s********o
发帖数: 3319 | 1 正像很多人都知道的那样，想在美国活得自如一点，必须解决语言问题。口语往往影响
到住院医申请时面试的表现，很多人包括我自己，呵呵，都觉得学英语不容易。幸运的
是，班上刚好有位英语学得挺好的Newbie同学。我们版务愿意开一个专线，请Newbie同
学讲讲自己学习英语的体会，教咱们怎么样才能练好口语。
具体的做法由Newbie同学自己搞。我想说明的一点就是，任何人在麦地用英语发的贴子
，Newbie都可以引用作为例子并且加以评论改正延伸等等。但是，请Newbie同学不要到
原贴去跟贴去批评更正，这也是对每一个人的起码的尊重。
我知道很多同学对Newbie有些看法。不过，每个人都有优缺点，也就是好的和不好的方
面，特定的环境下，有时容易激发出一些人不好的表现。我们都尽量宽容一点，给别人
一个机会的同时也给了自己一个机会。
我其实没有和Newbie商量过这件事情。希望他／她不要推辞。一个人要想获得别人的尊
重，你就必须做出让人尊重的事情来。 | L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 2 This is very good. I'm interested in how she can be so confident in her
English skill. So far i havn't seen any other post more useful in terms of
direct impact to your most important step in getting into residency - your
very first impression at the interview.
for me personally, I scored a prematch offer after the first interviewer in
my first interview. Mostly because of luck of course, but one thing i do
remember is that the old Chair was very impressed with my English. After my
opening statement, he looked at my resume again and then said "i'd have
thought you grew up here in the US"... Not meant to brag, it take a few
years of persistent practice and accumulation. I want to see if she has
anything creative - i'm still striving to improve. | S******9
发帖数: 2837 | 3 I am taking a course to improve my pronunciation from a language pathologist
now.
Can you give us some suggestions about how to improve spoken english from
your experiences.
Thanks
in
my
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: This is very good. I'm interested in how she can be so confident in her
: English skill. So far i havn't seen any other post more useful in terms of
: direct impact to your most important step in getting into residency - your
: very first impression at the interview.
: for me personally, I scored a prematch offer after the first interviewer in
: my first interview. Mostly because of luck of course, but one thing i do
: remember is that the old Chair was very impressed with my English. After my
: opening statement, he looked at my resume again and then said "i'd have
: thought you grew up here in the US"... Not meant to brag, it take a few
: years of persistent practice and accumulation. I want to see if she has
| L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 4
pathologist
well, for me, i went the dumb way - just open my mouth. hang out with
people who speaks English. paid attention to what and how people say it.
made lots of dumb mistake, then tried again and again to better it. that's
all.
【在 S******9 的大作中提到】
: I am taking a course to improve my pronunciation from a language pathologist
: now.
: Can you give us some suggestions about how to improve spoken english from
: your experiences.
: Thanks
:
: in
: my
| S******9
发帖数: 2837 | 5 Thanks。
I do not feel confident to open my mouth sometimes when I speak to other
people because I feel my pronunciation is not in the right way.
I will try to open my mouth more and more, practise and practise.
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
:
: pathologist
: well, for me, i went the dumb way - just open my mouth. hang out with
: people who speaks English. paid attention to what and how people say it.
: made lots of dumb mistake, then tried again and again to better it. that's
: all.
| L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 6
That is a common pitfall. OPEN YOUR MOUTH NOW. make mistakes when it doesn't
matter. don't wait till you are 'good enough'.
and not just pronunciation. It's mostly how you communicate - First
understand what people are saying, and respond appropriately, then you can
initiate the conversation and dissection other peoples response. Can you be
the one that direct a group's activity in English and make it lively? If you
can, you pass the first measure stick.
【在 S******9 的大作中提到】
: Thanks。
: I do not feel confident to open my mouth sometimes when I speak to other
: people because I feel my pronunciation is not in the right way.
