a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 1 拿到Interview的时候挺开心，查了下突然发现这个就是王立山医生所在的医院，立马
背后一股凉气。。。
请问有人知道这个医院氛围怎么样吗？
犹豫要不要去schedule 这个iv |
l********y
发帖数: 2295 | |
e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 3 I heard that other CMGs survived in that environment. If you don't have more
than enough invites or you have a good people skill, you shouldn't give up
on this opportunity. |
s******n
发帖数: 2279 | 4 其实，这医院还敢找CMG才叫勇敢，环境和人是相互影响的 |
b****d
发帖数: 240 | 5 No worry. U of Washington had another killing 2. I would jump on their offer in a heart beat unless of course there are other choices on my plate.
【在 a*********1 的大作中提到】
: 拿到Interview的时候挺开心，查了下突然发现这个就是王立山医生所在的医院，立马
: 背后一股凉气。。。
: 请问有人知道这个医院氛围怎么样吗？
: 犹豫要不要去schedule 这个iv
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b*********r
发帖数: 38 | 6 This is top of the top malignant program. I heard from a forum that there
was a first year Chinese residency who had a car accident last month and
broken her knee.
这里转贴一个面试的经历 （http://www.sciencenet.cn/m/user_content.aspx?id=317037）：
N年前我也做过住院医生，深深的体会王医生的处境。当年我差一点干出比王医生更惊
人的举动。不过最后还是渡过难关，笑到最后。以后有空再慢慢道来。
先说说KINGSBROOK JEWISH MEDICAL CENTER,也就是王医生做住院医生的医院。
当年我曾经到那个医院面试过，也差点选了它做住院医生。
KINGSBROOK JEWISH MEDICAL CENTER位于BROOKLYN的中心，是BROOKLYN 环境最差的区
域之一，以创伤为主，大概是NYC里面唯一一个有内科住院医生program而没有medical
student的医院。这个program每年找十多个住院医生，基本上都是prematch.原来不知
道原因，后来才明白。
他们每年发出大概300多面试邀请。当年我把它排在好像是第五还是第六个面试医院。
面试时间安排在上午10点钟。由于有了前面几个面试的经验，以为都是差不多，就没有
再多做什么准备，和其他面试一样，带好材料提前30分钟到场。
坐门口的秘书验明身份之后把所有的candidates待到office的门口走廊，注意，是走廊
，那里有几把椅子给我们做。时间一分一分中的过去，一直等到12点，没有人告诉几点
钟开始，问秘书也不知道。
等到12点半，秘书们出去买lunch回来，经过的时候把我们10几个人看的口水直流。从9
点半到1点钟，大家就这么干坐着，连水都没有，有不敢离开，有几个印巴的医生带了
spring water，问了他们才知道原来他们早就从别人那里知道这里的面试就是这样的，
所以他们倒是有备而来。
大概在将近1点的时候有两个印巴的attending 过来,后来才知道一个是program
director, 另外一个是ICU director. 面试开始了。
奇怪的面试: 没有任何greeting,开场白很直接：anybody looking for fellowship?
If you do, you can leave now. OMG!
一个一个的叫进去里面的一个小会议室面试。没有一个人的面试超过3分钟。我面试了2
分钟，被问了一个医学问题，没有给时间和机会提问，直接告诉我now you can go
outside and wait for tour.面试的2分钟有1分钟是其中一个attending回电话骂人，
我猜想是骂resident,很难听。
接近2点结束面试，没有水喝。面试的attendings 没有任何笑脸，后来大家都认为他们
在interview的言语举动very rude!不信大家可以到usmleforum看看在那里面试过的人
给的评价。我几年来还经常看看，大家的评价还是那样。
Hospital tour，由一个印度的chief resident带着。我们问它对这个program 的评价
如何, Chief resident 回答：better than nothing.
Very interesting answer.
