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a**u
发帖数: 287
1
AB两熟人因争用一个笔记本发生争夺,因为有小孩在旁边,A不想影响小孩关上门,窗户
,拉上窗帘.
过程A把B按倒地上但没攻击,B发狂用拳打击A,击中A鼻子,鼻梁肿起,鼻孔鲜血直流,
B为翻身起来不断攻击A,牙齿咬A,抓A头发,A不得不抓B头发,B痛放手不敢再抓A头发,A
也同时放手;B手爪扎入A肉,A双肩手上胸部清淤红肿,A不得不也手爪扎入B肉,B痛不敢
再扎A,A也同时放手.
旁边有瓦罐,B夺起盖子想砸A,A一把抢过扔到远处B够不着,B歇斯底里嚎叫,手脚拼力挣
扎出来攻击A,想藉此翻身,并气喘吁吁。过程B大喊怎么不大家站起来打一场。A只是
一直压着B防止对方继续攻击,过程并没主动攻击B.直到B没力气攻击,A才放开B让对方
站起。
B站起后继续问A要笔记本,A不给,B说要报警。
警察来后把A戴上手铐,AB被隔离询问
B告诉警察被A按倒在地攻击,抓头发,扎肉,被压着手,并出示身上挣扎过程造成的清
淤,并说过程脖子被卡呼吸困难,但没告诉警察自己怎么攻击A。并告诉警察A关上门窗
不给自己出去.
A告诉警察承认争执过程先动手把B压在地上,但后面都是防卫性动作,没主动出手打击
对方。
AB肩膀,手臂脖子靠近胸部位置都有同类因为手挣扎摩擦造成的清淤。但A鼻子被B击中
一直流血。A不想事情闹大,只说小矛盾,跟警察说鼻子流血和身上清淤是自己撞到书
架上造成,
结果警察把A投进监狱,起诉
assault and batter.(实际在A压倒后都是防御性,再没主动攻击B)
strangle another causing wounding or injury(实际A并没扼勒B,是B疯狂翻身起来
导致气喘吁吁)
据说很严重的罪。
在监狱里A被再次核对案情,A不想B也入狱,重申鼻子流血和身上清淤是自己撞到书架
上造成,警察有点不信,但只说this is your story.
警察告诉A即使B撤诉也必须上法庭,A必须雇佣律师.
请问按实际判,是否A全责坐牢,还是B也有责任?双方是否可以庭外和解,无罪?
谢谢!
d********e
发帖数: 2221
2
这个已经是公诉了,不是B告A,所以没法和解。A最好找律师。最多B不作证,如果AB是
夫妻关系。
a**u
发帖数: 287
3
你好,请问B不作证是不上法庭吗?这样案件能否dismissed? 但法庭会传票怎么处理?
谢谢!
y*****d
发帖数: 4451
4
好的律师可以使结果瞬息万变,知道Trayvon Martin吗?

不上就坐牢,contempt
B不是诉讼的一方,不能dismiss,因为B根本就不是诉讼的一个party,所以无权
dismiss。这个案子是美国人民sue A,如果美国全国人大代表大会决定dismiss就
dismiss

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 你好,请问B不作证是不上法庭吗?这样案件能否dismissed? 但法庭会传票怎么处理?
: 谢谢!

d********e
发帖数: 2221
5
Spousal testimonial privilege (also called spousal incompetency and spousal
immunity) protects the individual holding the privilege from being called to
testify by the prosecution against his spouse/the defendant.
一般情况下B必须出庭,但是当庭可以 invoke spousal privilege.这些事听你自己的
律师。不要依赖这个版上的建议。

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 你好,请问B不作证是不上法庭吗?这样案件能否dismissed? 但法庭会传票怎么处理?
: 谢谢!

