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[求推荐律师:San Diego]
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[背景]
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南加州San Diego. 双方agent都能流利说中文。
出了一个房子offer,是relocation company的, 过程比较简化为: 出了offer并加了一
次价, 对方开始不理,等了三个星期左右说seller motivated to sell,原价count回去
接受了.
接受之前两天左右签了一个addedum,其中有个addedum原文是这么写的
"Purchaser acknowledges a 10-day opportunity to conduct a risk assessment or
inspection for presence of lead based paint and/or lead based paint hazards
on residential dwellings built prior to 1978"
我们在当天做了inspection, 四天之内就给了reports, 要求10K credit toward repair. 之后就是和对方来回的counter. 对方是relocation company,是指5-6天才回一下,正好第17天的时候seller agent告诉我的buyer agent回来的条件不变--谈不拢. 第18天我们的buyer agent写了一个cancel of contract.
第二十天Seller agent回了一个counter offer,要没收1万块钱作为补偿,原因如上addedum条款.
[问题]
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1. 我们buyer违反了上面的条款了吗?
(1) 签addedum 10天之后是肯定做了,然后之后没有谈好repair & credit而已
(2)initial offer算是可定是超过10天之内,可是当时更本没有被接受,也没有前
addedum.
可是"Purchaser acknowledges a 10-day opportunity to conduct a risk
assessment or inspection for presence of lead based paint and/or lead based
paint hazards on residential dwellings built prior to 1978"没有规定从哪天算
起。因为是addendum的一部分,是不是可以假设从addendum的sign日期算起啊?
2. seller agent 传回来的上面hold 10K deposit上没有seller 的签字时怎么回事啊
? 是诈唬一下让我们从了然后再向seller 报告好消息?
3. 难道seller agent inspection之后 repair & credit谈不拢的时候我们推出去都不
行,必须按照他们说的算?
4。打气官司来要多长时间啊,对seller和buyer的影响分别是什么阿?
arbitration是走不通了,因为addedum上双方签字了(seller不同意aribitration) | b********2 发帖数: 5191 | 2 不觉得您这边做的有什么问题, 让您的agent直接回信给listing agent, 就说法庭上见
. | a****g 发帖数: 3027 | 3 有人告诉我做inspection之后可以和seller讨价还价,但是10天之内必须要正式要还是
不要. 如果在此期间讨价还价,seller没有回应, buyer10天之内没有决定要害是不要
,是buyer的问题。
但是加州standar RPA的合同上写了,remove contingency,我问现在还没有签字,但
已经到了第18天由于谈不拢造成的。这个时候我们签字要求取消合同(14B条款),已
经过了17天。这是违反了合同吗?
【在 b********2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不觉得您这边做的有什么问题, 让您的agent直接回信给listing agent, 就说法庭上见 : .
| b*a 发帖数: 17670 | 4 是你的责任
上见
【在 a****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有人告诉我做inspection之后可以和seller讨价还价,但是10天之内必须要正式要还是 : 不要. 如果在此期间讨价还价,seller没有回应, buyer10天之内没有决定要害是不要 : ,是buyer的问题。 : 但是加州standar RPA的合同上写了,remove contingency,我问现在还没有签字,但 : 已经到了第18天由于谈不拢造成的。这个时候我们签字要求取消合同(14B条款),已 : 经过了17天。这是违反了合同吗?
| a***d 发帖数: 1347 | 5 I don't think you have a case.
Leasson for other:
Don't ever think about:
有人告诉我做inspection之后可以和seller讨价还价
little money is ok, but 10K credit???
take it or lost it (your own 10K) | b*a 发帖数: 17670 | 6 你的agent也有问题
验房后要求修理时,上面必须注明几日内有效;规定时间内被count回之后,重新要价的
时候,要重新写截至日期。
上见
【在 a****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 有人告诉我做inspection之后可以和seller讨价还价,但是10天之内必须要正式要还是 : 不要. 如果在此期间讨价还价,seller没有回应, buyer10天之内没有决定要害是不要 : ,是buyer的问题。 : 但是加州standar RPA的合同上写了,remove contingency,我问现在还没有签字,但 : 已经到了第18天由于谈不拢造成的。这个时候我们签字要求取消合同(14B条款),已 : 经过了17天。这是违反了合同吗?