到ICU的时候，在门口远远听到有人在训斥。光听声音还以为是街头混混骂人。门打开
，原来是attending在骂resident. 大概3点，hospital tour 结束，除了几个带矿泉水
的，其他人都舞着肚子----赶紧遭地方填肚子。2天后，接到秘书的电话，问是否接受
prematch，摸摸肚子，胃好像还有点痛，更重要的是手中已经有了其他的选着，毅然的
拒绝了。
我明白为什么没有学生愿意选那里做internship。KBJMC是我去过近20个programs,也是
我所听说过的唯一一个住院医生只能穿短白大衣的医院----一般是学生才穿短的。别的
医院都尽量让candidate和他们的resident 谈谈，KBJMC是唯一一个不让接触resident
的！后来才知道KBJMC真的是only better than nothing! 很幸运没有被逼到选它。但
是后来在做resident的program 也被印巴peers害的几乎干出比王医生更惊人的举动，
留待下会分解。 |
b****d
发帖数: 240 | 7 How hard is it to transfer after the 1st yr. Do we need the nod from the
hospital?
medical
【在 b*********r 的大作中提到】
: This is top of the top malignant program. I heard from a forum that there
: was a first year Chinese residency who had a car accident last month and
: broken her knee.
: 这里转贴一个面试的经历 （http://www.sciencenet.cn/m/user_content.aspx?id=317037）：
: N年前我也做过住院医生，深深的体会王医生的处境。当年我差一点干出比王医生更惊
: 人的举动。不过最后还是渡过难关，笑到最后。以后有空再慢慢道来。
: 先说说KINGSBROOK JEWISH MEDICAL CENTER,也就是王医生做住院医生的医院。
: 当年我曾经到那个医院面试过，也差点选了它做住院医生。
: KINGSBROOK JEWISH MEDICAL CENTER位于BROOKLYN的中心，是BROOKLYN 环境最差的区
: 域之一，以创伤为主，大概是NYC里面唯一一个有内科住院医生program而没有medical
|
b*********r
发帖数: 38 | 8 High salary (59,000/year);
Provide good food for free;
Slave residency: even you are on call, you still need to deal with your own
patient (about 15/day).
Poor knowledge-almost all attendings
Almost no seminar, no JC, no expert presentation.
If you have good clinical experience in China, you will be OKEY; if not,
avoid it.
This is my suggestion. |
b****d
发帖数: 240 | 9 Anyway we can leave after 1st yr?
own
【在 b*********r 的大作中提到】
: High salary (59,000/year);
: Provide good food for free;
: Slave residency: even you are on call, you still need to deal with your own
: patient (about 15/day).
: Poor knowledge-almost all attendings
: Almost no seminar, no JC, no expert presentation.
: If you have good clinical experience in China, you will be OKEY; if not,
: avoid it.
: This is my suggestion.
|
l*******8
发帖数: 1745 | 10 我有两朋友在那里，也没见向你说的这样的。
【在 b*********r 的大作中提到】
: High salary (59,000/year);
: Provide good food for free;
: Slave residency: even you are on call, you still need to deal with your own
: patient (about 15/day).
: Poor knowledge-almost all attendings
: Almost no seminar, no JC, no expert presentation.
: If you have good clinical experience in China, you will be OKEY; if not,
: avoid it.
: This is my suggestion.
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S******Q
发帖数: 475 | 11 如果你在食物链的最低层，差了这一口就干瞪眼饿肚子那么去这样的ＰＲＯＧＲＡＭ也
没什么，最多算个卧薪尝胆而已．王医生的悲剧有客观原因，更多是主观原因．不会发
生在每个人头上． |
S******Q
发帖数: 475 | 12 ＯＮ CALL这部分不大懂,谁ON CALL也不能不ROUND自己病人了.
own
【在 b*********r 的大作中提到】
: High salary (59,000/year);
: Provide good food for free;
: Slave residency: even you are on call, you still need to deal with your own
: patient (about 15/day).
: Poor knowledge-almost all attendings
: Almost no seminar, no JC, no expert presentation.
: If you have good clinical experience in China, you will be OKEY; if not,
: avoid it.
: This is my suggestion.