a**u
发帖数: 287
6
谢谢!!
class 6 felony 好像是严重的指控,家版看到的类似处理,可以这样吗?谢谢!!!
http://mitbbs.com/article_t/Family/32531351.html
只要“ 受害者”在审前听证的时候对
法官表示不会在庭审的时候指证(testify),除非指控方还有其他目击证人愿意出来作
证,否则就会撤诉。案件也就了结。由于事前本人不熟悉法律程序,只好花钱请了专业
律师。对后来者的经验就是如果涉案双方(一般是夫妻)不希望鱼死网破而希望尽快把
案件了结的话,在类似情况下可以省下上千刀的冤枉钱。

spousal
to

【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: Spousal testimonial privilege (also called spousal incompetency and spousal
: immunity) protects the individual holding the privilege from being called to
: testify by the prosecution against his spouse/the defendant.
: 一般情况下B必须出庭,但是当庭可以 invoke spousal privilege.这些事听你自己的
: 律师。不要依赖这个版上的建议。

d********e
发帖数: 2221
7
对,这种事请了律师一般都不会闹到trial。实在闹到trial,法庭要求B作证的时候至
少可以用spousal privilege.
刑事案件最好用律师,这不是省钱的时候。

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢!!
: class 6 felony 好像是严重的指控,家版看到的类似处理,可以这样吗?谢谢!!!
: http://mitbbs.com/article_t/Family/32531351.html
: 只要“ 受害者”在审前听证的时候对
: 法官表示不会在庭审的时候指证(testify),除非指控方还有其他目击证人愿意出来作
: 证,否则就会撤诉。案件也就了结。由于事前本人不熟悉法律程序,只好花钱请了专业
: 律师。对后来者的经验就是如果涉案双方(一般是夫妻)不希望鱼死网破而希望尽快把
: 案件了结的话,在类似情况下可以省下上千刀的冤枉钱。
:
: spousal

w*******g
发帖数: 9932
8
我的理解是这样的.
1. 检察官走程序, 不会轻易放手. 即使老婆不做证人, 警察也是可以做证, 还有其他
证据比如当时说的话和照片
2. 老婆如果是个人的话, 应该在开庭审判前回国一趟. 这是我认识一韩国教授老婆的
做法. 这样一来案子基本没戏
3. 同意楼上的说法. 一定要请好律师. 破财消灾. 别以为这东西可以取巧. 最好无罪.
4. 不要轻易同意认罪的plea bargain. 对于移民而言, 一旦认罪, 后患无穷!!! 宁愿
拖着, 拖几年都可以, 反正有律师盯着. 这东西拖的时间越长越有利, 除非是判无罪或
检察官马上撤诉(非常罕见), 否则宁愿拖着. 拖久了, 人事变迁, 检察官就更不愿折腾
, 说不定就撤诉了.

【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: 对,这种事请了律师一般都不会闹到trial。实在闹到trial,法庭要求B作证的时候至
: 少可以用spousal privilege.
: 刑事案件最好用律师,这不是省钱的时候。

w*****s
发帖数: 2896
9
A是个傻逼, 这种人少一个是一个. 这种时候了还要当英雄充好汉, 活该.
尼玛这傻×当真不知道在美国, 男的是弱势群体, 要被公诉了还护着老婆. 这下好了,
你英雄当成了, 准备坐牢吧.
大家不用可怜他, 自找的.
l******t
发帖数: 55733
10
烧饼女人打老公还让老公坐牢
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x*******i
发帖数: 87
11
很难想象两个成年人为了这事大打出手,还在有孩子在附近的情况下,孩子真可怜,
听见喊声&尖叫,得吓什么样!太过分了。
不过事情已经发生,赶紧找律师,在听证会之前就会见律师,律师会有好建议。一般
如果听证会B就缺席,拒绝作证,案子应该会消。

,A

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: AB两熟人因争用一个笔记本发生争夺,因为有小孩在旁边,A不想影响小孩关上门,窗户
: ,拉上窗帘.
: 过程A把B按倒地上但没攻击,B发狂用拳打击A,击中A鼻子,鼻梁肿起,鼻孔鲜血直流,
: B为翻身起来不断攻击A,牙齿咬A,抓A头发,A不得不抓B头发,B痛放手不敢再抓A头发,A
: 也同时放手;B手爪扎入A肉,A双肩手上胸部清淤红肿,A不得不也手爪扎入B肉,B痛不敢
: 再扎A,A也同时放手.
: 旁边有瓦罐,B夺起盖子想砸A,A一把抢过扔到远处B够不着,B歇斯底里嚎叫,手脚拼力挣
: 扎出来攻击A,想藉此翻身,并气喘吁吁。过程B大喊怎么不大家站起来打一场。A只是
: 一直压着B防止对方继续攻击,过程并没主动攻击B.直到B没力气攻击,A才放开B让对方
: 站起。

a****d
发帖数: 410
12
到底谁是男的谁是女的?还是两个女的在打架?!
f*********s
发帖数: 125
13
SA与SB的故事,争用电脑上MITBBS大打出手,一重伤一坐牢。
LG节最好看的故事。