: I will try to open my mouth more and more, practise and practise.
| S******9
发帖数: 2837 | 7 Thanks
't
be
you
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
:
: That is a common pitfall. OPEN YOUR MOUTH NOW. make mistakes when it doesn't
: matter. don't wait till you are 'good enough'.
: and not just pronunciation. It's mostly how you communicate - First
: understand what people are saying, and respond appropriately, then you can
: initiate the conversation and dissection other peoples response. Can you be
: the one that direct a group's activity in English and make it lively? If you
: can, you pass the first measure stick.
| a******0
发帖数: 238 | 8 Hope Lexian can come here often.
I know you are an attending, also a BZ somewhere, should be busy, but
sometimes, only one word can benefit folks a lot.
Newbie has her own business, that English corner, not sure how is going
there. She may feel happy to help ppl English here, I guess. | h**s
发帖数: 1757 | 9 Thx,I like this.
doesn't
you can
you be
If you
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
:
: That is a common pitfall. OPEN YOUR MOUTH NOW. make mistakes when it doesn't
: matter. don't wait till you are 'good enough'.
: and not just pronunciation. It's mostly how you communicate - First
: understand what people are saying, and respond appropriately, then you can
: initiate the conversation and dissection other peoples response. Can you be
: the one that direct a group's activity in English and make it lively? If you
: can, you pass the first measure stick.
| d**o
发帖数: 618 | 10 Lexian以上的回复已有至少三个明显语法错误，呼唤newbie老师速来纠错！！
seriously, NB的做法很恶心就是因为她挑的都是些鸡毛蒜皮，根本不影响理解的小错,
且打断大家的正常讨论. 我想Lexian都会同意，如果你最开始OPEN YOUR MOUTH时有个
人跟着你后面逐句纠错的话，你要写个贴子读三遍才敢发表的话，你也会给打击得不敢
用英文说话的。 | | | c****i
发帖数: 40 | 11 希望我也能提高自己的英语。希望能办起来。
in
my
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: This is very good. I'm interested in how she can be so confident in her
: English skill. So far i havn't seen any other post more useful in terms of
: direct impact to your most important step in getting into residency - your
: very first impression at the interview.
: for me personally, I scored a prematch offer after the first interviewer in
: my first interview. Mostly because of luck of course, but one thing i do
: remember is that the old Chair was very impressed with my English. After my
: opening statement, he looked at my resume again and then said "i'd have
: thought you grew up here in the US"... Not meant to brag, it take a few
: years of persistent practice and accumulation. I want to see if she has
| s*******1
发帖数: 428 | 12 You are absolutely right. The very big problem of interview for CMGs is
English,the second is "When was the last time you take care of your patients
", which one PD told me after an interview. Bad English makes Americans
concern. My suggestions for Dr Newbie are (if I may, because I am a member
of her club):
1. I think we should open our club for anybody.
2. About our club’s web page, can we delete all the “通知”, making the
page look clear. Also we can have a “提示”schedule like:
Monday== 10 medical words with pronunciation audio, so members can learn it
Tuesday== one short article from NYtimes with a short explanation on grammar
Wednesday== one short article from NEJM
Thursday=== we can put…..
Friday===Any grammar mistakes that you found in MEDI this week you’re your
corrections, just don’t mention the original post.
Saturday== one song from youtube with lyrics.
Sunday== 2 minutes of an audio clip from a famous novel with the script.
【在 a******0 的大作中提到】
: Hope Lexian can come here often.
: I know you are an attending, also a BZ somewhere, should be busy, but
: sometimes, only one word can benefit folks a lot.
: Newbie has her own business, that English corner, not sure how is going
: there. She may feel happy to help ppl English here, I guess.
| L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 13 See, I said I'm still striving to improve... Not like I sucked, but you suck
more, so who are u here to disagree with me, blah blah. Hehe. Honestly, I
don't think it'll ever be mistake free for me in my life time. But that
doesn't prevent me from using it, right?