|
f*****w
发帖数: 1451 | 13 I didn't even apply for this program. |
b*********r
发帖数: 38 | 14 这个医院例外， ＯＮ CALL 还要处理自己的病人。
在这里熬出来的CMC也不少， 象赵东， Zhao Xiaotaun, Yan Lili. |
S******Q
发帖数: 475 | 15 难道我凹凸了,虽然我是很久以前INTERN的,可是我记的也是ON CALL你也不能只收新病
人不管原有的病人呀. |
M****1
发帖数: 10 | 16 sure,as early as possible, use it as a practice and your backup
【在 a*********1 的大作中提到】
: 拿到Interview的时候挺开心，查了下突然发现这个就是王立山医生所在的医院，立马
: 背后一股凉气。。。
: 请问有人知道这个医院氛围怎么样吗？
: 犹豫要不要去schedule 这个iv
|
b*********r
发帖数: 38 | 17 这个医院的病人来源主要是老人院。 一般住院时间是一两天。每天入院7-8个， 出院7
-8个，还要ON CALL （这个医院每天2个住院医负责整楼ON CALL）， 所以在ON CALL这
天， 你要忙到晚上12过的）。 |
c*****d
发帖数: 50 | 18 值班都会看自己病人，俩人管一楼不多，值班没有不忙到12点的。但这些都不会很累（
自己的体会，但不在这个医院）。明年16小时限制开始了，只会更轻松。去面试过，有
人看起来挺轻松，有人看起来比较疲劳。 |
s********o
发帖数: 3319 | 19 其实女生不用太担心program是不是malignant的问题，反正有人骂你你就哭好了，骂得
越凶你哭得越狠，呵呵，慢慢的大家知道了就不骂了 |
a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 20 他们为什么不敢招cmg?
王医生的事是个人行为，不代表cmg整体
【在 s******n 的大作中提到】
: 其实，这医院还敢找CMG才叫勇敢，环境和人是相互影响的
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a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 21 这个医院website上的信息非常少，谢谢大家的回复！这里有前辈在那里interview过的
吗？
basselbaker贴的iv，真的挺出格的 |
a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 22 我要当时意识到是这个医院，估计也不会申请了
【在 f*****w 的大作中提到】
: I didn't even apply for this program.
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b*********r
发帖数: 38 | 23 The situation does not change at all. I posted something in USMLEFORUM last
year. The IV was arranged at 10AM, but started at 1pm, and lasted only 2min.
No reception, no smile.
It is really weired.
If you scheduled an IN over there, please prepare your food (energy bar,
water, etc). |
b****d
发帖数: 240 | 24 Thank you for hanging out here. Thought everyone joined the Mason Society.
last
2min.
【在 b*********r 的大作中提到】
: The situation does not change at all. I posted something in USMLEFORUM last
: year. The IV was arranged at 10AM, but started at 1pm, and lasted only 2min.
: No reception, no smile.
: It is really weired.
: If you scheduled an IN over there, please prepare your food (energy bar,
: water, etc).
|
c*****d
发帖数: 50 | 25 IV时候有水，PD也挺礼貌的， 时间长短取决于你report和回答提问的程度，如果回答
的全，就会问更多的问题，有介绍医院的时间。 |
a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 26 谢谢！请问你是去年面试的吗
last
2min.
【在 b*********r 的大作中提到】
: The situation does not change at all. I posted something in USMLEFORUM last
: year. The IV was arranged at 10AM, but started at 1pm, and lasted only 2min.
: No reception, no smile.
: It is really weired.
: If you scheduled an IN over there, please prepare your food (energy bar,
: water, etc).
|
a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 27 有人说面试会发小卡片上面写个疾病，然后让面试者编一个相关的病例，是真的吗
【在 c*****d 的大作中提到】
: IV时候有水，PD也挺礼貌的， 时间长短取决于你report和回答提问的程度，如果回答
: 的全，就会问更多的问题，有介绍医院的时间。
|
f*****w
发帖数: 1451 | 28 I like that! Feel like to make up a story:)
【在 a*********1 的大作中提到】
: 有人说面试会发小卡片上面写个疾病，然后让面试者编一个相关的病例，是真的吗
|
R**********n
发帖数: 473 | 29 也拿到 iv, 正在簌簌发抖中。。。我没有很多选择。但愿他们不要给我prematch,也就
死心了。 |
a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 30 你现在有多少iv了，redpersimmon？
看了大家的回复，我想去试试，不过我lg强烈反对
【在 R**********n 的大作中提到】
: 也拿到 iv, 正在簌簌发抖中。。。我没有很多选择。但愿他们不要给我prematch,也就
: 死心了。
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b****d
发帖数: 240 | 31 $600 for a trip to NY. What do you got to lose? Take this as a practice
and a vacation.
