y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 1 美国驻华大使馆新闻发言人包日强向南都记者证实，骆家辉8月22日从成都返回北京乘
坐的是经济舱，他8月12日从西雅图飞北京就任大使，11个多小时的行程，乘坐的也是
经济舱，当时还曾引发热议。那么，美国官员在何种情况下可以乘坐公务舱、头等舱呢
？他们的公务旅行乘机是否有相关规定呢？南都记者问。包日强回应说：“美国官员乘
坐飞行时间在14小时以上的航班时通常才可以乘坐公务舱，但要视该官员是否需要在飞
行结束当天或次日报到而定。而如果三种级别的舱位都有空位的话，进行公务旅行的美
国政府官员一般不允许选择头等舱，不过，他们可以用自己日常积累的旅客积分升级到
公务舱”。
不知道是不是真的。 |
m********c
发帖数: 13337 | 2 您找找报纸和网页，哪一篇有美国部长级人物坐经济舱出差的图片。
部长就算了，有局级人物坐经济舱的吗？
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: 美国驻华大使馆新闻发言人包日强向南都记者证实，骆家辉8月22日从成都返回北京乘
: 坐的是经济舱，他8月12日从西雅图飞北京就任大使，11个多小时的行程，乘坐的也是
: 经济舱，当时还曾引发热议。那么，美国官员在何种情况下可以乘坐公务舱、头等舱呢
: ？他们的公务旅行乘机是否有相关规定呢？南都记者问。包日强回应说：“美国官员乘
: 坐飞行时间在14小时以上的航班时通常才可以乘坐公务舱，但要视该官员是否需要在飞
: 行结束当天或次日报到而定。而如果三种级别的舱位都有空位的话，进行公务旅行的美
: 国政府官员一般不允许选择头等舱，不过，他们可以用自己日常积累的旅客积分升级到
: 公务舱”。
: 不知道是不是真的。
|
z****e
发帖数: 54598 | 3 一般来说如果你官大的话，就算你定的不是头等舱，空乘人员也会让你升舱，避免造成
普通舱的混乱 |
y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 4
有可能被免费升舱了吧，所以得看买的是不是经济舱的票，坐公务舱不一定是买的公务
舱票。中国国内就是够级别的官员坐飞机，秘书事先给机场打个电话自动升成公务舱，
走VIP通道。
【在 m********c 的大作中提到】
: 您找找报纸和网页，哪一篇有美国部长级人物坐经济舱出差的图片。
: 部长就算了，有局级人物坐经济舱的吗？
|
m********c
发帖数: 13337 | 5 您的说法我同意，有里程积累可以免费升舱。
问题是您找得到哪怕是一个美国这样级别官员在美国国内坐经济舱的报道吗？
国内的航空公司基本都是星空联盟的成员，骆家辉单从美国飞北京的历程积累就够他成
都北京往返升舱的了，为什么在中国不升舱？
别说他里程积累不够啊。
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
:
: 有可能被免费升舱了吧，所以得看买的是不是经济舱的票，坐公务舱不一定是买的公务
: 舱票。中国国内就是够级别的官员坐飞机，秘书事先给机场打个电话自动升成公务舱，
: 走VIP通道。
|
o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 6 He probably does not travel that much before his China trip.
Federal Employee travel regulation, you can google it.
