o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 1 First, only one of us (three) made to the top (not me). I only walked up to
5100m. It is sad considered the summit rate is 65% and almost summit rate (
up to 5700m) is 90%.
For the high altitude sickness, I stopped drinking coffee 10 days in advance
and began taking Diamox one day in advance at a reduced dose. On the first
day, we walked up from 1700m to 3100m or so and it was a nice warm up
through rain forest. I did not have any high altitude symptoms on the second
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 2 good trip report.
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【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : First, only one of us (three) made to the top (not me). I only walked up to : 5100m. It is sad considered the summit rate is 65% and almost summit rate ( : up to 5700m) is 90%. : For the high altitude sickness, I stopped drinking coffee 10 days in advance : and began taking Diamox one day in advance at a reduced dose. On the first : day, we walked up from 1700m to 3100m or so and it was a nice warm up : through rain forest. I did not have any high altitude symptoms on the second : day, but when I began to wal
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 3 It is tough to walk > 4500m. I know how it feels...
Don't have to feel too bad about it. Sounds like a great trip! Altitude is
different for everybody even very healthy and active people. For me it took
4 days to get used to it.
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【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : First, only one of us (three) made to the top (not me). I only walked up to : 5100m. It is sad considered the summit rate is 65% and almost summit rate ( : up to 5700m) is 90%. : For the high altitude sickness, I stopped drinking coffee 10 days in advance : and began taking Diamox one day in advance at a reduced dose. On the first : day, we walked up from 1700m to 3100m or so and it was a nice warm up : through rain forest. I did not have any high altitude symptoms on the second : day, but when I began to wal
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b*********x 发帖数: 362 | 4 thanks for the TR and all the details.
Is the person who summited also the one whose heart rate was only 80+
while two of you were 110+ ?
Have you summited any of the 14ers in US before attempt to climb Kili?
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【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : First, only one of us (three) made to the top (not me). I only walked up to : 5100m. It is sad considered the summit rate is 65% and almost summit rate ( : up to 5700m) is 90%. : For the high altitude sickness, I stopped drinking coffee 10 days in advance : and began taking Diamox one day in advance at a reduced dose. On the first : day, we walked up from 1700m to 3100m or so and it was a nice warm up : through rain forest. I did not have any high altitude symptoms on the second : day, but when I began to wal
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 5 多谢。
据guide说,顶上和4600m营地的view差不多,所以我其实满开心的,赫赫。
took
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It is tough to walk > 4500m. I know how it feels... : Don't have to feel too bad about it. Sounds like a great trip! Altitude is : different for everybody even very healthy and active people. For me it took : 4 days to get used to it. : : to : advance : first : second
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 6 嗯。他好像对高度一点问题没有,吃的饱,睡的香,看得我个羡慕啊。
没有。唯一的一次失败的尝试也是因为高原反应,而且似乎也是在很低的地方就开始了。
不过我觉得这个真的是case by case...
【在 b*********x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : thanks for the TR and all the details. : Is the person who summited also the one whose heart rate was only 80+ : while two of you were 110+ ? : Have you summited any of the 14ers in US before attempt to climb Kili? : : to : advance : first : second
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 7 一天喝多少水?
了。
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯。他好像对高度一点问题没有,吃的饱,睡的香,看得我个羡慕啊。 : 没有。唯一的一次失败的尝试也是因为高原反应,而且似乎也是在很低的地方就开始了。 : 不过我觉得这个真的是case by case...
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n*****a 发帖数: 1327 | 8 nice trip.
maybe i should try to see how my body reacts to high elevation sometime.
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【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : First, only one of us (three) made to the top (not me). I only walked up to : 5100m. It is sad considered the summit rate is 65% and almost summit rate ( : up to 5700m) is 90%. : For the high altitude sickness, I stopped drinking coffee 10 days in advance : and began taking Diamox one day in advance at a reduced dose. On the first : day, we walked up from 1700m to 3100m or so and it was a nice warm up : through rain forest. I did not have any high altitude symptoms on the second : day, but when I began to wal
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 9 did you feel anything when you drove through loveland pass?