,

【在 w*****s 的大作中提到】
: A是个傻逼, 这种人少一个是一个. 这种时候了还要当英雄充好汉, 活该.
: 尼玛这傻×当真不知道在美国, 男的是弱势群体, 要被公诉了还护着老婆. 这下好了,
: 你英雄当成了, 准备坐牢吧.
: 大家不用可怜他, 自找的.

j***u
发帖数: 3917
14
应该是A男B女。A明显体力占上风。

【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: 到底谁是男的谁是女的?还是两个女的在打架?!
a**u
发帖数: 287
15
非常感谢您的宝贵建议!!!
请问除了回国,找牧师做辅导类似下面案例可以吗?
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/Law/31183461_31183565_2.html
个男生在跟警察交谈中,说他刚来,不懂美国的法律,这样的拦阻在中国是合法的。警
察就抓住这一点认为这是他承认了自己拦阻了,只是他不知道美国的法律,但实际上已
经触犯美国的法律了。后来律师联系了华人教会,让牧师帮忙。律师向法官建议因为文
化背景的关系,让这对夫妻接受牧师关于婚姻关系,冲突处理的辅导,后来法官同意了
,经过两三个月的辅导,牧师出证明,法官同意DISMISS the case. 这好像叫pre-
trial diversion. 我知道这个律师和牧师至少帮了三个华人domestic violence 的案
子。
祝福LZ和你女朋友,吃一堑,长一智吧。因为有ARREST的记录,办绿卡面试时会重点问
这个案子,但最后他们都拿到绿卡了。
发信人: Adoria (Adoria), 信区: Law
标 题: Re: 和GF闹别扭,刚从法庭jail出来,暂时无罪释放,求帮助
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Feb 20 10:08:05 2010, 美东)

罪.

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 我的理解是这样的.
: 1. 检察官走程序, 不会轻易放手. 即使老婆不做证人, 警察也是可以做证, 还有其他
: 证据比如当时说的话和照片
: 2. 老婆如果是个人的话, 应该在开庭审判前回国一趟. 这是我认识一韩国教授老婆的
: 做法. 这样一来案子基本没戏
: 3. 同意楼上的说法. 一定要请好律师. 破财消灾. 别以为这东西可以取巧. 最好无罪.
: 4. 不要轻易同意认罪的plea bargain. 对于移民而言, 一旦认罪, 后患无穷!!! 宁愿
: 拖着, 拖几年都可以, 反正有律师盯着. 这东西拖的时间越长越有利, 除非是判无罪或
: 检察官马上撤诉(非常罕见), 否则宁愿拖着. 拖久了, 人事变迁, 检察官就更不愿折腾
: , 说不定就撤诉了.

a**u
发帖数: 287
16
谢谢您的建议!!!
矛盾已久,这次是爆发了。但A跟警察口供时已承认把B压在地上,主要是防止B攻击不
让对方起来。如果B不作证,警察抓住口供说先动手怎办呢?

【在 x*******i 的大作中提到】
: 很难想象两个成年人为了这事大打出手,还在有孩子在附近的情况下,孩子真可怜,
: 听见喊声&尖叫,得吓什么样!太过分了。
: 不过事情已经发生,赶紧找律师,在听证会之前就会见律师,律师会有好建议。一般
: 如果听证会B就缺席,拒绝作证,案子应该会消。
:
: ,A

w*******g
发帖数: 9932
17
找不找牧师最好和律师商量一下在说.
这个pretrial diversion program其实也是属于认罪的. 就是你先认罪, 然后做点事,
法庭高兴了, 就这案子就算撤了. 官面上没有犯罪记录. 但是对于移民而言, 其实还是
有罪. 这是一个好多人走进去的陷阱.
楼主好象是給charged felony count又是涉及violence.
这个在移民局眼里就属于crime of morale turpitude是算grounds of
inadmissibility.
我的建议还是找个好律师, 哪怕倾家荡产. 然后尽量拖着. 只要拖着, 你就是无罪.
态度要坚决. 检察官很难打赢这种官司. 特别是如果女方不合作.