Lexian以上的回复已有至少三个明显语法错误，呼唤newbie老师速来纠错！！
seriously, NB的做法很恶心就是因为她挑的都是些鸡毛蒜皮，根本不影响理解的小错,
且打........
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 6.0 - iPhone Lite
【在 d**o 的大作中提到】
: Lexian以上的回复已有至少三个明显语法错误，呼唤newbie老师速来纠错！！
: seriously, NB的做法很恶心就是因为她挑的都是些鸡毛蒜皮，根本不影响理解的小错,
: 且打断大家的正常讨论. 我想Lexian都会同意，如果你最开始OPEN YOUR MOUTH时有个
: 人跟着你后面逐句纠错的话，你要写个贴子读三遍才敢发表的话，你也会给打击得不敢
: 用英文说话的。
| s*******1
发帖数: 428 | 14 The following are the mistakes that I found. I don't think Dr.Lexian will
feel insulted if somebody corrected his English, other wise, his English won
't be this good. By the way, I am still having problems with plural after
taking English composition I and II,even though I pay more attention to this
now.
I admire Dr.Newbie's English. The reason I think Dr, Newbie's English is far
better than most Chinese, is because I showed what she wrote in English to
my Writing tutor, whose comments were: (1) She can use fewer words to
express the same meaning, which others would need to use a lot more words; (
2) she can make something boring sound alive with authentic and beautiful
American English.
This is very good. I'm interested in how she can be so confident in her
English skill(s). So far i havn't seen any other post more useful in terms
of
direct impact to your most important step in getting into residency - your
very first impression at the interview.
for me personally, I scored a prematch offer after the first interviewer in
my first interview. Mostly because of luck of course, but one thing i do
remember is that the old Chair was very impressed with my English. After my
opening statement, he looked at my resume again and then said "i'd have
thought you grew up here in the US"... Not meant to brag, (but) it take(s) a
few
years of persistent practice and accumulation. I want to see if she has
anything creative - i'm still striving to improve. | s*******1
发帖数: 428 | 15 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
.....”
错,
【在 d**o 的大作中提到】
: Lexian以上的回复已有至少三个明显语法错误，呼唤newbie老师速来纠错！！
: seriously, NB的做法很恶心就是因为她挑的都是些鸡毛蒜皮，根本不影响理解的小错,
: 且打断大家的正常讨论. 我想Lexian都会同意，如果你最开始OPEN YOUR MOUTH时有个
: 人跟着你后面逐句纠错的话，你要写个贴子读三遍才敢发表的话，你也会给打击得不敢
: 用英文说话的。
| L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 16
far
to
(
what Dojo said is true to a certain degree. That's also why it's difficult
to be an educator. People are different. For someone that lacks confidence,
her way would seem pushy and discouraging. For an old dog like me, i do
welcome your comments.
personally, i don't think i'm an politician, who "serves" the public. never
intended and never attempted. However i'm a physician. will try to address
one problem of one person at one time. In fact, what i said in 小马过河's
post meant just that: she is too wordy. hope that was not how she talked in
her interview. Get to the point.
【在 s*******1 的大作中提到】
: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
: .....”
:
: 错,
| w***w
发帖数: 29 | 17 Wherever you may have gone...
I hope ur looking down with a smile onto this unjustified world...
May God bless your soul...
Our thoughts will forever be with you.
Lexian (蒙古大夫) 于 (Sat Mar 12 19:44:01 2011, 美东) 提到:
既然有人问起经验，虽然我看像个clueless knucklehead, 还是给你句有用的， 在任
何一个competition里， 你要的就是stand out. 最能stand out的， 就是你的英语了
。 你在这里这个经那个经看了不少吧？ 哪个真对你有用？ 就一个愿意出来帮你提高
英语的给左办右办的， 你又得了到什么？
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
:
: far
: to
: (
: what Dojo said is true to a certain degree. That's also why it's difficult
: to be an educator. People are different. For someone that lacks confidence,
: her way would seem pushy and discouraging. For an old dog like me, i do
: welcome your comments.
