b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 1 Why Can't America Have Great Trains?
http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/amtrak-acela-high-speed
Thirty-nine minutes into his southbound ride from Wilmington, Delaware, to
Washington, D.C., Joseph H. Boardman, president and CEO of Amtrak, begins to
cry. We're in the dining car of a train called the Silver Star, surrounded
by people eating hamburgers. The Silver Star runs from New York City to
Miami in 31 hours, or five more hours than the route took in 1958, which is
when our dining car was built. Boardman and I have been discussing the
unfortunate fact that 45 years since its inception, the company he oversees
remains a poorly funded, largely neglected ward of the state, unable to
fully control its own finances or make its own decisions. I ask him, "Is
this a frustrating job?" |
b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 2 the US Government could spend $10 Trillion on trains, and they wouldn’t
work properly. |
b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 3 "If it Moves, Tax it.
If it Keeps Moving, Regulate it.
And if it Stops Moving, Subsidize it." |
b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 4 By 2020 China will have 12,000 miles of high speed rail.
By 2020 the US will have none.
But we will have occupied and "rebuilt" Afghanistan. Occupied, disastrously,
Iraq. And, under any republican now running, we will soon be in Adelson's
War with
Iran. |
b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 5 The failure of Congress to fund America's crumbing infrastructure is a
national disgrace. Year after year, engineers and other experts rate the U.S
. infrastructure in terms of dangers and failures, and year after year
Congress (meaning primarily Republicans) turn a blind eye to something that
impacts almost every single American. How many disaster will it take? The
Republicans through their sequester slashed funding for the NIH and medical
research and then became hysterical with Ebola panic. Bridges, roads, rail
systems and airports are in desperate need of repair. |
l*******2 发帖数: 2550 | 6 这个是60-70年前美国建立的基础交通,现在看来有改进的必要,毕竟基建系统能够有
60-70年的超前性,也不错了。
但是美国确实不如中国容易,中国印钞票就行,剥削屁民就行,美帝没有这个自由,慢
慢来吧,不能又让马儿跑,又让马儿不吃草 |
l*******2 发帖数: 2550 | 7 中国铁路负债率很高的,是民主国家的话,非常难以通过预案。
况且,铁路拆迁背后人命案也不少(抗强拆),钱花了也很多(2万多亿负债,平均每
个中国人2000人民币),领导自己也进去了(刘志军), 人民铁路出行增高了个100%
以上。
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【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The failure of Congress to fund America's crumbing infrastructure is a : national disgrace. Year after year, engineers and other experts rate the U.S : . infrastructure in terms of dangers and failures, and year after year : Congress (meaning primarily Republicans) turn a blind eye to something that : impacts almost every single American. How many disaster will it take? The : Republicans through their sequester slashed funding for the NIH and medical : research and then became hysterical with Ebola panic. Bridges, roads, rail : systems and airports are in desperate need of repair.
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w****r 发帖数: 15252 | 8 你在开玩笑吧,美国不剥削屁民?你每年交的tax去哪里了,都去food stamp了好不好
产党是标标准准当婊子,当的很专业的
美国是当着婊子还要立牌坊的那种,有没有自由,民主党分分钟要你的AA要你的税
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个是60-70年前美国建立的基础交通,现在看来有改进的必要,毕竟基建系统能够有 : 60-70年的超前性,也不错了。 : 但是美国确实不如中国容易,中国印钞票就行,剥削屁民就行,美帝没有这个自由,慢 : 慢来吧,不能又让马儿跑,又让马儿不吃草
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l*******2 发帖数: 2550 | 9 这就是我老喜欢民主的原因,当官的doesn't get whatever you wanted, you need to
get approval from most of the 屁民 |
l*******2 发帖数: 2550 | 10 去food stamp了,政府又不是没有告诉你,大多数屁民都同意政府这么收钱这么花,你
悲愤没有用
在天朝那么多人得个大病就全家破产了,路有饿死民工,你很开心见到? |
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b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 11 你又胡说八道了吧。美国不印钞票? 美国没钱创新交通,但是有钱发动战争侵略其他
国家。
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个是60-70年前美国建立的基础交通,现在看来有改进的必要,毕竟基建系统能够有 : 60-70年的超前性,也不错了。 : 但是美国确实不如中国容易,中国印钞票就行,剥削屁民就行,美帝没有这个自由,慢 : 慢来吧,不能又让马儿跑,又让马儿不吃草
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f*********t 发帖数: 11092 | 12 美国的人口连中国的零头都不到
中国14亿人里面的90%以上挤在400万平方公里土地上生存
美国3亿人有900万平方公里可利用的土地供自由迁徙
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【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Why Can't America Have Great Trains? : http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/amtrak-acela-high-speed : Thirty-nine minutes into his southbound ride from Wilmington, Delaware, to : Washington, D.C., Joseph H. Boardman, president and CEO of Amtrak, begins to : cry. We're in the dining car of a train called the Silver Star, surrounded : by people eating hamburgers. The Silver Star runs from New York City to : Miami in 31 hours, or five more hours than the route took in 1958, which is : when our dining car was built. Boardman and I have been discussing the : unfortunate fact that 45 years since its inception, the company he oversees : remains a poorly funded, largely neglected ward of the state, unable to
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n***j 发帖数: 1747 | 13 美国不印钞票?那尼玛QE的钱哪里来的?