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 非常感谢您的宝贵建议!!!
: 请问除了回国,找牧师做辅导类似下面案例可以吗?
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/Law/31183461_31183565_2.html
: 个男生在跟警察交谈中,说他刚来,不懂美国的法律,这样的拦阻在中国是合法的。警
: 察就抓住这一点认为这是他承认了自己拦阻了,只是他不知道美国的法律,但实际上已
: 经触犯美国的法律了。后来律师联系了华人教会,让牧师帮忙。律师向法官建议因为文
: 化背景的关系,让这对夫妻接受牧师关于婚姻关系,冲突处理的辅导,后来法官同意了
: ,经过两三个月的辅导,牧师出证明,法官同意DISMISS the case. 这好像叫pre-
: trial diversion. 我知道这个律师和牧师至少帮了三个华人domestic violence 的案
: 子。

a**u
发帖数: 287
18
charge:
Class 6 felonies: strangle another causing wounding or injury
Class 1 misdemeanor: assault and batter
看到很多都属于 Class 1 misdemeanor: assault and batter 解决起来相对容易。
但涉及到felonies,是否很难处理?如果检查官抓住警察口供里A承认先把B压倒在地,
即使B不合作,至少也是misdemeanor?
非常感谢!!!

,

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 找不找牧师最好和律师商量一下在说.
: 这个pretrial diversion program其实也是属于认罪的. 就是你先认罪, 然后做点事,
: 法庭高兴了, 就这案子就算撤了. 官面上没有犯罪记录. 但是对于移民而言, 其实还是
: 有罪. 这是一个好多人走进去的陷阱.
: 楼主好象是給charged felony count又是涉及violence.
: 这个在移民局眼里就属于crime of morale turpitude是算grounds of
: inadmissibility.
: 我的建议还是找个好律师, 哪怕倾家荡产. 然后尽量拖着. 只要拖着, 你就是无罪.
: 态度要坚决. 检察官很难打赢这种官司. 特别是如果女方不合作.

w*******g
发帖数: 9932
19
是啊. 当时給警察的口供确实是个问题. 现在说都太晚了, 其实应该闭嘴才对. 祸从口
出.
唯一的也是最好的办法是找个好律师来处理. 好多时候你觉得简单的问题其实很危险,
你觉得没有希望的问题, 有能力的律师可以化解.
你是对的. 这个felony charges特别头痛.一旦成立, 你基本就要回国了.
class 1 misdemeanor + crime of violence也是deadly的. 移民局把它当felony来看
待.
不过口供这东西可以推翻. 你可以有很多种解释. 当然没有律师, 什么都是白说. 你自
己是解决不了这个问题的.
这种案子, 你需要的是"好律师"和时间. 时间会化解一切. 花钱是必须的. 花钱消灾.
钱可以再挣, 案子输了就麻烦了.
給你一个找律师的建议: 你随便找个合适的律师, 去哪里问他: 如果他遇到同样的情况
, 他会找谁来給他辩护. 他会说实话的. 不要害羞.

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: charge:
: Class 6 felonies: strangle another causing wounding or injury
: Class 1 misdemeanor: assault and batter
: 看到很多都属于 Class 1 misdemeanor: assault and batter 解决起来相对容易。
: 但涉及到felonies,是否很难处理?如果检查官抓住警察口供里A承认先把B压倒在地,
: 即使B不合作,至少也是misdemeanor?
: 非常感谢!!!
:
: ,

y*****d
发帖数: 4451
20
Good luck on that.

做法. 这样一来案子基本没戏

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 是啊. 当时給警察的口供确实是个问题. 现在说都太晚了, 其实应该闭嘴才对. 祸从口
: 出.
: 唯一的也是最好的办法是找个好律师来处理. 好多时候你觉得简单的问题其实很危险,
: 你觉得没有希望的问题, 有能力的律师可以化解.
: 你是对的. 这个felony charges特别头痛.一旦成立, 你基本就要回国了.
: class 1 misdemeanor + crime of violence也是deadly的. 移民局把它当felony来看
: 待.
: 不过口供这东西可以推翻. 你可以有很多种解释. 当然没有律师, 什么都是白说. 你自
: 己是解决不了这个问题的.
: 这种案子, 你需要的是"好律师"和时间. 时间会化解一切. 花钱是必须的. 花钱消灾.

