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w**********g
发帖数: 1985
1
南方带路党民猪编辑亲自上阵在纽约时报发文,呼吁制裁中国
作者: 这就是带路党(楚.寨.绿.石) [177664:5663], 10:19:03
Why China Won’t Listen
By CHEN MIN
Guangzhou, China
THE Chinese government often tolerates, and even encourages, abuses of
power and extrajudicial punishments by law enforcement officials. These are
the underlying evils that sustain a regime that values its own preservation
above all else, including human rights and the rule of law. .
But how is this possible in a world where outsiders feel free to
criticize China’s human rights record? Why does the Chinese government
respond to some forms of protest, while stonily ignoring others? The answer
can be found in the way the Chinese leaders, at all levels, think about
their authority, their reputations and their power.
Consider the case of Chen Guangcheng, a human rights advocate who has
been under house arrest with his family in Shandong Province. Recently, the
public received news that his 6-year-old daughter would be allowed to leave
the house to attend school, a concession that seemed to signal more lenient
treatment.
But then, on Oct. 23, a group of Internet activists who had set out to
visit him were brutally attacked by a local mob. Witnesses who described
the attack on the Internet said it appeared to have been well planned — a
sign that Mr. Chen’s ordeal was not yet over.
Why won’t the authorities simply let Mr. Chen and his family go? The
most critical reason is mianzi, or “face,” as it is usually translated in
English.
The authorities know that what they have been doing is unjust and
illegal. But they saw the gathering of activists as an affront, and
responded harshly because the government could not afford to lose face —
which would undermine its power in the public’s eyes.
Petty cruelties and crackdowns are everyday occurrences in today’s
China. Officials, especially low-level ones, have never cultivated respect
for the rule of law, due process or habeas corpus.
If they were held accountable for strictly following the law in all
cases, most would probably lose their jobs, bringing the state apparatus at
the local level to a halt and endangering the system of government control.
That is why, even though the powerful know what lesser officials do, they
usually turn a blind eye — as long as they can cover up the misdeeds and
the public doesn’t become outraged.
When public outrage does ensue, another mechanism of control —
intervention by senior officials — sometimes occurs. That happened in
September 2010 after a man set himself on fire to protest a building
demolition in Jiangxi Province. High-level leaders fired a party boss and
mayor for negligence.
But the case of Mr. Chen evidently didn’t qualify for such
intervention, because another rule of power in China came into play: Never
seem to bend to the demands of foreign powers. In such cases, it is the
central government that digs in its heels, and the louder the outcry grows,
the worse the situation becomes. In the government’s eyes, there is a stark
difference between a homegrown problem like the one in Jiangxi and a case
like Mr. Chen’s, in which the government perceives foreign meddling.
Congress has passed an amendment expressing support for Mr. Chen, and
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton recently criticized his house
arrest in a speech. China saw these developments as an intolerable slap in
the face.
Beijing does not indiscriminately reject all such “interference”;
China and the United States conduct a dialogue on human rights through
diplomatic channels. But Chinese leaders believe such dialogue belongs
behind closed doors.
The Chinese are saying to Americans, if you grant me face, I can be
reasonable; if solving the problem will help me, I’ll consider it. But don
’t expect me to make concessions under pressure.
Such concessions would call into question the regime’s legitimacy.
And once the issue is survival, the government is in effect cornered,
leaving it no choice but to resort to drastic measures from which nothing —
sense, humanity or law — can dissuade it.
The problem turns into one of “sovereignty,” which in the Chinese
government’s vocabulary means the absolute, non-negotiable right to rule
over a billion subjects. When sovereignty is in play, there is no longer a
right or wrong side of an issue, just winning or losing.
A similar logic was involved 22 years ago at Tiananmen Square. The
protesters there asked for nothing more than dialogue, but the government
stubbornly refused because it didn’t want to set a precedent. To Chinese
leaders, “governing” means absolute control. Allowing the people to become
a rival to the government might bring down the system. ...华
The same is true in Mr. Chen’s case, but with an important difference
demand at home. Today it refuses to set a precedent of yielding to American
pressure.
China and the United States have been discussing human rights issues
for so many years that it is baffling that American leaders remain so
clueless about the Chinese government’s mind-set. Previous high-profile
cases were resolved behind the scenes. Mr. Chen’s case should have been
approached this way, too — not through public pressure.
I welcome American politicians’ concerns about China’s human rights
situation. But I have one request: please be a bit more considerate, a bit
more flexible, and a bit more tactful about our leaders’ mind-set. That way
, you — and we — might have more success.
Chen Min is a former editorial writer for Southern Weekend newspaper
and a former managing editor of China Reform magazine. This essay was
translated by David Liu from the Chinese.
d******g
发帖数: 6966
2
中国真是自由到爆了。。那个美国人敢跑到中国报纸上写这样关于美国的文章直接第二
天被红脖乱枪爆头
w*********g
发帖数: 30882
3
c******k
发帖数: 8998
4
这个人?
m********5
发帖数: 17667
5
真民主以后这傻逼要被民主政府追杀的