【在 m********c 的大作中提到】
: 您的说法我同意，有里程积累可以免费升舱。
: 问题是您找得到哪怕是一个美国这样级别官员在美国国内坐经济舱的报道吗？
: 国内的航空公司基本都是星空联盟的成员，骆家辉单从美国飞北京的历程积累就够他成
: 都北京往返升舱的了，为什么在中国不升舱？
: 别说他里程积累不够啊。
|
t**********4
发帖数: 552 | 7 米蒂阴毛---五毛逼
【在 m********c 的大作中提到】
: 您的说法我同意，有里程积累可以免费升舱。
: 问题是您找得到哪怕是一个美国这样级别官员在美国国内坐经济舱的报道吗？
: 国内的航空公司基本都是星空联盟的成员，骆家辉单从美国飞北京的历程积累就够他成
: 都北京往返升舱的了，为什么在中国不升舱？
: 别说他里程积累不够啊。
|
y*h
发帖数: 25423 | 8
看报道说是航空公司给他升公务舱、VIP通道还有专门的机场小车，但是他给拒了，和
到小餐馆吃饭是一个意思。
【在 m********c 的大作中提到】
: 您的说法我同意，有里程积累可以免费升舱。
: 问题是您找得到哪怕是一个美国这样级别官员在美国国内坐经济舱的报道吗？
: 国内的航空公司基本都是星空联盟的成员，骆家辉单从美国飞北京的历程积累就够他成
: 都北京往返升舱的了，为什么在中国不升舱？
: 别说他里程积累不够啊。
|
l**k
发帖数: 45267 | 9 我想知道骆家辉能把美国驻华使领馆下一年的预算砍掉多少
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
:
: 看报道说是航空公司给他升公务舱、VIP通道还有专门的机场小车，但是他给拒了，和
: 到小餐馆吃饭是一个意思。
|
i***z
发帖数: 7508 | 10 是不是和家属在一起，家属应该是经济舱。
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: 美国驻华大使馆新闻发言人包日强向南都记者证实，骆家辉8月22日从成都返回北京乘
: 坐的是经济舱，他8月12日从西雅图飞北京就任大使，11个多小时的行程，乘坐的也是
: 经济舱，当时还曾引发热议。那么，美国官员在何种情况下可以乘坐公务舱、头等舱呢
: ？他们的公务旅行乘机是否有相关规定呢？南都记者问。包日强回应说：“美国官员乘
: 坐飞行时间在14小时以上的航班时通常才可以乘坐公务舱，但要视该官员是否需要在飞
: 行结束当天或次日报到而定。而如果三种级别的舱位都有空位的话，进行公务旅行的美
: 国政府官员一般不允许选择头等舱，不过，他们可以用自己日常积累的旅客积分升级到
: 公务舱”。
: 不知道是不是真的。
|
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 11 The family members need pay the tickets by themselves.
【在 i***z 的大作中提到】
: 是不是和家属在一起，家属应该是经济舱。
|
i***z
发帖数: 7508 | 12 应该国家出吧， 换工作还给家属出机票那，何况是这个级别的官员？
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: The family members need pay the tickets by themselves.
|
o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 13 They will give him a relocation package.
【在 i***z 的大作中提到】
: 应该国家出吧， 换工作还给家属出机票那，何况是这个级别的官员？
|
g*q
发帖数: 26623 | 14 1500-13-00 - Premium-Class Airline Accommodations
A. General This chapter describes the policies and procedures for
authorization and approval of premium-class airline accommodations for
official travel. In accordance with the Federal Travel Regulation (FTR),
employees who perform official business travel, both domestic and
international, must use coach-class accommodations (See FTR 301-10.122).
However, there are limited exceptions when first-class or premium-class
other than first-class airline accommodations may be used (See FTR 301-10.
123 to 301-10.124).
NOTE: This chapter only addresses premium-class airline accommodations. For
information on train accommodations, see FTR 301-10.160 to 301-10.164.
NOTE: The guidance in this chapter applies to, 1) appointed officers and
employees; 2) appointed Federal Advisory Committee members and Special
Government Employees; 3) Commissioned Officers; 4) "Invitational Travelers",
i.e., nonfederal persons providing a direct service who are serving without
pay or at $1 a year; and 5) Non-FTE Persons, i.e., Visiting Fellows, IRTAs,
CRTAs, Special Volunteers, and Guest Researchers.
B. Delegations of Authority
(See NIH Manual Issuance 1130, Travel No. 15, Premium-Class Travel).
C. Definitions
1) Coach-class airline accommodations: The basic class of accommodations
offered by an air carrier to passengers which includes a level of service
that is available to all passengers regardless of the fare paid. "Coach-
class airline accommodations" apply when an airline offers two or more
classes of accommodations; which includes tourist-class accommodations and
economy-class accommodations.
2) Premium-class airline accommodations: Any class of accommodations
above coach-class, e.g., first-class or premium-class other than first-class.