【在 a*********1 的大作中提到】
: 你现在有多少iv了，redpersimmon？
: 看了大家的回复，我想去试试，不过我lg强烈反对
|
R**********n
发帖数: 473 | 32 我以前没什么内科经验，如果没人带，自己又不会，被踢出来的话，是不是还是不要进
的好？
【在 a*********1 的大作中提到】
: 拿到Interview的时候挺开心，查了下突然发现这个就是王立山医生所在的医院，立马
: 背后一股凉气。。。
: 请问有人知道这个医院氛围怎么样吗？
: 犹豫要不要去schedule 这个iv
|
R**********n
发帖数: 473 | 33 http://matzav.com/kingsbrook-jewish-medical-center-in-major-identity-mix-up-family-thought-grandma-was-dead
looks like the hospital is a mess.
【在 a*********1 的大作中提到】
: 拿到Interview的时候挺开心，查了下突然发现这个就是王立山医生所在的医院，立马
: 背后一股凉气。。。
: 请问有人知道这个医院氛围怎么样吗？
: 犹豫要不要去schedule 这个iv
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k********n
发帖数: 756 | 34 My 2 cents:
If no other choice, go and get it.
You can always switch afer the 1st year only if you can get the PD's
recommendation letter and you have good amount of time looking for 2nd year
position. Usually, it is very difficult in a busy hospital in NYC.
The underlying cause of Dr. Wang's tragedy is not his hospital and
colleagues.
The malignant program like several ones in NY are not making doctors but
people with the license of killing patient. Therefore, the outcome will
totally be dependent upon your own personal drive. |
b****d
发帖数: 240 | 35 No shit. If there is no way out after 1st yr, better look the other way.
year
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: My 2 cents:
: If no other choice, go and get it.
: You can always switch afer the 1st year only if you can get the PD's
: recommendation letter and you have good amount of time looking for 2nd year
: position. Usually, it is very difficult in a busy hospital in NYC.
: The underlying cause of Dr. Wang's tragedy is not his hospital and
: colleagues.
: The malignant program like several ones in NY are not making doctors but
: people with the license of killing patient. Therefore, the outcome will
: totally be dependent upon your own personal drive.
|
c*******s
发帖数: 399 | 36 did you make an appointment already
【在 a*********1 的大作中提到】
: 拿到Interview的时候挺开心，查了下突然发现这个就是王立山医生所在的医院，立马
: 背后一股凉气。。。
: 请问有人知道这个医院氛围怎么样吗？
: 犹豫要不要去schedule 这个iv
|
u***e
发帖数: 611 | 37 我去过的纽约的几个医院面试过程都差不多，都不给饭。kingsbrook在这里名声这么差
无非是出了王立山，其实大家都半斤八两，五十步笑一百步罢了。如果你有其他更好的
选择，当然要把这些famous malignant program排在后面，如果没有要再match一年，
那还不如先进去。一年后转其实也没想象的容易，一般需要PD的推荐信，否则这些
program的resident还不跑光了？如果你宁愿再申请一年也不要去这种地方受苦的，那
就干脆不要申请这些program。 |
h**s
发帖数: 1757 | 38 能嚎啕大哭吗？
原来我们哪儿，一住院医，一被骂，就头晕，还晕倒一次末后来就没人骂了。
我们原来二线，你越哭，骂得越凶。后来，他一骂，我就笑，给笑“毛”了，就不骂我
了。哈哈哈。。。
【在 s********o 的大作中提到】
: 其实女生不用太担心program是不是malignant的问题，反正有人骂你你就哭好了，骂得
: 越凶你哭得越狠，呵呵，慢慢的大家知道了就不骂了
|
b****d
发帖数: 240 | 39 Thank you, thank you, and thank you.
The people who love to help others will come to this board no matter what.
