better plan,’” Limbaugh
reported.
“What we want to do, we want to take your 401(k) at its August level,
before the crash. We’ll give you that equivalent and put it in your Social
Security account, essentially, and we’re going to invest that money that
we
take from your retirement account, your 401(k), at its August level. We’re
going to buy government bonds with it, which will guarantee you 3% — and
then we will require that you put 5% of your pay into your 401(k) although
it’s not yours anymore,” Ghilarducci said to Congress.
IBD warned that the hostilities might be closer than many of us think. “
The
American Society of Pension Professionals and Actuaries launched on Monday,
according to Reuters, “a media campaign intended to educate U.S. employers
and workers that the federal government might consider changing the tax
benefits of retirement savings accounts.”
“A website set up by the ASPPA advises account holders to tell lawmakers
to
‘keep their hands off your retirement savings’ and explains that ‘
Congress needs to reduce the deficit, and part of deficit reduction will
most likely be ‘tax reform’ that increases tax revenue’ — the strong
suggestion being that Washington is coming after Americans’ 401(k)s,” IBD
said.
- See more at: http://calwatchdog.com/2012/11/30/the-govt-wants-your-401k-plan/#sthash.zNei8xNX.dpuf | t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 2 what about IRAs?
table.
【在 m********g 的大作中提到】
: 别笑话人黑兄弟不存钱，人吃光用光身体健康，党和政府时不时发点小钱买买龙虾吃吃
: Re: O8大笔一挥，学生们欠债不要还了？
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jun 10 09:57:37 2014, 美东)
: 这真不是开玩笑，民主党国会议员就多次提议案要求没收401K，然后补偿社保的亏空，
: 要养几千万劳模黑兄弟让他们出来投票没钱咋整。
: Katy Grimes: With the recent Democratic reelection win by the Obama
: administration, get ready for more than tax increases.
: The government now wants your private 401(k) retirement plan. “As
: Washington debates what to do about the fiscal cliff that it foolishly
: created, many potential sources of new revenue will be thrown on the table.
| t***n
发帖数: 546 | 3 根本没法执行。
在法律实行之前拼着penality取出来就行了，国家也赚不了多少
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7
【在 m********g 的大作中提到】
: 别笑话人黑兄弟不存钱，人吃光用光身体健康，党和政府时不时发点小钱买买龙虾吃吃
: Re: O8大笔一挥，学生们欠债不要还了？
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jun 10 09:57:37 2014, 美东)
: 这真不是开玩笑，民主党国会议员就多次提议案要求没收401K，然后补偿社保的亏空，
: 要养几千万劳模黑兄弟让他们出来投票没钱咋整。
: Katy Grimes: With the recent Democratic reelection win by the Obama
: administration, get ready for more than tax increases.
: The government now wants your private 401(k) retirement plan. “As
: Washington debates what to do about the fiscal cliff that it foolishly
: created, many potential sources of new revenue will be thrown on the table.
| m**x
发帖数: 8454 | | a*******a
发帖数: 4233 | 5 如果通过了为了预防挤兑必然取不出来
【在 t***n 的大作中提到】
: 根本没法执行。
: 在法律实行之前拼着penality取出来就行了，国家也赚不了多少
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7
| t***n
发帖数: 546 | 6 法律都不可能立即通过立即执行的。
通过到执行的间隙就可以取出来
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7
【在 a*******a 的大作中提到】
: 如果通过了为了预防挤兑必然取不出来
| z****7
发帖数: 330 | 7 温水煮青蛙
主bill里面带附加小bill
逐渐把支取的路堵上
这种东西想搞总是可以搞的 | g*********e
发帖数: 14401 | 8
先改penalty的法律，把penalty从10%提高到90%，然后再实行该法律。
【在 t***n 的大作中提到】
: 根本没法执行。
: 在法律实行之前拼着penality取出来就行了，国家也赚不了多少
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7
| k**o
发帖数: 15334 | 9 不可能的，肯定不会搞没收这么激烈的，那绝对是数百万人造反的节奏。
这种法案肯定是慢刀割肉，让你欲罢不能。比如现在不是免税嘛，
那么就先收2%的税。过两年收5%。再过两年7%。。。etc...
可以美其名曰救助忍饥挨饿的穷人什么的，然后自恨的白人左傻就热泪
盈眶的，心甘情愿的把血汗钱奉送给黑墨了，完事还自我感觉特别高尚。
【在 t***n 的大作中提到】
: 根本没法执行。
: 在法律实行之前拼着penality取出来就行了，国家也赚不了多少
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.7
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