F****n
发帖数: 3271 | 1 They let JT go. 就别扯啥NCAA RULE之类的事了，咬住这些不放的才是伪君子。哪个
大PROGRAM没有点这种事，只要能充分利用规则，别象USC那样不可收拾，根本就是属于
优点而不是缺点，用FOOTBALL TERMS，类似于"Good at using hands at contact",
haha
OSU还远未到不可收拾的地步，就是学校自己SB自宫，AGAIN，别扯啥MORAL STANDARD之
类的BS，照我看就是OSU BOARD里有人胃口被JT吊高了，象当年优密对老车一样，以为
我大丐不年年的NC就是耻辱, 开始挑各种骨头。孰不知JT的成绩，其实是相当不易的。 |
b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 2 我最扼腕的就是这事是被一个sb lawyer搞出来的。tnnd.
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: They let JT go. 就别扯啥NCAA RULE之类的事了，咬住这些不放的才是伪君子。哪个
: 大PROGRAM没有点这种事，只要能充分利用规则，别象USC那样不可收拾，根本就是属于
: 优点而不是缺点，用FOOTBALL TERMS，类似于"Good at using hands at contact",
: haha
: OSU还远未到不可收拾的地步，就是学校自己SB自宫，AGAIN，别扯啥MORAL STANDARD之
: 类的BS，照我看就是OSU BOARD里有人胃口被JT吊高了，象当年优密对老车一样，以为
: 我大丐不年年的NC就是耻辱, 开始挑各种骨头。孰不知JT的成绩，其实是相当不易的。
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i**r
发帖数: 998 | 3 The lawyer was really trying to help osu football
Now u call him a sb?
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 我最扼腕的就是这事是被一个sb lawyer搞出来的。tnnd.
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F****n
发帖数: 3271 | 4 学校真要挺教练其实是没问题的，这种NCAA调查如果没有实质性的证据，根本不能拿教
练怎么样，怎么证明是教练默许的，最多罚个款然后整几个其实所有人都知道的到处都
有的丑闻。比如帮人做作业，这TMD不是到处都这样么。还有SPONSOR以各种名义给球员
钱，哪个学校没有，只要有PAPER WORK，“工资”别太离谱，太正常了。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 我最扼腕的就是这事是被一个sb lawyer搞出来的。tnnd.
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 5 证据怎么可能没有。汽车肯定是discounted的。卖东西也绝对不止5个。NCAA要说你犯规
，不需要有铁证，有probable cause就可以了吧。
anyway, too much distraction now, JT辞职是早晚的事。sigh
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: 学校真要挺教练其实是没问题的，这种NCAA调查如果没有实质性的证据，根本不能拿教
: 练怎么样，怎么证明是教练默许的，最多罚个款然后整几个其实所有人都知道的到处都
: 有的丑闻。比如帮人做作业，这TMD不是到处都这样么。还有SPONSOR以各种名义给球员
: 钱，哪个学校没有，只要有PAPER WORK，“工资”别太离谱，太正常了。
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F****n
发帖数: 3271 | 6 只要没法证明这个东西不是学校和教练同意的，就不可能有大的处罚。
犯规
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 证据怎么可能没有。汽车肯定是discounted的。卖东西也绝对不止5个。NCAA要说你犯规
: ，不需要有铁证，有probable cause就可以了吧。
: anyway, too much distraction now, JT辞职是早晚的事。sigh
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 7 usc不也一样处罚了。
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: 只要没法证明这个东西不是学校和教练同意的，就不可能有大的处罚。
:
: 犯规
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s****y
发帖数: 958 | 8 OSU的head coach好像有史以来就一个不是被炒或者被赶走的。 |
d********g
发帖数: 11948 | 9 这也未必一件坏事。 潮涨潮落，总有走下神坛的一天。而且我盖也需要换一下pace了
。如果能搞到马爷是个plus，不过这家伙貌似搞不定michigan |
m********t
发帖数: 9426 | 10 可惜
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: They let JT go. 就别扯啥NCAA RULE之类的事了，咬住这些不放的才是伪君子。哪个
: 大PROGRAM没有点这种事，只要能充分利用规则，别象USC那样不可收拾，根本就是属于
: 优点而不是缺点，用FOOTBALL TERMS，类似于"Good at using hands at contact",
: haha
: OSU还远未到不可收拾的地步，就是学校自己SB自宫，AGAIN，别扯啥MORAL STANDARD之
: 类的BS，照我看就是OSU BOARD里有人胃口被JT吊高了，象当年优密对老车一样，以为
: 我大丐不年年的NC就是耻辱, 开始挑各种骨头。孰不知JT的成绩，其实是相当不易的。
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z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 11 NCAA investigations do not operate like a court of law. They don't need
proof of guilt to punish you. Even when it's obvious that the school and
coaches are innocent, they can still come down hard on you for just not
liking your attitude (e.g. USC).
