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Tea Party 'tantrum' not good for nation
1:30 PM, Aug. 5, 2011 |
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Thanks to the Tea Party. For them, it's my way or the highway — does that
remind you of your children's temper tantrums? Well, it worked!
Forget the poor, the elderly and the unemployed, while the wealthiest
continue to enjoy their quality of life at the expense of the rest of us.
God help us.
The Rev. and Mrs. Robert Adkins
Elmira
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Anarchy1984
12:20 AM on August 8, 2011
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What do you mean by the poor? Do you mean the welfare recipients that refuse
to work and pop out new welfare babies by the bushel? By old do you mean
those too stupid to save up for retirement like the rest of us have too? I
think that you should use your tax free status to take care of these poor,
old people for the rest of us. Because I for one am sick of my meager
paycheck getting less and less as I stand behind those "poor" with their W.I
.C and EBT cards getting free stuff, while all the while having enough money
left over for high priced cigs and beer. The working people of this country
are getting drained, not the rich. So be god like and take care of the poor
and suffering. I don't want too anymore.
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efaer
4:52 AM on August 8, 2011
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I am blown away by what I am hearing. The only politicians who stood by
their principles, stood by the people who voted for them and stood for
fiscal responsibility for the rest of us, are being lambasted. The only way
to take care of anyone is to take care of this problem of spending more than
you bring in. Perhaps you believe China will take better care of them?
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1Rangerrick
7:18 AM on August 8, 2011
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AMEN and Anarchy he isn't talking about the welfare people, we all know they
're bums. He's referring to the guy working two jobs to try and feed his
family but it just keeps getting harder and harder. With companies like
NYSEG who is out of control the state does NOTHING about it. Other than that
the City School District is finding out that spending more than you have is
not a good thing.. sooner or later the bills come in and have to be paid.
And I agree I'm tired of working my backside off to take care of people who
are just going to sit there and do NOTHING to help themselves. I was in the
store yesterday and watched 2 people spend 40 dollars in food stamps to buy
subs, soda and a ton of candy. THAT is NOT what this was meant for but hey
as long as you don't have to work, why not? This city is getting to the
point where there's almost a 50/50 population. 50% working the other living
off of their hard work... sooner or later that number is going to get higher
then what is everyone going to do? By then I will be out of this hole they
call NY.
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JEButler
8:15 AM on August 8, 2011
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I don't see masses of people living under bridges around here. In fact they
got an increase at a time the workers are being raped of what they did have.
The elderly are being hit harder by Obamas finanicial actions then any
others watching their savings waste away. As for the wealthy, implement more
then a fair tax on select individuals anymore is stealing!! Just because it
is a politician taking it out of his pocket doesn't make it right. Give a
helping hand where needed but get them off my back because I am NOT their
retirement plan!!
Easy to want what others have. Problem is it is never enough and doesn't
last long giving it to people who will just waste it away anyway. Today they
want what the wealthy have, tomorrow what the upper middle class have, then
the middle class. They won't stop till they get it all and in the end they
will still want andf have nothing!! The Soviet Union found that out, and it
corrected it, and they are now warning us noty to go there!!
JB
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elmiradan
8:46 AM on August 8, 2011
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Boy are you guys missing the point.Nobody like lazy people who won't work or
don't try to better themselves.But that is not our problem right now we
have a huge new underclass called the "working poor" . Most food stamp
recipients are the working poor who don't make enough to make ends meet.I
would love to see as much anger vented towards the American corporations and
the super wealthy who pay less of the percentage of taxes than most of us
do. We need to fix both ends of the welfare systems in our country social
welfare and corporate welfare.
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justthefactsplz
9:10 AM on August 8, 2011
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notfox wrote- "You are describing poverty, a step below poor."
Why don't you point what, in Ararchy1984's writing, describes poverty.
Poverty is not having the basic necessities for life food, shelter, clothes
and clean drinking water. Not having cigarettes, beer, chips, a Game Boy or
flat screen do not qualify as undicators of poverty.
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justthefactsplz
9:31 AM on August 8, 2011
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As for the seniors- they paid in to Social Security and should be entitled
to get their pensions. The military are on security call 24/7 and earn their
pay every day. Both the military and the seniors are among the last groups
that would have lost benefits- between them they are a huge voting block in
this country.
The Democrat's used scare tactics to try and chokehold the Republicans into
submission, and that is tantamount to attempting psychological terrorism
enmasse.
I can't imagine any president or government body, especially this one,
cutting pay for active duty soldiers. There are enough military who don't
agree with the direction this president is leading our country that he
should be worried. Political coups typically start by leaders trying to
wield too much power, taking away liberties and ticking off enough of the
military that their allegiance and moral obligation to the people supercedes
their comittment to the leader.