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 这个是60-70年前美国建立的基础交通,现在看来有改进的必要,毕竟基建系统能够有 : 60-70年的超前性,也不错了。 : 但是美国确实不如中国容易,中国印钞票就行,剥削屁民就行,美帝没有这个自由,慢 : 慢来吧,不能又让马儿跑,又让马儿不吃草
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w****r 发帖数: 15252 | 14 政府敢说实话吗?敢告诉屁民拿钱买选票不
这个就是政府立好看的贞节牌坊给屁民,告诉你们做的都是“对”的
然后议员大爷们好继续吃香喝辣的,制定法律明抢,然后告诉你这个是民主自由的象征
TMD的还不如产党婊子后面偷偷拿呢。
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 去food stamp了,政府又不是没有告诉你,大多数屁民都同意政府这么收钱这么花,你 : 悲愤没有用 : 在天朝那么多人得个大病就全家破产了,路有饿死民工,你很开心见到?
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b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 15 WE AS A NATION HAVE STAND UP TO OUR GOVERNMENT AND DEMAND A BETTER, 21 ST
CENTURY INFRASTRUCTURE, like they have in Japan and China, and most of
Europe! Our roads are filled with potholes, our trains run at 25% the speed
and efficiency of other countries, and for heavens sake, lets start burying
those power lines! We are no longer in the 19th century!
High speed trains will save energy, time and link communities around the
country. China just built a 3000 mile high speed rail that spans across
China. Why can't we have a high speed train between LA and NY, via Chicago
and other cities along the way? Would a project of this magnitude not create
millions of jobs? Or is WAR what we are all about? |
n***j 发帖数: 1747 | 16 我对美国选举有一点实在不理解
尼玛竟然不准查看/核准投票人的ID
为了选上真是什么都敢啊
【在 w****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 政府敢说实话吗?敢告诉屁民拿钱买选票不 : 这个就是政府立好看的贞节牌坊给屁民,告诉你们做的都是“对”的 : 然后议员大爷们好继续吃香喝辣的,制定法律明抢,然后告诉你这个是民主自由的象征 : TMD的还不如产党婊子后面偷偷拿呢。
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b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 18 Isn't it time for us to stop our unnecessary involvements overseas, our
prolonged troop deployments in Germany, Japan, etc., and the trillions of
dollars that we have given to friend and foe (including ones that truly hate
us)?
I love this country, fought in two wars as a volunteer, appreciate the fact
that it took in my ancestors and allowed them to reach for an secure a piece
of the American Dream.
But we are in trouble. We now only are only first in the size of our
military (good!) , the highest rate of imprisonment in the world (bad), and
the number of patents (good). But, in addition to the failing infrastructure
, we no longer are first in health care, education, quality of life,
relative economic parity, and the list could go on and on.
Those that deny this are fooling themselves or lying to us. The disrepair of
our infrastructure is symbolic
Sorry for the long post, I am just so tired of our "leaders" doing such a
poor job. |
f*********t 发帖数: 11092 | 19 先得人口密度达到 法国 德国 日本这种,再建高铁也不迟
问题是美国人口密度也就是法国的四分之一,德国的六分之一,日本的十分之一吧。。。
【在 b******i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 美国太少人了,再移民多几个亿建高铁才能赚钱
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b********n 发帖数: 38600 | 20 Americans are so proud of themselves they are blinded by the truth that many
of their systems are broken. The railroad system is just one of them. Their
Justice system is broken (see law enforcement abuse). Their War on Drugs is
misguided and corrupt (see anti-marijuana laws). Their education system is
dysfunctional (see comparisons with other countries). Their food system is
broken (see overweight statistics). They have a gang problem they don't want
to solve!
They even allow insurance companies to make government force people to pay
auto insurance!! That's legal "mobster protection money!" They even have
deductibles when you already pay the premiums!!! Dang!! That's evil!
In America, it's legal to have crumbling railroad systems and mobster
protection money/ |
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w****r 发帖数: 15252 | 21 这个就是老将们选择性失明
老将们要努力了,嘴上民主流亡派的饭钱你们还没挣出来呢
墨西哥大妈的菜钱你们也还没有挣出来呢,就不要老BBB产党了
【在 n***j 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我对美国选举有一点实在不理解 : 尼玛竟然不准查看/核准投票人的ID : 为了选上真是什么都敢啊
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j******g 发帖数: 2689 | 22 美国建筑工人要价太高了,一个中学的篮球场加一个梯形看台可以搞四五个月,换扇窗子
要价几千刀,无力吐糟. |
l********k 发帖数: 14844 | 23 说到底是从中国和欧洲这样的肥猪身上抽来的
【在 n***j 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 美国不印钞票?那尼玛QE的钱哪里来的?