3) First-class airline accommodations: The highest class of
accommodations on a multiple-class commercial air carrier. When an airline
flight has only two classes of accommodations, the higher class, regardless
of the term used for that class, is considered to be first-class.
4) Premium-class other than first-class airline accommodations: The
class of accommodations between coach-class and first-class airline
accommodations, e.g., Business class.
D. Policy
The Use of First-Class airline accommodations will only be authorized or
approved under the following circumstances:
"Reasonably Available" - Regularly scheduled flights between the
authorized origin and destination points include only first-class airline
accommodations. The use of first-class accommodations may be authorized or
approved when coach-class accommodations or premium-class other than first-
class accommodations are not reasonably available. (For purposes of this
paragraph, "reasonably available" means airline accommodations scheduled to
leave within 24 hours of the employees’ proposed departure time or
scheduled to arrive within 24 hours of employee’s proposed arrival time. "
Reasonably available" does not include any airline accommodations with a
scheduled arrival time that is later than the employee’s required reporting
time at the duty site, or with a scheduled departure time that is earlier
than the time the employee is scheduled to complete duty).
Travel by an employee with a disability or special need. The use of
first-class airline accommodations may be authorized when it is necessary to
accommodate an employee’s disability or other special need. The employee’
s condition must be substantiated in writing by a competent medical
authority. The use of first-class airline accommodations may also be
authorized for an attendant, under FTR 301-13.3(a) to accompany the employee
in order to provide the requisite services en route. (See newly established
protocol in OFM Transmittals No. 118 and 118A - click on OFM Travel
Transmittals.)
NOTE: For employees and others who have approved medical waivers --
Scenario 1) In line with either a domestic, non-foreign, or international
trip, if a carrier offers first-class and business-class seating in addition
to coach, only business class seating shall be authorized. Scenario 2) In
line with either a domestic, non-foreign, or international trip, if a
carrier offers only first-class seating in addition to coach, every effort
must be made to obtain business-class seating. The Travel Management Center
(TMC) staff will assist you in this regard. A) If there is no business class
seating available to your destination on any carrier, you may be authorized
first-class seating. B) If however, TMC is able to find a carrier with
business-class seating to your destination, then only business-class seating
shall be authorized. This policy extends to all trips, 1) strictly within
the Continental U.S.; 2) that begin in the Continental U.S. and have an
ultimate destination of either a non-foreign or international destination;
and 3) that begin overseas with an ultimate destination of a site in the
Continental U.S. or a non-foreign area. Should the trip begin overseas and
have an ultimate destination of another overseas site, due to the different
flight rules that come into play, e.g., foreign flag carrier use, limited
number of air carriers, etc., first-class seating may be authorized on a
flight w/ only two levels of seating. Otherwise, only business-class seating
may be authorized. Please be advised that the GSA City-Pair Program
Guidelines do not mandate use of a contract carrier when premium-class
accommodations are authorized. In both scenarios, mandatory use of the TMC
remains in effect unless one of the exceptions contained in NIH Manual 1500-
02-01can be applied.
Security Reasons. The use of first-class airline accommodations may
be authorized or approved when such accommodations are required for
exceptional security purposes. Exceptional security circumstances include,
but are not limited to:
Travel by employee whose use of any other class of
accommodations would endanger the employee’s life or government property;
Travel by agents on protective details and who are accompanying
individuals authorized to use first-class accommodations; or
Travel by couriers and control officers who are accompanying
controlled pouches or packages.
Agency Mission. The use of first-class airline accommodations may be
authorized or approved when required for the agency mission.
The Use of Premium-Class Other Than First-Class airline accommodations,
i.e., Business Class, may be authorized or approved under the following
circumstances:
Regularly scheduled flights. Premium-class other than first-class
airline accommodations may be authorized when regularly scheduled flights
between origin/destination points (including connecting points) provide only
premium-class accommodations and you certify such on your Travel
Authorization.