| a****g 发帖数: 3027 | 7 加州的法律条款明确规定,14B,尤其是14B(4)明确写了可以17天后remove阿:
14. TIME PERIODS; REMOVAL OF CONTINGENCIES; CANCELLATION RIGHTS: The
following time periods may only be extended, altered,modified or changed by
mutual written agreement. Any removal of contingencies or cancellation under
this paragraph by either Buyer or Seller must be exercised in good faith
and in writing (CA.R. Form CR or CC).
A. SELLER HAS: 7 Days After Acceptance to Deliver to Buyer all Reports,
disclosures and information for which Seller is responsible under paragraphs
4, 6A, B and C, 7A, 9A, 11A and B, and 12. Buyer may give Seller a Notice
to Seller to Perform ( C A . R . Form NSP)
if Seller has not Delivered the items within the time specified.
B.
(1) BUYER HAS: 17 Days After Acceptance, unless otherwise agreed in writing,
to:
(i) complete all Buyer Investigations; approve all disclosures, reports and
other applicable information, which Buyer receives from Seller; and
approve all other matters affecting the Property; and
(ii) Deliver to Seller Signed Copies of Statutory and Lead Disclosures
Delivered by Seller in accordance with paragraph 6A.
(2) Within the time specified in 14B(1), Buyer may request that Seller make
repairs or take any other action regarding the Property ( C A . R. Form RR).
Seller has no obligation to agree to or respond to Buyer's requests.
(3) Within the time specified in 14B(1) (or as otherwise specified in this
Agreement), Buyer shall Deliver to Seller either (i) a removal of the
applicable contingency (CA.R. Form CR), or (ii) a cancellation (CA.R. Form
CC) of this Agreement based upon a contingency or Seller's
failure to Deliver the specified items. However, if any report, disclosure
or information for which Seller is responsible is not Delivered within the
time specified in 14A, then Buyer has 5 Days After Delivery of any such
items, or the time specified in 14B(1), whichever
is later, to Deliver to Seller a removal of the applicable contingency or
cancellation of this Agreement.
(4) Continuation of Contingency: Even after the end ofthe time specified in
14B(1) and before Seller cancels this Agreement, if at all, pursuant to 14C,
Buyer retains the right to either (i) in writing remove remaining
contingencies, or (ii) cancel this Agreement based upon a remaining
contingency or Seller's failure to Deliver the specified terms. Once Buyer's
written removal of all contingencies is Delivered to Seller, Seller may not
cancel this Agreement pursuant to 14C(1).
我反复读了多少遍就是,尤其是最后一项,14B(4)ii:inspection 没有remove之前
: cancel this Agreement based upon a remaining contingency or xxx. 我是有权
cancel这个的呀?
你那么确信我和我的agent的理解不对?
价的
【在 b*a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你的agent也有问题 : 验房后要求修理时,上面必须注明几日内有效;规定时间内被count回之后,重新要价的 : 时候,要重新写截至日期。 : : 上见
| q****i 发帖数: 9 | 8 For what it is worth, one of my friends says that the seller needs to give a
48 hour notice before the seller can take away the earnest money.
you may also want to ask at piggington.com, a lot helpful ppl there.
good luck! | a****g 发帖数: 3027 | 9 解决了。发现不同州之间法律做法差别极大。
在加州我们程序上没有问题,倒是指出了对方两个重大问题,违反了合同。给对方划了
个四天的通牒,要不然法庭上见。很快解决了。
之前之后读了很多遍合同,甚至咨询了律师,觉得我们没有什么问题,所以敢于下最后
通牒。
但让,对方也想房子,和我们纠缠,胜算还小,所以也就很快地签字取消合同了。
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【在 q****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : For what it is worth, one of my friends says that the seller needs to give a : 48 hour notice before the seller can take away the earnest money. : you may also want to ask at piggington.com, a lot helpful ppl there. : good luck!
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