m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 1 我挺喜欢的。感觉不光是小说,人生本来就如此。 看那个童话说着说着就想起来了。
原著在此http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~rebeccal/lit/238f11/pdfs/HappyEndings_Atwood.pdf
需要六层楼转发原作啊。 (这里不会有版权问题吧)
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John and Mary meet.
What happens next?
If you want a happy ending, try A.
A.
John and Mary fall in love and get married. They both have worthwhile and
remunerative jobs which they find stimulating and challenging. They buy a
charming house. Real estate values go up. Eventually, when they can afford
live-in help, they have two children, to whom they are devoted. The children
turn out well. John and Mary have a stimulating and challenging sex life
and worthwhile friends. They go on fun vacations together. They retire. They
both have hobbies which they find stimulating and challenging. Eventually
they die. This is the end of the story. |
m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 2 二楼
B.
Mary falls in love with John but John doesn't fall in love with Mary. He
merely uses her body for selfish pleasure and ego gratification of a tepid
kind. He comes to her apartment twice a week and she cooks him dinner, you'
ll notice that he doesn't even consider her worth the price of a dinner out,
and after he's eaten dinner he fucks her and after that he falls asleep,
while she does the dishes so he won't think she's untidy, having all those
dirty dishes lying around, and puts on fresh lipstick so she'll look good
when he wakes up, but when he wakes up he doesn't even notice, he puts on
his socks and his shorts and his pants and his shirt and his tie and his
shoes, the reverse order from the one in which he took them off. He doesn't
take off Mary's clothes, she takes them off herself, she acts as if she's
dying for it every time, not because she likes sex exactly, she doesn't, but
she wants John to think she does because if they do it often enough surely
he'll get used to her, he'll come to depend on her and they will get married
, but John goes out the door with hardly so much as a good-night and three
days later he turns up at six o'clock and they do the whole thing over again.
Mary gets run-down. Crying is bad for your face, everyone knows that and so
does Mary but she can't stop. People at work notice. Her friends tell her
John is a rat, a pig, a dog, he isn't good enough for her, but she can't
believe it. Inside John, she thinks, is another John, who is much nicer.
This other John will emerge like a butterfly from a cocoon, a Jack from a
box, a pit from a prune, if the first John is only squeezed enough.
One evening John complains about the food. He has never complained about her
food before. Mary is hurt.
Her friends tell her they've seen him in a restaurant with another woman,
whose name is Madge. It's not even Madge that finally gets to Mary: it's the
restaurant. John has never taken Mary to a restaurant. Mary collects all
the sleeping pills and aspirins she can find, and takes them and a half a
bottle of sherry. You can see what kind of a woman she is by the fact that
it's not even whiskey. She leaves a note for John. She hopes he'll discover
her and get her to the hospital in time and repent and then they can get
married, but this fails to happen and she dies.
John marries Madge and everything continues as in A. |
m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 3 三楼
C.
John, who is an older man, falls in love with Mary, and Mary, who is only
twenty-two, feels sorry for him because he's worried about his hair falling
out. She sleeps with him even though she's not in love with him. She met him
at work. She's in love with someone called James, who is twenty-two also
and not yet ready to settle down.
John on the contrary settled down long ago: this is what is bothering him.
John has a steady, respectable job and is getting ahead in his field, but
Mary isn't impressed by him, she's impressed by James, who has a motorcycle
and a fabulous record collection. But James is often away on his motorcycle,
being free. Freedom isn't the same for girls, so in the meantime Mary
spends Thursday evenings with John. Thursdays are the only days John can get
away.
John is married to a woman called Madge and they have two children, a
charming house which they bought just before the real estate values went up,
and hobbies which they find stimulating and challenging, when they have the
time. John tells Mary how important she is to him, but of course he can't
leave his wife because a commitment is a commitment. He goes on about this
more than is necessary and Mary finds it boring, but older men can keep it
up longer so on the whole she has a fairly good time.
One day James breezes in on his motorcycle with some top-grade California
hybrid and James and Mary get higher than you'd believe possible and they
climb into bed. Everything becomes very underwater, but along comes John,
who has a key to Mary's apartment. He finds them stoned and entwined. He's
hardly in any position to be jealous, considering Madge, but nevertheless he
's overcome with despair. Finally he's middle-aged, in two years he'll be as
bald as an egg and he can't stand it. He purchases a handgun, saying he
needs it for target practice-- this is the thin part of the plot, but it can
be dealt with later--and shoots the two of them and himself.
Madge, after a suitable period of mourning, marries an understanding man
called Fred and everything continues as in A, but under different names. |
m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 4 四楼
D.
Fred and Madge have no problems. They get along exceptionally well and are
good at working out any little difficulties that may arise. But their
charming house is by the seashore and one day a giant tidal wave approaches.