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a**u
发帖数: 287
21
谢谢金玉良言!!
这几天查资料问了些律师想再请指点:
据VA法律,好像预审只能推迟一个月,只能3个结果:
1.最好结果 no process
预审时检察官,警察,法官,律师,AB都会出庭.如果B出庭不作证,A单方面证词:B先
过来抢,互相推搡,A把B压倒,B不停攻击A,A只能防守并继续压着B直到无力攻击才放
起。剩下警察检察官根据当时口供照片死扣,但法官不追究.
因为B所说跟A从警察听到的有出入,预审如警察拿出出乎意料的有力证据,只能临时提
出推迟预审。一拖再拖,预审不行,上诉到 General District Court,或更上
Criminal,但花费也越来越高.
听说逮捕记录等公民后才seal好,因为seal掉但绿卡或政府部门工作会看到记录但看不
到具体dismiss原因,会问很多,答不好反而糟糕。
2. 次:1年考察
dissmiss 6级felony。接受class 1 misdemeanor,据说第一次犯会给1年考察期,如不
再重犯,案子自动消掉.有待考证,此法可能只对绿卡公民适用.因class1对移民局即是
重罪要遣返
3. 最糟糕
犯罪成立,即使A身上很多伤,B身上基本无伤,但为时已晚,立即移交联邦,入牢,出
狱后移民局遣返。一旦A罪名成立,B申请家暴绿卡,但因B之前没配合作证,U-VISA名额
每年1万,要求严苛,可能不成。
非常感谢!!

,
.

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 是啊. 当时給警察的口供确实是个问题. 现在说都太晚了, 其实应该闭嘴才对. 祸从口
: 出.
: 唯一的也是最好的办法是找个好律师来处理. 好多时候你觉得简单的问题其实很危险,
: 你觉得没有希望的问题, 有能力的律师可以化解.
: 你是对的. 这个felony charges特别头痛.一旦成立, 你基本就要回国了.
: class 1 misdemeanor + crime of violence也是deadly的. 移民局把它当felony来看
: 待.
: 不过口供这东西可以推翻. 你可以有很多种解释. 当然没有律师, 什么都是白说. 你自
: 己是解决不了这个问题的.
: 这种案子, 你需要的是"好律师"和时间. 时间会化解一切. 花钱是必须的. 花钱消灾.

w*******g
发帖数: 9932
22
这个预审什么的其实是走过场. 法官只是看你是不是要plead not guilty.
一般什么都不会发生. 律师帮你一起出庭, 说个not guilty就完了. 然后就要再等待下
个出庭日期.
律师和检察官之间会有商量可不可以降罪名. 你要和他们说你不能认class A or class
1
misdemeanor since it carries max sentence of 365 days, which would make you
inadmissible to the US. Even green card holder can get be rejected from
admission because of that.
Not all class A misdemeanor can have this effect. For some, such as DUI, as
long as the sentence (including suspended sentence is shorter than 365 days)
, it is fine.
However, your charge is a crime of violence, which is very dangerous.
So your best bet is either bargain to class B misdemeanor or lower.
Or go to trial and win it.
if you decide to go to trial, your lawyer can figure out some ways to win
the case. This is not a high percentage case for the prosecutors and they
may not want to go through it. So they will have motivation to settle for
lesser charges or even dismiss it if you can present convincing evidence.
Your wife is very crucial in this regard.
Frankly, I think you need to be convince her that it is in her best
interests to help you. There is no such an easy thing as green card for
crime of domestic violence. The hurdle for that is very high.
Again, it is pointless to debate with yourself what had happened. It is no
longer important. What is important is to convince the jury what had
happened. Believe your own story and let your wife testify on your behalf.
The state has no case.
Go find the best lawyer you can afford (don't be cheap, I spent a lot of
money on lawyer fees and every dollar is worth it).