of
are
preservation

【在 w**********g 的大作中提到】
: 南方带路党民猪编辑亲自上阵在纽约时报发文,呼吁制裁中国
: 作者: 这就是带路党(楚.寨.绿.石) [177664:5663], 10:19:03
: Why China Won’t Listen
: By CHEN MIN
: Guangzhou, China
: THE Chinese government often tolerates, and even encourages, abuses of
: power and extrajudicial punishments by law enforcement officials. These are
: the underlying evils that sustain a regime that values its own preservation
: above all else, including human rights and the rule of law. .
: But how is this possible in a world where outsiders feel free to

c*****i
发帖数: 11737
6
正应了某摩门教徒的话,摩门教徒昨天发话,今天条Pussy就出来现身说法,很好

of
are
preservation

【在 w**********g 的大作中提到】
: 南方带路党民猪编辑亲自上阵在纽约时报发文,呼吁制裁中国
: 作者: 这就是带路党(楚.寨.绿.石) [177664:5663], 10:19:03
: Why China Won’t Listen
: By CHEN MIN
: Guangzhou, China
: THE Chinese government often tolerates, and even encourages, abuses of
: power and extrajudicial punishments by law enforcement officials. These are
: the underlying evils that sustain a regime that values its own preservation
: above all else, including human rights and the rule of law. .
: But how is this possible in a world where outsiders feel free to

s******y
发帖数: 28562
7
有些人好像很怕别人看到这篇文章啊。
既然都能发在纽约时报,为什么那么怕华人看到呢?

of
are
preservation

【在 w**********g 的大作中提到】
: 南方带路党民猪编辑亲自上阵在纽约时报发文,呼吁制裁中国
: 作者: 这就是带路党(楚.寨.绿.石) [177664:5663], 10:19:03
: Why China Won’t Listen
: By CHEN MIN
: Guangzhou, China
: THE Chinese government often tolerates, and even encourages, abuses of
: power and extrajudicial punishments by law enforcement officials. These are
: the underlying evils that sustain a regime that values its own preservation
: above all else, including human rights and the rule of law. .
: But how is this possible in a world where outsiders feel free to

m***6
发帖数: 8479
8
真是贱b不要脸无极限

of
are
preservation

【在 w**********g 的大作中提到】
: 南方带路党民猪编辑亲自上阵在纽约时报发文,呼吁制裁中国
: 作者: 这就是带路党(楚.寨.绿.石) [177664:5663], 10:19:03
: Why China Won’t Listen
: By CHEN MIN
: Guangzhou, China
: THE Chinese government often tolerates, and even encourages, abuses of
: power and extrajudicial punishments by law enforcement officials. These are
: the underlying evils that sustain a regime that values its own preservation
: above all else, including human rights and the rule of law. .
: But how is this possible in a world where outsiders feel free to

w*********g
发帖数: 30882
9
ding
w**********g
发帖数: 1985
10
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w*********g
发帖数: 30882
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w****2
发帖数: 12072
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此人是笑蜀吧? 大汉奸