【在 n*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : nice trip. : maybe i should try to see how my body reacts to high elevation sometime. : : to : advance : first : second
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 10 白天2L,我平常sea level一天1000m攀升的爬山平均0.3L,忍一忍可以一天不喝水,所
以这个量对我已经很多了。
Diamox吃了以后,喉咙一直发腥、发干,只能喝。
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 一天喝多少水? : : 了。
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 11 你平常喝水就不太正常(这个不取决于你的渴的程度,而是生理代谢需求)
你高海拔一天2L就更不够了,特别是有高反征兆,就应该加大饮水
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 白天2L,我平常sea level一天1000m攀升的爬山平均0.3L,忍一忍可以一天不喝水,所 : 以这个量对我已经很多了。 : Diamox吃了以后,喉咙一直发腥、发干,只能喝。
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b*********x 发帖数: 362 | 12 我也在找寻对付AMS的好方法,也许真应该象Anoia建议的那样
试试平时带口罩长跑
了。
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯。他好像对高度一点问题没有,吃的饱,睡的香,看得我个羡慕啊。 : 没有。唯一的一次失败的尝试也是因为高原反应,而且似乎也是在很低的地方就开始了。 : 不过我觉得这个真的是case by case...
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 13 我没说那是对付高反的,那是练习肺活量的
【在 b*********x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在找寻对付AMS的好方法,也许真应该象Anoia建议的那样 : 试试平时带口罩长跑 : : 了。
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 14 嗯,被很多人批评过了,好像我天生就不爱喝水 :-(
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你平常喝水就不太正常(这个不取决于你的渴的程度,而是生理代谢需求) : 你高海拔一天2L就更不够了,特别是有高反征兆,就应该加大饮水
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 15 我怎么觉得是这个diamox吃得不好
同行的人吃这个了没?
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 白天2L,我平常sea level一天1000m攀升的爬山平均0.3L,忍一忍可以一天不喝水,所 : 以这个量对我已经很多了。 : Diamox吃了以后,喉咙一直发腥、发干,只能喝。
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 16 ah? this does not work ba
【在 b*********x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我也在找寻对付AMS的好方法,也许真应该象Anoia建议的那样 : 试试平时带口罩长跑 : : 了。
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 17 下次去沙漠,就派你扛水了
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,被很多人批评过了,好像我天生就不爱喝水 :-(
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 18 没有啊。他们看我吃了没啥效果,也就没吃。而且这个第一次吃之前要在低海拔test的。
嗯,我也有点后悔,以前不吃,虽然症状比较严重,但是最多1个晚上过去就一点事情
也没有了,不像这次这么持久。我本来打算备着,不一定吃的,结果这药忒贵了,保险
还不cover,觉着不吃亏了...
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我怎么觉得是这个diamox吃得不好 : 同行的人吃这个了没?
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b*********x 发帖数: 362 | 19 那在低海拔地区如何练习有效对应AMS?
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我没说那是对付高反的,那是练习肺活量的
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 20 I do not see anything useful
just keep yourself fit
【在 b*********x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那在低海拔地区如何练习有效对应AMS?
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 21 感觉这个药扰乱了你正常的新陈代谢.
以后别吃了, 按说赤道上,这个海拔高度加上好几天的高海拔适应,应该也就是rainier
的效果,你应该没问题的
的。
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没有啊。他们看我吃了没啥效果,也就没吃。而且这个第一次吃之前要在低海拔test的。 : 嗯,我也有点后悔,以前不吃,虽然症状比较严重,但是最多1个晚上过去就一点事情 : 也没有了,不像这次这么持久。我本来打算备着,不一定吃的,结果这药忒贵了,保险 : 还不cover,觉着不吃亏了...
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n*****a 发帖数: 1327 | 22 I felt very excited since Vail was right in the front:)
The only time I felt something is on the 3rd night there when I laid down on
bed in hotel(9000ft), I feel my heart rate is like 80+. I suppose to have
around 50-55 when laid down. Not sure if it was caused by beer/coffee/
jacuzzi/sauna.
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : did you feel anything when you drove through loveland pass?