【在 u***e 的大作中提到】
: 我去过的纽约的几个医院面试过程都差不多，都不给饭。kingsbrook在这里名声这么差
: 无非是出了王立山，其实大家都半斤八两，五十步笑一百步罢了。如果你有其他更好的
: 选择，当然要把这些famous malignant program排在后面，如果没有要再match一年，
: 那还不如先进去。一年后转其实也没想象的容易，一般需要PD的推荐信，否则这些
: program的resident还不跑光了？如果你宁愿再申请一年也不要去这种地方受苦的，那
: 就干脆不要申请这些program。
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S******Q
发帖数: 475 | 40 其实有些印巴医生比较凶，大家也不要TAKE IT PERSONAL．动辙就觉得人家针对你，再
拉出大旗痛陈民族恨就更扯．印度和巴基斯坦的医学教育就是这个调调，非常的权威制
，非常的严厉，据说他们那疙瘩女生医学院毕业以前没有不被骂哭过的． |
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u***e
发帖数: 611 | 41 大学program也踢人啊，这个主要还是看自己干的怎么样了，和program关系不大。大学
program和社区program都是资本家，只是一个是大学生，温文尔雅，表面上客客气气的
，关门一开会把你给踢了。一个是初中生，粗俗一点，骂你个狗血淋头把你给踢了。
【在 R**********n 的大作中提到】
: 我以前没什么内科经验，如果没人带，自己又不会，被踢出来的话，是不是还是不要进
: 的好？
|
u***e
发帖数: 611 | 42 不客气，我灌不灌水看自己心情好不好，和别人关系不大。
【在 b****d 的大作中提到】
: Thank you, thank you, and thank you.
: The people who love to help others will come to this board no matter what.
|
a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 43 谢谢！
对了，你在纽约吗
【在 u***e 的大作中提到】
: 我去过的纽约的几个医院面试过程都差不多，都不给饭。kingsbrook在这里名声这么差
: 无非是出了王立山，其实大家都半斤八两，五十步笑一百步罢了。如果你有其他更好的
: 选择，当然要把这些famous malignant program排在后面，如果没有要再match一年，
: 那还不如先进去。一年后转其实也没想象的容易，一般需要PD的推荐信，否则这些
: program的resident还不跑光了？如果你宁愿再申请一年也不要去这种地方受苦的，那
: 就干脆不要申请这些program。
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c*****d
发帖数: 50 | 44 是的，面试别去太早。面试完后打电话要prematch，最后有4个名额进入match
【在 a*********1 的大作中提到】
: 有人说面试会发小卡片上面写个疾病，然后让面试者编一个相关的病例，是真的吗
|
u***e
发帖数: 611 | 45 不在，纽约其实有很多好program的，几个大学program都是AMG人满为患，AMG比例越高
的越好，人家都精的很。全IMG阵容的，那就乱来了。知道IMG好欺负。
【在 a*********1 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢！
: 对了，你在纽约吗
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b****d
发帖数: 240 | 46 Totally.
Quite a few white sisters here are pregnant. The PD jumps up and down
because they wont touch any HIV patients, but he cant do shit about it.
【在 u***e 的大作中提到】
: 不在，纽约其实有很多好program的，几个大学program都是AMG人满为患，AMG比例越高
: 的越好，人家都精的很。全IMG阵容的，那就乱来了。知道IMG好欺负。
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z*****2
发帖数: 498 | 47 几年前送外地的朋友去面谈过一次，感觉像到了中国的县医院似的， 赃乱差就不说了， 我
的朋友简单的看了一下周围住宅区，甚差！觉得无法让老婆孩子住在这里，所以尽管拿到pre-match
，还是忍痛放弃了。他们的工资好像比别的医院高出很多。 |
l*******8
发帖数: 1745 | 48 r u nuts? we definitely need to cover our own patients when we r on call.
what does "on call" mean? It means u need to cover all patients!!!
【在 b*********r 的大作中提到】
: 这个医院例外， ＯＮ CALL 还要处理自己的病人。
: 在这里熬出来的CMC也不少， 象赵东， Zhao Xiaotaun, Yan Lili.
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yf
发帖数: 272 | 49 这个人显然是不懂的。
【在 l*******8 的大作中提到】
: r u nuts? we definitely need to cover our own patients when we r on call.
: what does "on call" mean? It means u need to cover all patients!!!
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a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 50 真巧，一分钟前看了你的how to survive malignant program
写的真好！有个问题想请教下，给你发信吧
【在 yf 的大作中提到】
: 这个人显然是不懂的。
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a*********1
发帖数: 872 | 51 谢谢！
【在 c*****d 的大作中提到】
: 是的，面试别去太早。面试完后打电话要prematch，最后有4个名额进入match
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a*a
发帖数: 1295 | 52 没想到这个医院的名声如此...
昨天把网上王立山医生事件的前后都看了一遍，总结：住院医期间要学会作忍者神龟。
十月初给pc发了封电子邮件，回信说他们已经完成interview selection，想想作罢.