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w*********r 发帖数: 42116 | 24 "是民主国家的话,非常难以通过预案。"
美国政府一直是议会通过后,欠债过日子的。
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 中国铁路负债率很高的,是民主国家的话,非常难以通过预案。 : 况且,铁路拆迁背后人命案也不少(抗强拆),钱花了也很多(2万多亿负债,平均每 : 个中国人2000人民币),领导自己也进去了(刘志军), 人民铁路出行增高了个100% : 以上。 : : .S : that : medical
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l***o 发帖数: 7937 | 25 原因在这。
近期,一则来自京沪高铁公司的消息引起媒体关注:2014年京沪高铁运送旅客超过1亿
人次,比上年同期增长27%,首次实现盈利。世界上绝大多数的高铁都在亏本运营。京
沪为什么能够盈利,而且是运营3年多就实现盈利?如果考察历史,我们会发现,从全
世界范围来看,一条高铁盈利并不足为怪,但是在全国范围内盈利就鲜有先例。
北京交通大学经济管理学院教授赵坚认为,中国高铁亏损严重。据他估算,2013年中国
铁路总公司(简称中国铁总)负债3.2万亿元人民币,其中至少2万亿是建设高铁产生的
债务。按5%的利率计算,铁总每年支付的利息就高达1000亿元,而2013年高铁运营收入
约为666亿元(官方未公布有关数字)。这意味中国高铁的全部收入还不够支付建设的
利息。《中国铁路总公司审计报告》显示,铁总今年第二季度新增债务1600亿元,总负
债达到3.43万亿元,其规模相当于台湾全年的GDP。赵坚表示,目前中国全部高铁线路
中仅京沪高铁一条实现盈亏平衡,但京沪高铁属于中国高铁的特例,因为京沪一线处于
中国经济最发达、人口最为稠密的地区。即便如此,未来能否实现盈亏平衡也存在变数。
中国的高铁可能避免日本的灾难性亏损吗?从现在来看,重蹈日本覆辙的可能性极大。
一个可供比较的数据是,截至2014年12月底,中国时速达200公里以上的高速铁路新线
运营里程已经达到19369.8公里,但盈利的京沪高铁却只有1318公里。而且在可以预见
的将来,亏损的高铁线路会越来越多,因为现今的高铁线路主要是集中在人口集中的经
济发达地区和核心城市,随着高铁建设和运营呈网络状,高铁将会逐步通向人口稀少的
边远地区,很显然,这些地区的高铁能否盈利,是一个很大疑问。
事实上,不仅是高铁存在这个问题,高速公路建设也呈现了这种现象。尽管那些连
接主干城市的高速公路线路还是盈利,但是从全国层面看,高速公路修得越多亏损额却
越大。从2011年到2013年,全国高速公路的亏损额分别为323亿元、566亿元和661亿元。
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【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Why Can't America Have Great Trains? : http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/amtrak-acela-high-speed : Thirty-nine minutes into his southbound ride from Wilmington, Delaware, to : Washington, D.C., Joseph H. Boardman, president and CEO of Amtrak, begins to : cry. We're in the dining car of a train called the Silver Star, surrounded : by people eating hamburgers. The Silver Star runs from New York City to : Miami in 31 hours, or five more hours than the route took in 1958, which is : when our dining car was built. Boardman and I have been discussing the : unfortunate fact that 45 years since its inception, the company he oversees : remains a poorly funded, largely neglected ward of the state, unable to
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n**********n 发帖数: 984 | 26 中国的交通系统是专制的产物,民主国家不需要这些东西。 |
l***o 发帖数: 7937 | 27 民主国家会作投入产出分析,专制国家党说了算,然后全民买单。
【在 n**********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 中国的交通系统是专制的产物,民主国家不需要这些东西。
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l***o 发帖数: 7937 | 28 所谓我来做主,你来买单。
【在 l*******2 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 中国铁路负债率很高的,是民主国家的话,非常难以通过预案。 : 况且,铁路拆迁背后人命案也不少(抗强拆),钱花了也很多(2万多亿负债,平均每 : 个中国人2000人民币),领导自己也进去了(刘志军), 人民铁路出行增高了个100% : 以上。 : : .S : that : medical
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x****y 发帖数: 1853 | 29 simple answer: oil interest owns the congress.
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【在 b********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Why Can't America Have Great Trains? : http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/amtrak-acela-high-speed : Thirty-nine minutes into his southbound ride from Wilmington, Delaware, to : Washington, D.C., Joseph H. Boardman, president and CEO of Amtrak, begins to : cry. We're in the dining car of a train called the Silver Star, surrounded : by people eating hamburgers. The Silver Star runs from New York City to : Miami in 31 hours, or five more hours than the route took in 1958, which is : when our dining car was built. Boardman and I have been discussing the : unfortunate fact that 45 years since its inception, the company he oversees : remains a poorly funded, largely neglected ward of the state, unable to
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