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢金玉良言!!
: 这几天查资料问了些律师想再请指点:
: 据VA法律,好像预审只能推迟一个月,只能3个结果:
: 1.最好结果 no process
: 预审时检察官,警察,法官,律师,AB都会出庭.如果B出庭不作证,A单方面证词:B先
: 过来抢,互相推搡,A把B压倒,B不停攻击A,A只能防守并继续压着B直到无力攻击才放
: 起。剩下警察检察官根据当时口供照片死扣,但法官不追究.
: 因为B所说跟A从警察听到的有出入,预审如警察拿出出乎意料的有力证据,只能临时提
: 出推迟预审。一拖再拖,预审不行,上诉到 General District Court,或更上
: Criminal,但花费也越来越高.

a**u
发帖数: 287
23
非常有用!!太感谢了!!!
问了几个律师里中国律师说dismiss没问题,美国律师说不知道或half and half.其中一
位比较有名(不是处理这类案件有名)的律师说警察会在pre-trail hearing 出现并建议
方案2,后来发现H身份只能选方案1,其他律师都说警察不会出现,律师代表A的话A也
可不出庭。不知这位律师是否可靠。可以到警察局要一份当时双方口供么?
另外请问这是怎么考察律师?律师会只会推荐他的好友吗?
給你一个找律师的建议: 你随便找个合适的律师, 去哪里问他: 如果他遇到同样的情况
, 他会找谁来給他辩护. 他会说实话的. 不要害羞.

class
you
as
days)

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: 这个预审什么的其实是走过场. 法官只是看你是不是要plead not guilty.
: 一般什么都不会发生. 律师帮你一起出庭, 说个not guilty就完了. 然后就要再等待下
: 个出庭日期.
: 律师和检察官之间会有商量可不可以降罪名. 你要和他们说你不能认class A or class
: 1
: misdemeanor since it carries max sentence of 365 days, which would make you
: inadmissible to the US. Even green card holder can get be rejected from
: admission because of that.
: Not all class A misdemeanor can have this effect. For some, such as DUI, as
: long as the sentence (including suspended sentence is shorter than 365 days)

w*******g
发帖数: 9932
24
Chinese lawyer may be more open with suggestions. They are not necessarily
bad. It is easier to communicate with them and they are more likely to
understand your problems with immigration. So if you can find a good Chinese
lawyer, it should be fine as well.
It is too early to talk about evidence etc. When it comes to trial, your
lawyer will get the police to appear for a deposition in a private setting
and transcript will be available to you. Police may or may not show up for
the pretrial hearing. Like I said, it is more of a formality and an
opportunity for the lawyers and prosecutors to meet to discuss possible plea
bargain.
Be patient. This is a very long process if you want to win. If you want
quick resolution, then you may not like the result.
If your lawyer suggests you try plea bargain, think hard whether it is
something acceptable to you. A criminal record will follow you forever. You
can't really seal a criminal record or expunge it. At least, you can't hide
it from immigration at all.
Lawyers like plea bargain since it is easy and there is no risk of losing.
So you should ask whether the lawyer can go to trial for you if you choose
so. Ask what percentage of the trials the lawyer has won and his experience
with criminal trials.
Also, don't give up your right to a trial by jury. Bench trial is not good
since the judge is only decider and he may be harsh. Jury trial is more
likely in your favor since you only need to convince 1 out of 6 or 12 jurors
.
if you don't like the lawyer you find, just ask him "who he would ask to
defend him if he got in a similar situation".
Of course, he won't choose his buddy but choose the best damn lawyer he can
think of. If he is ethical, he is obligated to tell you the truth. If you
don't like his answer, go to another lawyer and ask the same question.

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 非常有用!!太感谢了!!!
: 问了几个律师里中国律师说dismiss没问题,美国律师说不知道或half and half.其中一
: 位比较有名(不是处理这类案件有名)的律师说警察会在pre-trail hearing 出现并建议
: 方案2,后来发现H身份只能选方案1,其他律师都说警察不会出现,律师代表A的话A也
: 可不出庭。不知这位律师是否可靠。可以到警察局要一份当时双方口供么?
: 另外请问这是怎么考察律师?律师会只会推荐他的好友吗?
: 給你一个找律师的建议: 你随便找个合适的律师, 去哪里问他: 如果他遇到同样的情况
: , 他会找谁来給他辩护. 他会说实话的. 不要害羞.
:
: class

n*****r
发帖数: 147
25
6th amendment 在这里不 applicable 了么?