一个多星期没开邮箱了。刚刚开了一下，塞满了。一样一样地看，然后看到了kwmc的邀
请，周一发出的。难道大家都是收到信件邀请而非电子邮件？
还没约时间。他们家十二月初都有哪些面试日子？有12/1 或者12/8吗？ |
x******f
发帖数: 63 | 53 me too. But I don't know if I should schedule this IV since it sounds so
scaring.
questions
1, I have already sent out my origianl documents like tramslated-diploma,
certification to ECFMG, why do they still ask me to take these documents to
the interview?
2, they also ask to bring my ECFMG certification with me to IV, but my cs
test just has been taken last month, so I don;t know if I can pass. Shoiuld
I go to IV without it or they will overlook me even if I go to IV?
Anybody help me?
Thanks a lot. |
c*******s
发帖数: 399 | 54 我想早点约，当练习， 如果飞去纽约的话， 住哪 |
e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 55 If you have at least 10 invites from other places, you could also schedule
this at a late date. After other interviews you may decide if you want to
cancel this one.
【在 c*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我想早点约，当练习， 如果飞去纽约的话， 住哪
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c*******s
发帖数: 399 | 56 我一共才四个，是不是要早点去的好， 他们的最早时间行吗
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: If you have at least 10 invites from other places, you could also schedule
: this at a late date. After other interviews you may decide if you want to
: cancel this one.
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 57 Then you need to treat every IV seriously. Earlier schedule is fine if a
program may give pre-match offers.
【在 c*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我一共才四个，是不是要早点去的好， 他们的最早时间行吗
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c*******s
发帖数: 399 | 58 kingsbrook is not the hell, right?
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: Then you need to treat every IV seriously. Earlier schedule is fine if a
: program may give pre-match offers.
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 59 PGY-1 is tough at many places. lzumc2008 has some friends there and he may
give you more details.
【在 c*******s 的大作中提到】
: kingsbrook is not the hell, right?
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c*******s
发帖数: 399 | 60 谢谢， 希望lzumc2008 路过的话，再讲讲这个医院。
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: PGY-1 is tough at many places. lzumc2008 has some friends there and he may
: give you more details.
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 61 Check your mailbox.
【在 c*******s 的大作中提到】
: kingsbrook is not the hell, right?
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w***w
发帖数: 29 | 62 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/MedicalCareer/31379779.html
one thing I dont get is the population growth from 1980 to now is less than
40%. The number of doctor slots doubled in the same time period. And we
have a doctor's shortage. Huh? Wonder what gives?
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: Check your mailbox.
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a*a
发帖数: 1295 | 63 他们家去年给了11个prematch,5个match.
感觉要准备好是否接受prematch,可能你不问但他们中意你的话还是会问你要不要。如
果不要的话，基本上他们就不rank你了。
【在 c*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我一共才四个，是不是要早点去的好， 他们的最早时间行吗
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 64 There was a “physician surplus” projection in the past and now AAMC thinks
that was a mistake. Some of the AAMC’s recent key findings are:
“Aging of the population may drive demand sharply upward for specialties
that predominantly serve the elderly (e.g., oncologists).
The US Census Bureau projects that the US population will grow by more than
50 million (to 350 million) between 2006 and 2025. This alone will likely
lead to a considerable increase in the demand for physician services.
Universal health care coverage could add 4 percent to overall demand for
physicians; this would increase the projected physician shortfall by 31,000
physicians (25 percent).
Any future shortages are likely to have an uneven effect, with some
geographic areas, specialties and subpopulations hit harder than others,
resulting in hardships for both poor urban and rural communities, where
access to care continues to be problematic.
If US MDs continue to select other specialties, the future of primary care
practice is likely to rely increasingly on foreign medical school graduates,
osteopaths and non-physician clinicians.
Future demand for physicians would be significantly reduced if physician
assistants and nurse practitioners play a larger role in patient care.”
If this is true, it could continuously offer some opportunities for FMGs. In
the mean time, more and more Dr. NPs (nurse) and PAs will provide services
for primary care and other specialties (anesthesiology, dermatology, for
example). At this moment, our hospital has a shortage of dermatologists, but
not primary care doctors. Hospitals in this area see patient decrease due to
the
poor economy.
than 40%. The number of doctor slots doubled in the same time period. And
we have a doctor's shortage. Huh? Wonder what gives?
