c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 1 两名SEAL来自SEAL一大队（基地在加州和夏威夷）
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Jesse D. Pittman, 27
, of Ukiah, Calif., and
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 2nd Class (SEAL) Nicholas P. Spehar,
24, of Saint Paul, Minn.
15名SEAL来自SEAL二大队（基地在Virginia Beach）
Lt. Cmdr. (SEAL) Jonas B. Kelsall, 32, of Shreveport, La.,
Special Warfare Operator Master Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Louis J. Langlais
, 44, of Santa Barbara, Calif.,
Special Warfare Operator Senior Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Thomas A.
Ratzlaff, 34, of Green Forest, Ark.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Brian R. Bill, 31, of
Stamford, Conn.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) John W. Faas, 31, of
Minneapolis, Minn.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Kevin A. Houston, 35, of
West Hyannisport, Mass.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Matthew D. Mason, 37, of
Kansas City, Mo.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Stephen M. Mills, 35, of
Fort Worth, Texas,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Robert J. Reeves, 32, of
Shreveport, La.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Heath M. Robinson, 34,
of Detroit, Mich.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Darrik C. Benson, 28
, of Angwin, Calif.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL/Parachutist)
Christopher G. Campbell, 36, of Jacksonville, N.C.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL/Enlisted Surface
Warfare Specialist) Jon T. Tumilson, 35, of Rockford, Iowa,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Aaron C. Vaughn, 30,
of Stuart, Fla.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Jason R. Workman, 32
, of Blanding, Utah.,
另有5名来自海军的专业人员：
Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Senior Chief Petty Officer (
Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Kraig M. Vickers 36,
of Kokomo, Hawaii,
Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Chief Petty Officer (Expeditionary
Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist/Diver) Nicholas H. Null, 30, of
Washington, W.Va.,
Information Systems Technician Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary
Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Jared W. Day, 28, of Taylorsville,
Utah,
Master-at-Arms Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist)
John Douangdara, 26, of South Sioux City, Neb., and
Cryptologist Technician (Collection) Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary
Warfare Specialist) Michael J. Strange, 25, of Philadelphia, Pa.
以上人员是否属于海豹6不得而知，不过本地报纸报道其中最后一个那个海军的密码专
家时说他是海豹6的
所以有可能以上22名海军都是海豹6。
无论如何，其中大部分属于海豹6应该是比较可能的，理由是阵亡的三名空军均来自第
24特战中队
这是空军的Tier 1，只和三角洲或者海豹6配合行动的：
Tech. Sgt. John W. Brown, 33, of Tallahassee, Fla.;
Staff Sgt. Andrew W. Harvell, 26, of Long Beach, Calif.; and
Tech. Sgt. Daniel L. Zerbe, 28, of York, Pa.
最为诡异的是5名机组人员，既不是来自通常配合海豹6行动的陆军第160特航团，也不
是一些媒体说的从第10山地师
临时抽调的，而要么来自第135陆航团（科罗拉多国民警卫队，之前部署于伊拉克），
要么来自第158陆航团（预备役）
听上去更像是好莱坞电影里常有的找来几个老兵敢死队开一架指定要被干下来的飞机……
机组人员名单：
Chief Warrant Officer David R. Carter, 47, of Centennial, Colo. He was
assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 135th Aviation Regiment (General Support
Aviation Battalion), Aurora, Colo.;
Chief Warrant Officer Bryan J. Nichols, 31, of Hays, Kan. He was assigned
to the 7th Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation
Battalion), New Century, Kan.;
Sgt. Patrick D. Hamburger, 30, of Lincoln, Neb. He was assigned to the 2nd
Battalion, 135th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion),
Grand Island, Neb.;
Sgt. Alexander J. Bennett, 24, of Tacoma, Wash. He was assigned to the 7th
Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New
Century, Kan.; and
Spc. Spencer C. Duncan, 21, of Olathe, Kan. He was assigned to the 7th
Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New
Century, Kan.