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 23 lol,你强
我们从盐湖城开车到denver,经过loveland pass的时候,大家都不同程度的感到了海拔
在denver适应了一晚之后,第二天就好多了
on
【在 n*****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I felt very excited since Vail was right in the front:) : The only time I felt something is on the 3rd night there when I laid down on : bed in hotel(9000ft), I feel my heart rate is like 80+. I suppose to have : around 50-55 when laid down. Not sure if it was caused by beer/coffee/ : jacuzzi/sauna.
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 24 同意,最多也就锻炼一下心肺,但是老实说没什么实际用处(除非你本来就是大胖子)
跑步什么练习可以用鼻呼吸可以减缓一些高海拔因为用口呼吸带来的问题,但是这个
也跟高反无关
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I do not see anything useful : just keep yourself fit
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 25 他记错了我说的话
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : ah? this does not work ba
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 26 会不会之前太疲劳?没养好?
rainier
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 感觉这个药扰乱了你正常的新陈代谢. : 以后别吃了, 按说赤道上,这个海拔高度加上好几天的高海拔适应,应该也就是rainier : 的效果,你应该没问题的 : : 的。
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y*****y 发帖数: 3433 | 27 Nice TR,congrtulations! |
o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 28 也有可能吧,走之前一个星期上班非常忙,然后飞了二十多个小时过去,时差都没倒,
直接上去的。第一天就觉得有点累,不应该的。
药可能也有问题,原来不吃,症状是比较严重,但是一般1个晚上过去就没事了...
说到底,还是rp不够好,呵呵~
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 会不会之前太疲劳?没养好? : : rainier
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 29 我想这个才是真正的问题所在
你整个身体都是处在紊乱疲劳的状况
我们以前爬雪山,都是先在大本营待2天以上,适应海拔,然后天天大吃大喝(回锅肉
之类大肉片甩开腮帮子狂吃)
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 也有可能吧,走之前一个星期上班非常忙,然后飞了二十多个小时过去,时差都没倒, : 直接上去的。第一天就觉得有点累,不应该的。 : 药可能也有问题,原来不吃,症状是比较严重,但是一般1个晚上过去就没事了... : 说到底,还是rp不够好,呵呵~
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 30 嗯,还是有点轻视这个trip了。
而且也没有那么多时间,3000米以上我基本就什么也不想吃了。
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我想这个才是真正的问题所在 : 你整个身体都是处在紊乱疲劳的状况 : 我们以前爬雪山,都是先在大本营待2天以上,适应海拔,然后天天大吃大喝(回锅肉 : 之类大肉片甩开腮帮子狂吃)
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 31 不吃不喝只能让情况更糟,进入恶性循环.
锅肉
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,还是有点轻视这个trip了。 : 而且也没有那么多时间,3000米以上我基本就什么也不想吃了。
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f****e 发帖数: 553 | 32 Nice report and thanks for sharing! I couldn't help re-running in my head my
trip a month ago with it.
I started to have a sore throat from the first night at Machame Camp after
the heavy rain during the day. All 3 of our team did feel well on the second
at Shira Cave. One of us even threw up but fortunately recovered after one
Diamox pill. The third day was tough even though the trail was flat. I felt
quite good on the fourth day until reached Baranf in freezing snow shower,
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T********d 发帖数: 621 | 33 羡慕啊!
有空给你讲讲我在sea level 经历的"高原反应"。。。
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 也有可能吧,走之前一个星期上班非常忙,然后飞了二十多个小时过去,时差都没倒, : 直接上去的。第一天就觉得有点累,不应该的。 : 药可能也有问题,原来不吃,症状是比较严重,但是一般1个晚上过去就没事了... : 说到底,还是rp不够好,呵呵~
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 34 nod,就是没胃口,也要算完成任务一样硬塞
【在 T*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不吃不喝只能让情况更糟,进入恶性循环. : : 锅肉
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T*********e 发帖数: 39815 | 35 现在讲吧,我也听听
倒,
【在 T********d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 羡慕啊! : 有空给你讲讲我在sea level 经历的"高原反应"。。。
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 36 Yes, I am with Xun and he made it.
"the trail was flat" on the third day. So you did not go pass the lava tower?
I can definitely walk in a straight line and can definitely count on my
summit push. Seem that I give up too easily? Hehe.
Nice report and thanks for sharing! I couldn't help re-running in my head my
trip a month ago with it.