Real estate values go down. The rest of the story is about what caused the
tidal wave and how they escape from it. They do, though thousands drown, but
Fred and Madge are virtuous and grateful, and continue as in A. |
m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 5 五楼
E.
Yes, but Fred has a bad heart. The rest of the story is about how kind and
understanding they both are until Fred dies. Then Madge devotes herself to
charity work until the end of A. If you like, it can be "Madge," "cancer," "
guilty and confused," and "bird watching." |
p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 6 ...看着像我们提纲党的
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 五楼 : E. : Yes, but Fred has a bad heart. The rest of the story is about how kind and : understanding they both are until Fred dies. Then Madge devotes herself to : charity work until the end of A. If you like, it can be "Madge," "cancer," " : guilty and confused," and "bird watching."
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m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 7 六楼
F.
If you think this is all too bourgeois, make John a revolutionary and Mary a
counterespionage agent and see how far that gets you. Remember, this is
Canada. You'll still end up with A, though in between you may get a lustful
brawling saga of passionate involvement, a chronicle of our times, sort of.
You'll have to face it, the endings are the same however you slice it. Don't
be deluded by any other endings, they're all fake, either deliberately fake
, with malicious intent to deceive, or just motivated by excessive optimism
if not by downright sentimentality.
The only authentic ending is the one provided here:
John and Mary die. John and Mary die. John and Mary die.
So much for endings. Beginnings are always more fun. True connoisseurs,
however, are known to favor the stretch in between, since it's the hardest
to do anything with.
That's about all that can be said for plots, which anyway are just one thing
after another, a what and a what and a what.
Now try How and Why.
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我觉得这里的第二段写得很好。
发完,喜欢或不喜欢的同学请发表一下感触啊。 |
m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 8 你插队.....罚发表一个感想
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l******m 发帖数: 31446 | |
b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 10 她的Oryx and Crake就很dark……
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 11 设定党
...看着像我们提纲党的
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m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 12 你怎么什么都看过.....
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 她的Oryx and Crake就很dark……
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 13 发表了,作者貌似是我们提纲党的,基本不填细节
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 14 他中文读得少
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 15 这个是在我哄孩子的时候看的,印象深刻。三小时喂奶一次,换尿布一次,三天读完了
这本……
你怎么什么都看过.....
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你怎么什么都看过.....
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 16 在雷版也读过很多汉字的……
他中文读得少
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m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 17 那人家也得算是你们党领导了吧。总结了六个套路其他提纲都歇菜啊。
也有可能是跟你们对着干的
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 发表了,作者貌似是我们提纲党的,基本不填细节
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 18 故事说来说去就这么几种,关键还是要细节……
你插队.....罚发表一个感想
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你插队.....罚发表一个感想
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 19 出场人数太少,所以情节简单,要是出场人物上万,你知道能有多复杂!
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那人家也得算是你们党领导了吧。总结了六个套路其他提纲都歇菜啊。 : 也有可能是跟你们对着干的
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m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 20 嗯,对的。
但两性关系上是不是就那么几种?
【在 p***r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 出场人数太少,所以情节简单,要是出场人物上万,你知道能有多复杂!
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m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 21 如果没有最后一句 ”now try how and why",为什么不能理解为 “ 细节不重要,故
事反正就那么几种” ?
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 故事说来说去就这么几种,关键还是要细节…… : : 你插队.....罚发表一个感想
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p***r 发帖数: 20570 | 22 物质之间作用不也就几种?世界的复杂性也就基于这几种相互作用。三体以上还没解析
解啦。
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果没有最后一句 ”now try how and why",为什么不能理解为 “ 细节不重要,故 : 事反正就那么几种” ?
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 23 还没没有扯上政治,军事呢
嗯,对的。
但两性关系上是不是就那么几种?
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,对的。 : 但两性关系上是不是就那么几种?
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b*s 发帖数: 82482 | 24 那就没得玩的了啊……
如果没有最后一句 ”now try how and why",为什么不能理解为 “ 细节不重要,故
事反正就那么几种” ?
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果没有最后一句 ”now try how and why",为什么不能理解为 “ 细节不重要,故 : 事反正就那么几种” ?
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m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 25 我个人的读后感好像就这样....如果是我写的估计最后一段就写 Now who cares
about how and why, the only ending is...John and Mary die
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那就没得玩的了啊…… : : 如果没有最后一句 ”now try how and why",为什么不能理解为 “ 细节不重要,故 : 事反正就那么几种” ?