另外就是7名阿富汗特种兵外加一名翻译 | N****w
发帖数: 21578 | 2 hehe 米帝灭口的招数比 TG 高太多了
两名SEAL来自SEAL一大队（基地在加州和夏威夷）
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Jesse D. Pittman, 27
, of Ukiah, Calif., and
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 2nd Class (SEAL) Nicholas P. Spehar,
24, of Saint Paul, Minn.
15名SEAL来自SEAL二大队（基地在Virginia Beach）
Lt. Cmdr. (SEAL) Jonas B. Kelsall, 32, of Shreveport, La.,
Special Warfare Operator Master Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Louis J. Langlais
, 44, of Santa Barbara, Calif.,
Special Warfare Operator Senior Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Thomas A.
Ratzlaff, 34, of Green Forest, Ark.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Brian R. Bill, 31, of
Stamford, Conn.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) John W. Faas, 31, of
Minneapolis, Minn.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Kevin A. Houston, 35, of
West Hyannisport, Mass.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Matthew D. Mason, 37, of
Kansas City, Mo.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Stephen M. Mills, 35, of
Fort Worth, Texas,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Robert J. Reeves, 32, of
Shreveport, La.,
Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Heath M. Robinson, 34,
of Detroit, Mich.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Darrik C. Benson, 28
, of Angwin, Calif.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL/Parachutist)
Christopher G. Campbell, 36, of Jacksonville, N.C.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL/Enlisted Surface
Warfare Specialist) Jon T. Tumilson, 35, of Rockford, Iowa,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Aaron C. Vaughn, 30,
of Stuart, Fla.,
Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Jason R. Workman, 32
, of Blanding, Utah.,
另有5名来自海军的专业人员：
Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Senior Chief Petty Officer (
Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Kraig M. Vickers 36,
of Kokomo, Hawaii,
Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Chief Petty Officer (Expeditionary
Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist/Diver) Nicholas H. Null, 30, of
Washington, W.Va.,
Information Systems Technician Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary
Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Jared W. Day, 28, of Taylorsville,
Utah,
Master-at-Arms Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary Warfare Specialist)
John Douangdara, 26, of South Sioux City, Neb., and
Cryptologist Technician (Collection) Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary
Warfare Specialist) Michael J. Strange, 25, of Philadelphia, Pa.
以上人员是否属于海豹6不得而知，不过本地报纸报道其中最后一个那个海军的密码专
家时说他是海豹6的
所以有可能以上22名海军都是海豹6。
无论如何，其中大部分属于海豹6应该是比较可能的，理由是阵亡的三名空军均来自第
24特战中队
这是空军的Tier 1，只和三角洲或者海豹6配合行动的：
Tech. Sgt. John W. Brown, 33, of Tallahassee, Fla.;
Staff Sgt. Andrew W. Harvell, 26, of Long Beach, Calif.; and
Tech. Sgt. Daniel L. Zerbe, 28, of York, Pa.
最为诡异的是5名机组人员，既不是来自通常配合海豹6行动的陆军第160特航团，也不
是一些媒体说的从第10山地师
临时抽调的，而要么来自第135陆航团（科罗拉多国民警卫队，之前部署于伊拉克），
要么来自第158陆航团（预备役）
听上去更像是好莱坞电影里常有的找来几个老兵敢死队开一架指定要被干下来的飞机……
机组人员名单：
Chief Warrant Officer David R. Carter, 47, of Centennial, Colo. He was
assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 135th Aviation Regiment (General Support
Aviation Battalion), Aurora, Colo.;
Chief Warrant Officer Bryan J. Nichols, 31, of Hays, Kan. He was assigned
to the 7th Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation
Battalion), New Century, Kan.;
Sgt. Patrick D. Hamburger, 30, of Lincoln, Neb. He was assigned to the 2nd
Battalion, 135th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion),
Grand Island, Neb.;
Sgt. Alexander J. Bennett, 24, of Tacoma, Wash. He was assigned to the 7th
Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New
Century, Kan.; and
Spc. Spencer C. Duncan, 21, of Olathe, Kan. He was assigned to the 7th
Battalion, 158th Aviation Regiment (General Support Aviation Battalion), New
Century, Kan.