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crookedeye
9:36 AM on August 8, 2011
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Tea Party Tantrum? Fits pretty good if we're speaking of three and four year
old-s playing tea party on a cardboard box -but here we are talking about
grown adults, church going, god fearing -primarily white Evangelical know
nothings, the hard core Bush-Chaney and company followers/puppet types.
The tea party is now America's bushy smelly armpit as politicians go. They
are American's with misplaced arrogance and no brains or common sense to
keep in the main stream of republican politics, but republicans they are and
let there be no doubt about that. Also let there be no doubt that with tea
party ingrates driving America to the brink of utter stupidity over a debt
limit that is as routine as it gets in Washington, has mis-handled the
entire occasion soo badly -that resulted in our country being down-graded
world-wide.
The police always say, its always a few bad cops that make them all look bad
. The Republican's are attempting to apply the same layer of non-sense
between themselves and the tea-party but- like the police can't, neither can
the republicans level such a misdirecting lie in a believable fashion that
the public will ever accept.
The tea party know-nothings are the best thing to happen for Democrat's that
's politically helpful in a while. I'm rather enjoying watching the
conservative' bible trumpeters consume their own in every form of media.
The Tea Party - the conservative RED headed toe-tapping step-children in the
room.
Tantrum anyone? lol
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AmericanCEO
9:42 AM on August 8, 2011
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Here we go again..
"From each according to his abilities. To each according to his need." -
Karl Marx ..
All good Communism still believe this nonsense.
When will liberals understand that there is no answer to those that will not
work to better themselves.
The Tea Party Republicans are the only ones that I see that keep their word
to those that voted them in.
For the rest of you... "Who is John Galt?"
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crookedeye
11:36 AM on August 8, 2011
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Tea Party Tantrum will now cost every American so much -in so many ways, -
especially during those moments around millions of American shrinking dinner
tables.
http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2011/08/08/why-congress
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karoden
1:54 PM on August 8, 2011
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The Good Reverend from his Bully Pulpit says the Tea Party motto is " My way
Or The Highway ??? Hey Rev how about rephrasing the Tea Party motto to say
" We Have Had Enough " of the congressional motto of " Because We Say So ".
Place the blame where it should be, at the feet of congress and the White
House occupants for the past 50 years.
The Jerks in D.C. have spent us into poverty in order to insure their re-
elections.
And let me ask Reverend ??? By using your title as a minister of the Gospel
is that intended to lend credence to your opinion of the Tea Party ? I
respect your beliefs and the profession you have chosen Reverend, but please
excuse me if I form my own personal political opinion.
So Be It.
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retiredgysgt
2:07 PM on August 8, 2011
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The S + P stated that we must cut 4 trillion dollars. After a lot of
fighting the tea party could only get two trillion dollars. The S+ P stated
that because of the lack of political will to cut spending and the turmoil
it has caused they down graded us. Obama says its Bush's falt and then he
blamed it on the tea party and then the Republicans. I guess that old saying
is true. You have to do something in order to get blamed. Based upon that
saying, Obama will never be blamed.
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Rookkey
2:09 PM on August 8, 2011
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It wasn't the Tea Party that set up a $14 billion dollar tax-payer funded
slush fund for GM investors.
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SacredHonor
2:56 PM on August 8, 2011
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So are 95 House Democrats “terrorists” like the Tea Party Members of
Congress? What about Bernie Sanders and the rest of those Liberal, Marxist's
and their "tantrums" and "hissy fits."
Well, "Reverend." I suppose you don't remember last Novembers election do
you? If you forgot, we'll remind you next November when more Tea Party
candidates win the Senate and Congress. Obama will be out on his a-- and you
"Reverend" can go sing kumbaya with "Reverend Jeremiah "God d--- America"
Wright!
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SacredHonor
3:00 PM on August 8, 2011
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DOW -5OO...
Investors flee...
IT TANKED AS HE (Obama) TALKED...
Bob Beckel: "Barack Obama Is The Greatest Economic President Since FDR" LMAO
! FDR SUCKED!
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LeroyBaker
5:46 PM on August 8, 2011
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Seems as though the TEA Party republicans were the only ones who could have
avoided the downgrade and resultant market drop, but what do facts have to
do with a feel good rant.
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SacredHonor
6:26 PM on August 8, 2011
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Mission Statement
The impetus for the Tea Party movement is excessive government spending and
taxation. Our mission is to attract, educate, organize, and mobilize our
fellow citizens to secure public policy consistent with our three core
values of Fiscal Responsibility, Constitutionally Limited Government and
Free Markets.
Simple.
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karoden
6:28 PM on August 8, 2011
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Speaking of Tantrums being thrown ?? During this whole Budget Fiasco the
most Tantrum throwing I saw was by Mr Obama, Senator Harry Reid, and the
Liberal Left who were aided and abetted by the RINO Party Members. Talk
about " My Way Or The Highway ". Oh and I almost forgot to give the Biggest
Congressional Cry Baby credit for his frothing at the mouth Tantrum againts
the Tea Party. I refer to the Self Proclaimed War Hero from Arizona name
John McCain.