No space available in coach-class. Premium-class other than first-
class airline accommodations may be authorized when there is no space
available in coach-class accommodations in time to accomplish the mission
which is urgent and cannot be postponed;
Travel by an employee with a disability or special need. (For
corresponding guidance, see NOTE above in D(1)(b) and paragraph E(1) below);
Security reasons. Premium-class other than first-class airline
accommodations may be authorized for security purposes or exceptional
circumstances as determined by the appropriate official if the use of such
accommodations is essential to the successful performance of the IC mission;
Inadequate sanitation. Premium-class other than first-class airline
accommodations may be authorized when coach-class on foreign carriers do not
provide adequate sanitation or health standards, and the use of foreign
flag air carrier service is approved in accordance with the Fly America Act.
Overall cost savings.
Premium-class other than first-class airline accommodations may be
authorized when such accommodations would result in an overall savings to
the Government by avoiding additional subsistence costs, overtime, or lost
productive time that would be incurred while awaiting availability of coach-
class accommodations.
NOTE: The HHS Chapter 6 "Cost Analysis" form must be completed for
international and domestic trips and is to be recorded along with the NIH
Form at Appendix 8 "Individual Trip Authorization, (Non-Medical)
Authorization for Use of First class or Premium Other Than First-class
Travel Accommodations" in the IC official travel files.
Acceptance of payment from a nonfederal source.
1) First-class - Such accommodations may be authorized when, 1) one
of the conditions in FTR 301-10.123, 10.162, or 10.183 is first met; 2) the
employee’s transportation is paid in full and in advance of the travel; and
3) transportation accommodations furnished are comparable in value to those
offered to, or purchased by other similarly situation meeting attendees. (
See FTR 304-5.6 and HHS Travel Manual Chapter 1-70)
2) Premium Other Than First Class, e.g., Business Class - Such
accommodations may be authorized when, 1) one of the conditions outlined in
HHS Travel Chapter 1-70-30(A)(5) is first met; 2) the employee’s
transportation is paid in full and in advance of the travel; and 3)
transportation accommodations furnished are comparable in value to those
offered to, or purchased by other similarly situation meeting attendees. (
See FTR 304-5.5 and HHS Travel Manual Chapter 1-70)
Travel in excess of 14 hours. Premium-class other than first-class
airline accommodations may be authorized when travel is direct between
authorized origin and destination points, and either the origin or
destination point is outside the continental United States (CONUS), and the
scheduled flight time (not including domestic layover time) is in excess of
14 hours. When this authority is exercised, an employee shall not be
eligible for a rest stop en route or a rest period upon arrival at the duty
site.
NOTE: A statement must be included on the NIH Form at Appendix 8
explaining the urgency of the mission that precludes the traveler from using
coach class accommodations and taking a rest stop at an intermediate point.
("urgency" refers to the agency assignment and not personal reasons).
Agency Mission. Premium-class other than first-class airline
accommodations may be authorized when required for the agency mission. |
i***z
发帖数: 7508 | 15 那就是了，肯定是够搬家费用的， 另外大使夫人也算有外交活动的，算是为国家工作
。 比如子女上北京的国际学校，这个钱应该国家出。
在本地读中小学时不花钱的
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: They will give him a relocation package.
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g*q
发帖数: 26623 | 16 只要安保级别够了，就可以买头等或者商务舱。普通雇员当然不够级别。
14小时以上航班级别不够也可以买商务舱。 |
m********c
发帖数: 13337 | 17 美国飞北京的里程不够他升北京成都的舱的？
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: He probably does not travel that much before his China trip.
: Federal Employee travel regulation, you can google it.