: personally, i don't think i'm an politician, who "serves" the public. never
: intended and never attempted. However i'm a physician. will try to address
| w***w
发帖数: 29 | 18 Do u have any human decency to ask for permission first?
【在 s********o 的大作中提到】
: 正像很多人都知道的那样，想在美国活得自如一点，必须解决语言问题。口语往往影响
: 到住院医申请时面试的表现，很多人包括我自己，呵呵，都觉得学英语不容易。幸运的
: 是，班上刚好有位英语学得挺好的Newbie同学。我们版务愿意开一个专线，请Newbie同
: 学讲讲自己学习英语的体会，教咱们怎么样才能练好口语。
: 具体的做法由Newbie同学自己搞。我想说明的一点就是，任何人在麦地用英语发的贴子
: ，Newbie都可以引用作为例子并且加以评论改正延伸等等。但是，请Newbie同学不要到
: 原贴去跟贴去批评更正，这也是对每一个人的起码的尊重。
: 我知道很多同学对Newbie有些看法。不过，每个人都有优缺点，也就是好的和不好的方
: 面，特定的环境下，有时容易激发出一些人不好的表现。我们都尽量宽容一点，给别人
: 一个机会的同时也给了自己一个机会。
| L****n
发帖数: 12932 | 19
不会吧， “looking down with a smile”... am i dead already? hehe
So i take it that u r Newbie. i actually have never read any of your posts
here before - all wiped out? Some here spoke very highly of your language
skill and i can kind of see the reason. However, i do have a little
suggestion for you.
The resident time for me was many years ago, i took the prematch and started
2weeks after my interview. By the time March day came around that year, i
was already working like a dog in the hospital. From time to time i still
miss the excitement and thrill of 金榜提名时。Please put your anger and
bitterness aside for a while and just enjoy the moment. It's a joyful day
for many of CMGs after years of tear and sweat. and you should respect that.
After all, skill serves no use if you don't have a purpose, am i right?
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Wherever you may have gone...
: I hope ur looking down with a smile onto this unjustified world...
: May God bless your soul...
: Our thoughts will forever be with you.
:
: Lexian (蒙古大夫) 于 (Sat Mar 12 19:44:01 2011, 美东) 提到:
: 既然有人问起经验，虽然我看像个clueless knucklehead, 还是给你句有用的， 在任
: 何一个competition里， 你要的就是stand out. 最能stand out的， 就是你的英语了
: 。 你在这里这个经那个经看了不少吧？ 哪个真对你有用？ 就一个愿意出来帮你提高
: 英语的给左办右办的， 你又得了到什么？
| w***w
发帖数: 29 | 20 RIP is for the headstone of NB's tomb. All anger is gone with her to the
heaven.
My heart goes to the friends who arent so lucky this year.
posts
started
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
:
: 不会吧， “looking down with a smile”... am i dead already? hehe
: So i take it that u r Newbie. i actually have never read any of your posts
: here before - all wiped out? Some here spoke very highly of your language
: skill and i can kind of see the reason. However, i do have a little
: suggestion for you.
: The resident time for me was many years ago, i took the prematch and started
: 2weeks after my interview. By the time March day came around that year, i
: was already working like a dog in the hospital. From time to time i still
: miss the excitement and thrill of 金榜提名时。Please put your anger and
| g*******2
发帖数: 21 | 21 When I first read the tale of the emperor's clothes as a little girl, I was
like this is lunatic, how could this happen? As years gone by, I realized
that it does happen. What you wear is right in the face of others when you
parade in front of everyone. I can relate so much with the little girl who
shouts but he does not have anything on.
A few new words for today:
Hasbeen: He is a Hollywood hasbeen.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/has-been
Haves and havenots:
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/31/the-haves-and-the-
Spoiled Rat:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiled_child
Wimp:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wimp |
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