另外就是7名阿富汗特种兵外加一名翻译
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: 两名SEAL来自SEAL一大队（基地在加州和夏威夷）
: Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Jesse D. Pittman, 27
: , of Ukiah, Calif., and
: Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 2nd Class (SEAL) Nicholas P. Spehar,
: 24, of Saint Paul, Minn.
: 15名SEAL来自SEAL二大队（基地在Virginia Beach）
: Lt. Cmdr. (SEAL) Jonas B. Kelsall, 32, of Shreveport, La.,
: Special Warfare Operator Master Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Louis J. Langlais
: , 44, of Santa Barbara, Calif.,
: Special Warfare Operator Senior Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Thomas A.
| s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 3 30多个人，只有一个少校带队，其它没有一个军官啊。
不管你信不信，我信了。。。 | a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 4 这个master chief和senior chief好像军队里地位很高的吧
属于另外一个ladder的？
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】
: 30多个人，只有一个少校带队，其它没有一个军官啊。
: 不管你信不信，我信了。。。
| c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 5 美海军的Master Chief Petty Officer相当于我军的二级军士长
Senior Chief Petty Officer相当于三级军士长
都属于类似我军的志愿兵，就是服役时间较长，经过专业培训
在某个专业上行驶军官职能，待遇也比较高，但不属于军官
美军的军官和士兵分的很清楚，除了极少数之外，军官必须有大学文凭
就算那极少数个例，也必须之后拿下大学文凭，否则不能晋升中尉
这个不是说你当兵年限够了就自动能转干的，兵就是兵，当一辈子也还是兵
至于SEAL，作战人员当然是以兵为主，军官带着一队军官去打仗就搞笑了……
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: 这个master chief和senior chief好像军队里地位很高的吧
: 属于另外一个ladder的？
| a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 6 这个算士官？
总军士长待遇赶上将军了
平时管着训练，战时才听军官的
【在 c*********r 的大作中提到】
: 美海军的Master Chief Petty Officer相当于我军的二级军士长
: Senior Chief Petty Officer相当于三级军士长
: 都属于类似我军的志愿兵，就是服役时间较长，经过专业培训
: 在某个专业上行驶军官职能，待遇也比较高，但不属于军官
: 美军的军官和士兵分的很清楚，除了极少数之外，军官必须有大学文凭
: 就算那极少数个例，也必须之后拿下大学文凭，否则不能晋升中尉
: 这个不是说你当兵年限够了就自动能转干的，兵就是兵，当一辈子也还是兵
: 至于SEAL，作战人员当然是以兵为主，军官带着一队军官去打仗就搞笑了……
| s**********d
发帖数: 36899 | 7
是，他们是志愿兵，不是军校出来的所以不能成为领兵的军官。
只能做辅助职位。master chief是最高等级，至少十几年才能，还要批准。
SEAL里因为大多是军龄很长的兵所以chiefs很多。。。要是在船上
他们就是enlisted的头。
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: 这个master chief和senior chief好像军队里地位很高的吧
: 属于另外一个ladder的？
| c*********r
发帖数: 19468 | 8 嗯，之前我说错了，Master Chief相当于我军的一级军士长，而不是二级，Senior
Chief才是二级
【在 s**********d 的大作中提到】
:
: 是，他们是志愿兵，不是军校出来的所以不能成为领兵的军官。
: 只能做辅助职位。master chief是最高等级，至少十几年才能，还要批准。
: SEAL里因为大多是军龄很长的兵所以chiefs很多。。。要是在船上
: 他们就是enlisted的头。
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