|
m********c
发帖数: 13337 | 18 链接？谢谢。
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
:
: 看报道说是航空公司给他升公务舱、VIP通道还有专门的机场小车，但是他给拒了，和
: 到小餐馆吃饭是一个意思。
|
c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 19 美国是资本官僚主义，当官的受憋一点正常，公司的中层经理
飞中国出差都是公务舱，提前个把月买快4000刀的票
中国是官僚资本主义，当官的出差都公务舱，公司的经理坐经济舱
只有傻逼才会以为这俩主义对老百姓有区别
就算一个换另一个，什么时候轮得到你打工的坐公务舱？
关心这种新闻的都是脑子进水了
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: 美国驻华大使馆新闻发言人包日强向南都记者证实，骆家辉8月22日从成都返回北京乘
: 坐的是经济舱，他8月12日从西雅图飞北京就任大使，11个多小时的行程，乘坐的也是
: 经济舱，当时还曾引发热议。那么，美国官员在何种情况下可以乘坐公务舱、头等舱呢
: ？他们的公务旅行乘机是否有相关规定呢？南都记者问。包日强回应说：“美国官员乘
: 坐飞行时间在14小时以上的航班时通常才可以乘坐公务舱，但要视该官员是否需要在飞
: 行结束当天或次日报到而定。而如果三种级别的舱位都有空位的话，进行公务旅行的美
: 国政府官员一般不允许选择头等舱，不过，他们可以用自己日常积累的旅客积分升级到
: 公务舱”。
: 不知道是不是真的。
|
s****i
发帖数: 2993 | 20 depends on what airlines he flew.
on most airlines only elites or full fare passengers can upgrade, with some
kind of coupons, not miles.
【在 m********c 的大作中提到】
: 美国飞北京的里程不够他升北京成都的舱的？
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k*********t
发帖数: 2999 | 21 舍不得用掉里程数吧。
【在 m********c 的大作中提到】
: 美国飞北京的里程不够他升北京成都的舱的？
|
m********c
发帖数: 13337 | 22 这个观点狠新颖，我喜欢。赞！
【在 k*********t 的大作中提到】
: 舍不得用掉里程数吧。
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 23 Not same airline ah.
I don't think American airlines can fly Chinese domestic routes.
【在 m********c 的大作中提到】
: 美国飞北京的里程不够他升北京成都的舱的？
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m********c
发帖数: 13337 | 24 国航CA4109，成都飞北京。
骆家辉拒绝了地面VIP引导和头等舱座位。
【在 s****i 的大作中提到】
: depends on what airlines he flew.
: on most airlines only elites or full fare passengers can upgrade, with some
: kind of coupons, not miles.
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m********c
发帖数: 13337 | 25 UA和CA都是星空联盟成员，可以互换积分和分享里程。谢谢。
【在 o****y 的大作中提到】
: Not same airline ah.
: I don't think American airlines can fly Chinese domestic routes.
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m********c
发帖数: 13337 | 26 忘了件事情，因为有随时取消或更改航班的可能，美国政府职员的机票都必须是全价订
购，不可以买不能取消或更改班次的打折票。谢谢。
【在 s****i 的大作中提到】
: depends on what airlines he flew.
: on most airlines only elites or full fare passengers can upgrade, with some
: kind of coupons, not miles.
|
b*******k
发帖数: 16989 | 27 飞中国最长的才13个半小时,
惨
【在 y*h 的大作中提到】
: 美国驻华大使馆新闻发言人包日强向南都记者证实，骆家辉8月22日从成都返回北京乘
: 坐的是经济舱，他8月12日从西雅图飞北京就任大使，11个多小时的行程，乘坐的也是
: 经济舱，当时还曾引发热议。那么，美国官员在何种情况下可以乘坐公务舱、头等舱呢
: ？他们的公务旅行乘机是否有相关规定呢？南都记者问。包日强回应说：“美国官员乘
: 坐飞行时间在14小时以上的航班时通常才可以乘坐公务舱，但要视该官员是否需要在飞
: 行结束当天或次日报到而定。而如果三种级别的舱位都有空位的话，进行公务旅行的美
: 国政府官员一般不允许选择头等舱，不过，他们可以用自己日常积累的旅客积分升级到
: 公务舱”。
: 不知道是不是真的。
|
b*******k
发帖数: 16989 | 28 有.多了去了.
只不过一般没人关注这事.
如果有公务员天天坐头等舱才会像奥巴马这样出趟门都被大批媒体跟着
【在 m********c 的大作中提到】
: 您找找报纸和网页，哪一篇有美国部长级人物坐经济舱出差的图片。
: 部长就算了，有局级人物坐经济舱的吗？
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