Let me ask the Good Reverend how he describes a man who refuses to go along
with anything less than a Blank Check or unlimited Credit Card so he can
keep spending the country into extinction ? Especially when that man and his
wife are living in splendor, occupying a huge white mansion and taking
trips and junkets all over the world at the American Taxpayers expense ?
And we won't even begin to list the current and ex members of congress who
didn't pay Income Taxes on millions of dollars of income, because they didn'
t know they were required by law to do so. And many of those Tax Evading
congressional menbers are Attorney's At Law who claimed Ignorance of the law
, and are allowed to walk free.
And you Good Reverend to so piously point your finger and voice accusations
at Tea Party member's who are only demanding Fiscal responibility. Sounds
somewhat like a TANTRUM to me Reverend.
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OdieNY
7:11 PM on August 8, 2011
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The strongest and most damaging waves start at the bottom, too bad the Tea
Party Wave started at the bottom of a cesspool!
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flustered1
7:31 PM on August 8, 2011
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Who's at fault according to president obama, lets see so far he has stated
The republicans, The tea party, Conservatives, Congress, the Tsunami and
Arab spring are all at fault, A tsunami really.! So say the military are a
fault - really they are merely taking orders, Oh by the way in the past 10
years the 2 wars have cost us 1 Trillion dollars, Ever notice Obama is not
accepting any of the fault, believing that he is above the law!!!!!!!!!!!
If it wasn't for the tea party forcing these issues the so called elite in
Washington would have raised the debt limit and told you to your smiling
blind eyes that all is great and you can keep on going with your special
life. In the mean time they would run up greater debt that there would be no
chance to ever recover from, As it sits now they have a bogus agreement in
effect that Obama is loving because it is running us further into debt with
countries like china. And he does not have to support any further actions
that the agreement put into place.
We have let Washington spend our children's, children's money, They have
spent money on congress's and the senates special needs for the past 50
years with no fear, Yes we need Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and
yes welfare. But those programs are fraught with waste fraud and abuse, they
need to be fixed. We need a real Immigration bill passed forcing all of the
illegals back home. We need to list the Drug cartels as Terrorist
organizations, that would fix it so the military can actively be used to
shut them down.
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SacredHonor
1:02 AM on August 9, 2011
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Face it! The wprld welfare society is collapsing right in front of our eyes.
Question is, what's next? Liberty or tyranny? Jefferson and Madison? Or,
Obama and Saul Alinsky?
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Socceruncle
8:44 AM on August 9, 2011
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The Tea Party is not the root of our problems. Focus on our leaders who
continue to spend more money than we have.
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Socceruncle
8:45 AM on August 9, 2011
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We're witnessing the failure of socialism. This is good news for our country. | T*R
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No. Average people are only led to believe their problems are caused by "
high" welfare spending, thus they hate it.
【在 u****n 的大作中提到】
: 美国普通人非常痛恨过度的福利制度
: 主贴:
: Tea Party 'tantrum' not good for nation
: 1:30 PM, Aug. 5, 2011 |
: 66Comments
: http://www.stargazette.com/article/20110808/VIEWPOINTS03/108080
: Thanks to the Tea Party. For them, it's my way or the highway — does that
: remind you of your children's temper tantrums? Well, it worked!
: Forget the poor, the elderly and the unemployed, while the wealthiest
: continue to enjoy their quality of life at the expense of the rest of us.
| r**m
发帖数: 2823 | | Y****N
发帖数: 8694 | 5 我看这些所谓中产，也是被洗脑的厉害
美国税务上真正的大窟窿，是那些有钱人和大公司
他们收入巨高，利润巨多，但是享受大量的减税甚至免税
但是他们从来都不站前台，而是靠媒体发动那些所谓的中产阶级去反对加税
这些中产被人抢了，还帮人数钱，
一说到要给富人和大公司加税就无比悲愤
一年收入不过10万出头，潜意识却把自己当富人
恨不得在脑门上跟穷人和minority划清界限
也是可笑的很 | g***j
发帖数: 40861 | | u****n
发帖数: 7521 | 7 有工作的人。
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 你这个普通人不包括穷人。
| u****n
发帖数: 7521 | 8 美国的税率还低吗？看附件。
【在 Y****N 的大作中提到】
: 我看这些所谓中产，也是被洗脑的厉害
: 美国税务上真正的大窟窿，是那些有钱人和大公司
: 他们收入巨高，利润巨多，但是享受大量的减税甚至免税
: 但是他们从来都不站前台，而是靠媒体发动那些所谓的中产阶级去反对加税
: 这些中产被人抢了，还帮人数钱，
: 一说到要给富人和大公司加税就无比悲愤
: 一年收入不过10万出头，潜意识却把自己当富人
: 恨不得在脑门上跟穷人和minority划清界限
: 也是可笑的很
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