I started to have a sore throat from the first night at Machame Camp after
the heavy rain during the day. All 3 of our team did feel well on the second
at Shira
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Nice report and thanks for sharing! I couldn't help re-running in my head my : trip a month ago with it. : I started to have a sore throat from the first night at Machame Camp after : the heavy rain during the day. All 3 of our team did feel well on the second : at Shira Cave. One of us even threw up but fortunately recovered after one : Diamox pill. The third day was tough even though the trail was flat. I felt : quite good on the fourth day until reached Baranf in freezing snow shower, : when my stomach sta
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 37 那个cooker做的东西太油、太甜,我在sea level都很不喜欢的口味。
害得我满世界找果丹皮吃,呵呵
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : nod,就是没胃口,也要算完成任务一样硬塞
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f****e 发帖数: 553 | 38 It costed me only ~$6. So I didn't feel 吃亏 to bring it back :)
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那个cooker做的东西太油、太甜,我在sea level都很不喜欢的口味。 : 害得我满世界找果丹皮吃,呵呵
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f****e 发帖数: 553 | 39 Welcome back then! Or are you still in China? I tried to share some of my
experience after I came back but could not find your thread at BAD.
We didn't went all the way to the Lava tower because the weather was
changing. But it was only ~100m higher than the junction. Compared to the
4th, or even the 2nd day, it was flat. At least you don't need to use arms.
My guide told me to give up only when one of these symptoms persists:
headache, dizziness or diarrhea. Fortunately all I had was heartburn
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Yes, I am with Xun and he made it. : "the trail was flat" on the third day. So you did not go pass the lava tower? : I can definitely walk in a straight line and can definitely count on my : summit push. Seem that I give up too easily? Hehe. : : Nice report and thanks for sharing! I couldn't help re-running in my head my : trip a month ago with it. : I started to have a sore throat from the first night at Machame Camp after : the heavy rain during the day. All 3 of our team did feel well on the second : at Shira
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 41 Sigh, "guide" is the one we complained most. The company and the guide are
very unprofessional to me. Seems that he knew nothing but showing the way
up...
I know who you are then, but you don't know me. I am not from bay area. :-)
.
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Welcome back then! Or are you still in China? I tried to share some of my : experience after I came back but could not find your thread at BAD. : We didn't went all the way to the Lava tower because the weather was : changing. But it was only ~100m higher than the junction. Compared to the : 4th, or even the 2nd day, it was flat. At least you don't need to use arms. : My guide told me to give up only when one of these symptoms persists: : headache, dizziness or diarrhea. Fortunately all I had was heartburn
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f****e 发帖数: 553 | 42 oops, i thought you were oat:) sorry. but hi, nice to talk to you anyway.
regarding to the guides, that's right. they seemed to care more about what
to have for dinner than the hike itself. Every time when we ask them about
the mileage or elevation gain, the two guides gave us different answers :)
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Sigh, "guide" is the one we complained most. The company and the guide are : very unprofessional to me. Seems that he knew nothing but showing the way : up... : I know who you are then, but you don't know me. I am not from bay area. :-) : : .
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 43 He did not give us any next day schedule. We never knew when to have
breakfast/ dinner in advance and we never knew where to stop for lunch in
advance.
Also, I asked for clothing suggestion, they said "it depends on you." and
nothing else. I asked whether I am still good for ascending. Also "depends
on you" and nothing else.
On the summit push, they didn't bring anything and asked me not to bring
anything except water as well. I don't know what other guides did, but no
extra clothing, no emergen
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : oops, i thought you were oat:) sorry. but hi, nice to talk to you anyway. : regarding to the guides, that's right. they seemed to care more about what : to have for dinner than the hike itself. Every time when we ask them about : the mileage or elevation gain, the two guides gave us different answers :)
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 44 不错了,当时我们上5000m以后,吃的都是方便面+榨菜,好要强迫自己一顿赛2包
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那个cooker做的东西太油、太甜,我在sea level都很不喜欢的口味。 : 害得我满世界找果丹皮吃,呵呵
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f****e 发帖数: 553 | 45 sounds like we got a better crew :) the guides at least gave us a brief for
tomorrow every evening during dinner, even though I really wanted to go out
of the tent to take some pictures of the incredible sunset. For the summit
night, they carried up an oxygen bottle and some hot water for us to drink
at Stellar Point. They even carried our backpacks when we were so exhausted.