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wh 发帖数: 141625 | 26 她写这些做什么呢?好像既没新意也没意思啊……她写东西好像有点冷,那个oryx and
crake我看的时候冷,看完全忘了。版上朋友推荐过the handmaid's tale,我有这本
书但一直没看,据说各色人物写得精彩。
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我个人的读后感好像就这样....如果是我写的估计最后一段就写 Now who cares : about how and why, the only ending is...John and Mary die
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b***e 发帖数: 15201 | 27 看看这个ending:
美国纽约州波基普西市警方2日证实,一名女教师失踪将近28年后,清洁工在她家地下
室假墙中发现她的遗骸。
警方说,尸体由承包商清理这座木制住宅时发现,屋里堆满杂物和垃圾。经过法医
鉴定,确认死者为乔安妮·尼科尔斯,她的丈夫詹姆斯·尼科尔斯1985年报告她失踪时
,年龄为55岁。詹姆斯去年12月因自然原因死亡,时年82岁。
验尸员卡丽·莱贝尔说,验尸结果显示乔安妮死于头部钝器创伤,“她的头部受到
打击,这是一起凶杀”。
莱贝尔说,乔安妮的尸体被包裹在一张床单和塑料袋中,用绳子捆住,放在一个塑
料容器里。尸体所处一段封闭假墙,一直隐藏其中。“尽管尸体放了很久,但那里可能
没有任何气味。”
当地报纸记载,乔安妮最后一节课上于1985年12月20日、即学校放寒假前。翌日,
她没有去已经预约的美容院。
根据《波基普西杂志》档案记录,詹姆斯1985年12月告诉警方,最后一次见到乔安
妮是在他从国际商用机器公司(IB M )下班时。警长保罗·勒孔特说,自乔安妮失踪后
,一直没有排除她丈夫的嫌疑。
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我个人的读后感好像就这样....如果是我写的估计最后一段就写 Now who cares : about how and why, the only ending is...John and Mary die
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m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 28 比较传统得分析好像就说她是在讽刺那些只以情节取胜的小说写作方式 或者是那种程
式性的写作手法 是对文学和某类小说家的一种critique 这种意图可以从最后一句。
now think about how and why. 看出来 也可能可以理解为对某些提纲党读者的讽刺。
其实我就基本是提纲党的 所以觉得还挺有趣
and
【在 wh 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 她写这些做什么呢?好像既没新意也没意思啊……她写东西好像有点冷,那个oryx and : crake我看的时候冷,看完全忘了。版上朋友推荐过the handmaid's tale,我有这本 : 书但一直没看,据说各色人物写得精彩。
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m********n 发帖数: 3558 | 29 这个貌似是没有ending 吧。
这得归为侦探小说一类
【在 b***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看看这个ending: : 美国纽约州波基普西市警方2日证实,一名女教师失踪将近28年后,清洁工在她家地下 : 室假墙中发现她的遗骸。 : 警方说,尸体由承包商清理这座木制住宅时发现,屋里堆满杂物和垃圾。经过法医 : 鉴定,确认死者为乔安妮·尼科尔斯,她的丈夫詹姆斯·尼科尔斯1985年报告她失踪时 : ,年龄为55岁。詹姆斯去年12月因自然原因死亡,时年82岁。 : 验尸员卡丽·莱贝尔说,验尸结果显示乔安妮死于头部钝器创伤,“她的头部受到 : 打击,这是一起凶杀”。 : 莱贝尔说,乔安妮的尸体被包裹在一张床单和塑料袋中,用绳子捆住,放在一个塑 : 料容器里。尸体所处一段封闭假墙,一直隐藏其中。“尽管尸体放了很久,但那里可能
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m***i 发帖数: 4637 | 30 好勤政的机器人爸爸
感动中国
【在 b*s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个是在我哄孩子的时候看的,印象深刻。三小时喂奶一次,换尿布一次,三天读完了 : 这本…… : : 你怎么什么都看过.....
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m***i 发帖数: 4637 | 31 哪几种?非此即彼?
【在 m********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个貌似是没有ending 吧。 : 这得归为侦探小说一类
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m***i 发帖数: 4637 | 32 这种类似的新闻几年前在洛杉矶时报看过一则
最让我发颤的是最近克利夫兰那个三女绑架案
这故事的后期发展无疑也是如此,当那个司机兽欲耗尽准备销声匿迹时
上帝都没有料想到过吧
【在 b***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 看看这个ending: : 美国纽约州波基普西市警方2日证实,一名女教师失踪将近28年后,清洁工在她家地下 : 室假墙中发现她的遗骸。 : 警方说,尸体由承包商清理这座木制住宅时发现,屋里堆满杂物和垃圾。经过法医 : 鉴定,确认死者为乔安妮·尼科尔斯,她的丈夫詹姆斯·尼科尔斯1985年报告她失踪时 : ,年龄为55岁。詹姆斯去年12月因自然原因死亡,时年82岁。 : 验尸员卡丽·莱贝尔说,验尸结果显示乔安妮死于头部钝器创伤,“她的头部受到 : 打击,这是一起凶杀”。 : 莱贝尔说,乔安妮的尸体被包裹在一张床单和塑料袋中,用绳子捆住,放在一个塑 : 料容器里。尸体所处一段封闭假墙,一直隐藏其中。“尽管尸体放了很久,但那里可能
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