,A

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 非常有用!!太感谢了!!!
: 问了几个律师里中国律师说dismiss没问题,美国律师说不知道或half and half.其中一
: 位比较有名(不是处理这类案件有名)的律师说警察会在pre-trail hearing 出现并建议
: 方案2,后来发现H身份只能选方案1,其他律师都说警察不会出现,律师代表A的话A也
: 可不出庭。不知这位律师是否可靠。可以到警察局要一份当时双方口供么?
: 另外请问这是怎么考察律师?律师会只会推荐他的好友吗?
: 給你一个找律师的建议: 你随便找个合适的律师, 去哪里问他: 如果他遇到同样的情况
: , 他会找谁来給他辩护. 他会说实话的. 不要害羞.
:
: class

a**u
发帖数: 287
26
非常感谢宝贵建议!!!
很快要上庭,问了几个律师说法不一,有说9/10只是Arraignment B和警察都不会出庭
,且B收到传票是10月份:
you are hereby commanded to summon forthwith witnesses listed below to
appear on 10/2 to testify in this case
请指点,谢了!!!
律师1:
If it is for arraignment they will not be there and I think it is for
arraignment. There is no such thing as a "pretrial".
律师2:
9/10出庭的有证人,检察官,警察,被诉人,法官,律师。可以打掉重罪,建议接受轻
罪,1年内不犯自动免除。也可以尝试不认任何罪,不行再退而求其次认轻罪。
律师3:
lawyers.com上5星律师说9/10出庭的有证人,检察官,警察,被诉人,法官,律师。收
费高
律师4:
the case 9/10 is 10am Advisement , it seems. It's just the first court date,
for judge to ask about your lawyer status and to get your future hearing
date.
witness doesn't have to come to court unless she is subpoenaed (summoned by
court order). She won't be subpoenaed to the first court date because it's
only an Arraignment. Her desire to not testify will NOT by itself cause the
prosecutor to drop the charge. The prosecutor can use subpoena power to
compel a witness to testify, unless the witness has a valid basis to invoke
5th Amendment rights. Do NOT think that the average prosecutor will simply
drop this because your wife wants them to drop the charge, especially
because the police accused you of a felony assault.
If you do not hire a lawyer before 9/10, you MUST appear in court that day,
or you'll later be arrested. If you hire a lawyer before 9/10, MAYBE the
court will excuse your appearance, but first your lawyer needs to check on
this with the court clerk prior to 9/18, and then your lawyer would tell you
if it's alright for you to skip this first date with court permission.

Chinese
plea

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: Chinese lawyer may be more open with suggestions. They are not necessarily
: bad. It is easier to communicate with them and they are more likely to
: understand your problems with immigration. So if you can find a good Chinese
: lawyer, it should be fine as well.
: It is too early to talk about evidence etc. When it comes to trial, your
: lawyer will get the police to appear for a deposition in a private setting
: and transcript will be available to you. Police may or may not show up for
: the pretrial hearing. Like I said, it is more of a formality and an
: opportunity for the lawyers and prosecutors to meet to discuss possible plea
: bargain.

a**u
发帖数: 287
27
请问有email可以联系么?站内信发不过去,谢谢!!

Chinese
plea

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: Chinese lawyer may be more open with suggestions. They are not necessarily
: bad. It is easier to communicate with them and they are more likely to
: understand your problems with immigration. So if you can find a good Chinese
: lawyer, it should be fine as well.
: It is too early to talk about evidence etc. When it comes to trial, your
: lawyer will get the police to appear for a deposition in a private setting
: and transcript will be available to you. Police may or may not show up for
: the pretrial hearing. Like I said, it is more of a formality and an
: opportunity for the lawyers and prosecutors to meet to discuss possible plea
: bargain.

a**u
发帖数: 287
28
你好!
但律师说VA没有这个法律,证人出庭时没有invoke spousal privilege,必须如实回答
法官和检察官的问题。谢谢!!