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: 只要没法证明这个东西不是学校和教练同意的，就不可能有大的处罚。
:
: 犯规
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o****3
发帖数: 5100 | 12 Are you saying that usc and pete were innocent?
It might not be obvious.
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: NCAA investigations do not operate like a court of law. They don't need
: proof of guilt to punish you. Even when it's obvious that the school and
: coaches are innocent, they can still come down hard on you for just not
: liking your attitude (e.g. USC).
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z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 13 Exactly.
The people paying Reggie Bush's parents were not affiliated with USC in
any manner. In fact, the payments were to get Reggie Bush to leave USC
early (which he did).
In other words, USC got nearly the death penalty for failing to prevent
other people from paying Reggie Bush to NOT play for USC.
JT leaving is a good move for OSU because it gives the NCAA a face-saving
excuse for not coming down hard on OSU. Otherwise, the NCAA would look
like complete hypocrites if they don't punish OSU at least as severely as
they did USC.
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: usc不也一样处罚了。
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z*****a
发帖数: 3809 | 14 I think it is pretty obvious that PC and USC were innocent in the Reggie
Bush case. Remember, the payments to Bush's parents were made by people
who were trying to get Bush to leave USC.
What PC and USC are definitely guilty of is being complete arrogant
a**holes. It's why pretty much all non-USC fans hates them and it's
also why they got such harsh and unprecedented punishments from the
NCAA.
I dislike PC and his USC teams as much as anybody. My favorite college
football moment in the last couple of years is by far the "what's your
deal" 2-point conversion attempt by Jim Harbaugh against USC in 2009.
However, this does not change the fact that the punishments for USC in
the Reggie Bush case is very much about USC's arrogance and not about
anything that USC actually did wrong regarding Reggie Bush.
【在 o****3 的大作中提到】
: Are you saying that usc and pete were innocent?
: It might not be obvious.
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 15 Innocent? Come on the right word should be implicit
I think it is pretty obvious that PC and USC were innocent in the Reggie
Bush case.
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 7.18 - iPad Lite
【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: I think it is pretty obvious that PC and USC were innocent in the Reggie
: Bush case. Remember, the payments to Bush's parents were made by people
: who were trying to get Bush to leave USC.
: What PC and USC are definitely guilty of is being complete arrogant
: a**holes. It's why pretty much all non-USC fans hates them and it's
: also why they got such harsh and unprecedented punishments from the
: NCAA.
: I dislike PC and his USC teams as much as anybody. My favorite college
: football moment in the last couple of years is by far the "what's your
: deal" 2-point conversion attempt by Jim Harbaugh against USC in 2009.
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 16 你怎么不说JT sb，没人逼他回伊妹儿阿。
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: 我最扼腕的就是这事是被一个sb lawyer搞出来的。tnnd.
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b**j
发帖数: 20742 | 17 Yeah jt is stupid too
【在 Y******e 的大作中提到】
: 你怎么不说JT sb，没人逼他回伊妹儿阿。
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H*****r
发帖数: 764 | 18 no HC in major programs is innocent...the difference is JT got caught
【在 b**j 的大作中提到】
: Innocent? Come on the right word should be implicit
:
: I think it is pretty obvious that PC and USC were innocent in the Reggie
: Bush case.
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 7.18 - iPad Lite
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Y******e
发帖数: 20256 | 19 你老肯定没怎么follow这件事，JT因为那个lawyer的email抖出来，很明显已经是撒谎
，用了不eligible的player。光这件事就可以让JT下台了。什么lack of control之类
，也就一个名目，everything is under JT's control until the lawyer's email was exposed, haha.
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】
: 只要没法证明这个东西不是学校和教练同意的，就不可能有大的处罚。
:
: 犯规
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