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/MedicalCareer/31379779.html
: one thing I dont get is the population growth from 1980 to now is less than
: 40%. The number of doctor slots doubled in the same time period. And we
: have a doctor's shortage. Huh? Wonder what gives?
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w***w
发帖数: 29 | 65 Still you didnt really address the question. The resident slots have outpaced the population growth in the past 30 and 20 yrs of time frame. Yet, the shortage is real. Just curious what is driving the demand? And the projected shortage is much higher than population growth. Well, we only care what happens in the next 3-4 yrs. Not much change is going to happen, right?
thinks
than
000
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: There was a “physician surplus” projection in the past and now AAMC thinks
: that was a mistake. Some of the AAMC’s recent key findings are:
: “Aging of the population may drive demand sharply upward for specialties
: that predominantly serve the elderly (e.g., oncologists).
: The US Census Bureau projects that the US population will grow by more than
: 50 million (to 350 million) between 2006 and 2025. This alone will likely
: lead to a considerable increase in the demand for physician services.
: Universal health care coverage could add 4 percent to overall demand for
: physicians; this would increase the projected physician shortfall by 31,000
: physicians (25 percent).
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e*****a
发帖数: 1334 | 66 According to this figure, the number of PGY-1 positions has been increased
by a moderate 33% from 18,000 to 24,000 in the past 30 years (from 1980 to
2010). So far AAMC's "shortage" claim only caused the medical school
enrollment increase. We will wait and see what will happen to the number of
residency positions. At this moment, some hospitals in our state have
trouble to attract enough patients.
If there will be no big increase in PGY-1 positions in the next few years,
the competition for match will be intensified. If residency programs can
find a way for more funding (through local support as well federal level),
FMGs will have opportunities for the U.S. medical services.
outpaced the population growth in the past 30 and 20 yrs of time frame. Yet
, the shortage is real. Just curious what is driving the demand? And the
projected shortage is much higher than population growth. Well, we only
care what happens in the next 3-4 yrs. Not much change is going to happen,
right?
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Still you didnt really address the question. The resident slots have outpaced the population growth in the past 30 and 20 yrs of time frame. Yet, the shortage is real. Just curious what is driving the demand? And the projected shortage is much higher than population growth. Well, we only care what happens in the next 3-4 yrs. Not much change is going to happen, right?
:
: thinks
: than
: 000
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w***w
发帖数: 29 | 67 I got it wrong. Sorry. The resident slot number does track the population growth which is 1% a year. Lets hope the green curve turns south and purple turns north as the waves go up and down.
of
【在 e*****a 的大作中提到】
: According to this figure, the number of PGY-1 positions has been increased
: by a moderate 33% from 18,000 to 24,000 in the past 30 years (from 1980 to
: 2010). So far AAMC's "shortage" claim only caused the medical school
: enrollment increase. We will wait and see what will happen to the number of
: residency positions. At this moment, some hospitals in our state have
: trouble to attract enough patients.
: If there will be no big increase in PGY-1 positions in the next few years,
: the competition for match will be intensified. If residency programs can
: find a way for more funding (through local support as well federal level),
: FMGs will have opportunities for the U.S. medical services.
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U*******t
发帖数: 41 | 68 Today, I received a call message from kingbrook to ask to schecule for an
interview, don't know it is true or not yet? I havnot called them back yet.
has anyone here arranged an interview? dose anyone know their interview
spots schecule? thanks |
k**e
发帖数: 2728 | 69 你去找一下当初讨论王医生事件的时候的合集来看看，某个人提到过到哪里面试过。但
是没有多少细节。只是谈了下经历和印象。
.
【在 U*******t 的大作中提到】
: Today, I received a call message from kingbrook to ask to schecule for an
: interview, don't know it is true or not yet? I havnot called them back yet.
: has anyone here arranged an interview? dose anyone know their interview
: spots schecule? thanks
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U*******t
发帖数: 41 | 70 THANKS, KAYE!!
CHESTNUT, HAVE YOU CONFIRMED YOUR INTERVIEW SPOT THERE? DO YOU KNOW WHICH
DATE DO THEY HAVE IN DEC?THANKS! |
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a*a
发帖数: 1295 | 71 They have Mon., Tues, and Fri. for iv. |
U*******t
发帖数: 41 | 72 every Mon Tues, Fri in Dec? Thanks...ada! |