spousal
to

【在 d********e 的大作中提到】
: Spousal testimonial privilege (also called spousal incompetency and spousal
: immunity) protects the individual holding the privilege from being called to
: testify by the prosecution against his spouse/the defendant.
: 一般情况下B必须出庭,但是当庭可以 invoke spousal privilege.这些事听你自己的
: 律师。不要依赖这个版上的建议。

y*****d
发帖数: 4451
29
nonsense,只有17个州abolished spousal testimonial privilege, VA不是其中之一

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 你好!
: 但律师说VA没有这个法律,证人出庭时没有invoke spousal privilege,必须如实回答
: 法官和检察官的问题。谢谢!!
:
: spousal
: to

a**u
发帖数: 287
30
好像是这个
http://vacode.org/19.2-271.2/
In criminal cases husband and wife shall be allowed, and, subject to the
rules of evidence governing other witnesses, may be compelled to testify in
behalf of each other, but neither shall be compelled to be called as a
witness against the other, except (i) in the case of a prosecution for an
offense committed by one against the other, against a minor child of either,
or against the property of either; (ii) in any case where either is charged
with forgery of the name of the other or uttering or attempting to utter a
writing bearing the allegedly forged signature of the other; or (iii) in any
proceeding relating to a violation of the laws pertaining to criminal
sexual assault (§§ 18.2-61 through 18.2-67.10), crimes against nature (§
18.2-361) involving a minor as a victim and provided the defendant and the
victim are not married to each other, incest (§ 18.2-366), or abuse of
children (§§ 18.2-370 through 18.2-371). The failure of either husband or
wife to testify, however, shall create no presumption against the accused,
nor be the subject of any comment before the court or jury by any attorney.

【在 y*****d 的大作中提到】
: nonsense,只有17个州abolished spousal testimonial privilege, VA不是其中之一
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w*******g
发帖数: 9932
31
Therefore, your wife has to leave the country, at least for a short while.
The DA won't charge your wife for her failure to testify because if she
leaves the country, they have no way to contact her or subpoena her.
It is important to get a good lawyer. Even if she testifies, she could
testify to the contrary of this DA's accusation.

in
either,
charged
a
any

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 好像是这个
: http://vacode.org/19.2-271.2/
: In criminal cases husband and wife shall be allowed, and, subject to the
: rules of evidence governing other witnesses, may be compelled to testify in
: behalf of each other, but neither shall be compelled to be called as a
: witness against the other, except (i) in the case of a prosecution for an
: offense committed by one against the other, against a minor child of either,
: or against the property of either; (ii) in any case where either is charged
: with forgery of the name of the other or uttering or attempting to utter a
: writing bearing the allegedly forged signature of the other; or (iii) in any

a**u
发帖数: 287
32
问了下好像回国也不行,VA会发通缉令,以后只要在美国出现就会被逮住坐牢。

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: Therefore, your wife has to leave the country, at least for a short while.
: The DA won't charge your wife for her failure to testify because if she
: leaves the country, they have no way to contact her or subpoena her.
: It is important to get a good lawyer. Even if she testifies, she could
: testify to the contrary of this DA's accusation.
:
: in
: either,
: charged
: a

w*******g
发帖数: 9932
33
I don't know what VA's state law says. Therefore, I cannot speculate.
However, in my previous state, I read the docket file (court's online files)
of a domestic violence case of a professor in my old school, in which, it
says that the prof.'s wife left the country (back to Korea) and cannot be
contacted, subsequently, the DA dropped the charges.
I don't know whether the same tactic would work in VA so you better talk to
a good lawyer.

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 问了下好像回国也不行,VA会发通缉令,以后只要在美国出现就会被逮住坐牢。
b*****n
发帖数: 53
34
arrest and put in jail?! for what charges? lol

【在 a**u 的大作中提到】
: 问了下好像回国也不行,VA会发通缉令,以后只要在美国出现就会被逮住坐牢。
y*****d
发帖数: 4451
35
这个说的是drop charges against your professor, 那个不出庭的wife有arrest
order

files)
to

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】
: I don't know what VA's state law says. Therefore, I cannot speculate.
: However, in my previous state, I read the docket file (court's online files)
: of a domestic violence case of a professor in my old school, in which, it
: says that the prof.'s wife left the country (back to Korea) and cannot be
: contacted, subsequently, the DA dropped the charges.
: I don't know whether the same tactic would work in VA so you better talk to
: a good lawyer.

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