of
are
preservation

【在 w**********g 的大作中提到】
: 南方带路党民猪编辑亲自上阵在纽约时报发文,呼吁制裁中国
: 作者: 这就是带路党(楚.寨.绿.石) [177664:5663], 10:19:03
: Why China Won’t Listen
: By CHEN MIN
: Guangzhou, China
: THE Chinese government often tolerates, and even encourages, abuses of
: power and extrajudicial punishments by law enforcement officials. These are
: the underlying evils that sustain a regime that values its own preservation
: above all else, including human rights and the rule of law. .
: But how is this possible in a world where outsiders feel free to

l*****o
发帖数: 9235
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真是越来越理解当年反右,整风运动了。 想想秦脍,汪精卫亦不过如此。
h****n
发帖数: 2552
14
小将为什么不去爆这厮的头?
g*******1
发帖数: 6009
15
谁怕了,
这么好的文章,看到的人越多越好
没有一句话是不能光明正大的摆在台面上的.
顶!

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 有些人好像很怕别人看到这篇文章啊。
: 既然都能发在纽约时报,为什么那么怕华人看到呢?
:
: of
: are
: preservation

g*******1
发帖数: 6009
16
制裁什么?

of
are
preservation

【在 w**********g 的大作中提到】
: 南方带路党民猪编辑亲自上阵在纽约时报发文,呼吁制裁中国
: 作者: 这就是带路党(楚.寨.绿.石) [177664:5663], 10:19:03
: Why China Won’t Listen
: By CHEN MIN
: Guangzhou, China
: THE Chinese government often tolerates, and even encourages, abuses of
: power and extrajudicial punishments by law enforcement officials. These are
: the underlying evils that sustain a regime that values its own preservation
: above all else, including human rights and the rule of law. .
: But how is this possible in a world where outsiders feel free to

s******y
发帖数: 28562
17
刚才有个老将为了不让人看到这个帖子,在这里贴了好多裸体图片
(不是你干的吧?)

【在 g*******1 的大作中提到】
: 谁怕了,
: 这么好的文章,看到的人越多越好
: 没有一句话是不能光明正大的摆在台面上的.
: 顶!

w*********g
发帖数: 30882
18
d*******i
发帖数: 1423
19
南方带路党必将遗臭万年
z*******n
发帖数: 15481
20
这种人民主之后就立马暴尸街头
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v****d
发帖数: 2300
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ft,丫永世长存啊

【在 d*******i 的大作中提到】
: 南方带路党必将遗臭万年
e*******n
发帖数: 4912
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南方带路党必将遗臭万年
h****o
发帖数: 2455
23
呵呵,全文没有制裁的意思吧。
s********g
发帖数: 15
24
哪里说要制裁中国了? 文章大意是中共要面子,所以美国最好不要公开批评中国。

of
are
preservation

【在 w**********g 的大作中提到】
: 南方带路党民猪编辑亲自上阵在纽约时报发文,呼吁制裁中国
: 作者: 这就是带路党(楚.寨.绿.石) [177664:5663], 10:19:03
: Why China Won’t Listen
: By CHEN MIN
: Guangzhou, China
: THE Chinese government often tolerates, and even encourages, abuses of
: power and extrajudicial punishments by law enforcement officials. These are
: the underlying evils that sustain a regime that values its own preservation
: above all else, including human rights and the rule of law. .
: But how is this possible in a world where outsiders feel free to

V******B
发帖数: 3940
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加班费多不?
这么卖力,从早到晚上都在mitbbs上泡着

of
are
preservation

【在 w**********g 的大作中提到】
: 南方带路党民猪编辑亲自上阵在纽约时报发文,呼吁制裁中国
: 作者: 这就是带路党(楚.寨.绿.石) [177664:5663], 10:19:03
: Why China Won’t Listen
: By CHEN MIN
: Guangzhou, China
: THE Chinese government often tolerates, and even encourages, abuses of
: power and extrajudicial punishments by law enforcement officials. These are
: the underlying evils that sustain a regime that values its own preservation
: above all else, including human rights and the rule of law. .
: But how is this possible in a world where outsiders feel free to

w**********g
发帖数: 1985
26
w**********g
发帖数: 1985
27
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