Things could be quite different if the guides can't setup a right pace and
provide all the help needed.
hard
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : He did not give us any next day schedule. We never knew when to have : breakfast/ dinner in advance and we never knew where to stop for lunch in : advance. : Also, I asked for clothing suggestion, they said "it depends on you." and : nothing else. I asked whether I am still good for ascending. Also "depends : on you" and nothing else. : On the summit push, they didn't bring anything and asked me not to bring : anything except water as well. I don't know what other guides did, but no : extra clothing, no emergen
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 46 你要是在3000m上呆到什么都想吃为止,就基本上过一关了
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 嗯,还是有点轻视这个trip了。 : 而且也没有那么多时间,3000米以上我基本就什么也不想吃了。
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a***a 发帖数: 40617 | 47 那是对老美,老中我建议提高到4000m
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你要是在3000m上呆到什么都想吃为止,就基本上过一关了
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 48 ft,榨菜多好吃啊,我就喜欢吃咸的~
我在山上的时候就特怀念方便面,整天跟他们唠叨,还被bs
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不错了,当时我们上5000m以后,吃的都是方便面+榨菜,好要强迫自己一顿赛2包
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 49 exactly. The guide actually followed my pace all the way. I said to him, I
am not good at controlling pace and let him lead, but he never wanted to do
so.
You are lucky, if they had an oxygen bottle, I probably won't give up so
early. On the summit night, I kept thinking, if I fell in some condition,
what will the guide do? No emergency stuff, no communication tool, what will
he do in such a cold and tough night??
They even didn't have a walkie-talkie. On the 4th day, the guide kept
looking back
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : sounds like we got a better crew :) the guides at least gave us a brief for : tomorrow every evening during dinner, even though I really wanted to go out : of the tent to take some pictures of the incredible sunset. For the summit : night, they carried up an oxygen bottle and some hot water for us to drink : at Stellar Point. They even carried our backpacks when we were so exhausted. : Things could be quite different if the guides can't setup a right pace and : provide all the help needed. : : hard
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f****e 发帖数: 553 | 50 haha, I brought a pack of 白家肥肠粉 with me and had it for dinner on the
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 51 我的意思是第一关。。
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那是对老美,老中我建议提高到4000m
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f****e 发帖数: 553 | 52 shame on your guides! now I would strongly recommend Zara to whoever is
going later. Actually I think there is cell-phone signal almost all the way
in the mountain.
I would also recommend a tourist membership with flying doctors:
http://amref.org/
it costs only $15 for a 2-weeks insurance. Knowing that you could call a
helicopter for evacuation if something happens is really a peace on mind.
Very good for a Kili trip and it is a kind of charity also.
其实登顶很大程度上是运气。而且一拨一拨的。看见大家都上去了,自己也就稀里糊涂
跟着上了。看
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : exactly. The guide actually followed my pace all the way. I said to him, I : am not good at controlling pace and let him lead, but he never wanted to do : so. : You are lucky, if they had an oxygen bottle, I probably won't give up so : early. On the summit night, I kept thinking, if I fell in some condition, : what will the guide do? No emergency stuff, no communication tool, what will : he do in such a cold and tough night?? : They even didn't have a walkie-talkie. On the 4th day, the guide kept : looking back
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o*****e 发帖数: 379 | 53 oat didn't try during that night. So I was with guide and Xun was with
assistant guide and he was runing far afront of me. Actually I was alone
with the guide and he was silent all the way, followed my pace and let me
make every decision.
I am writing something on another board, will cite your recommendation. :-)
way
【在 f****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : shame on your guides! now I would strongly recommend Zara to whoever is : going later. Actually I think there is cell-phone signal almost all the way : in the mountain. : I would also recommend a tourist membership with flying doctors: : http://amref.org/ : it costs only $15 for a 2-weeks insurance. Knowing that you could call a : helicopter for evacuation if something happens is really a peace on mind. : Very good for a Kili trip and it is a kind of charity also. : 其实登顶很大程度上是运气。而且一拨一拨的。看见大家都上去了,自己也就稀里糊涂 : 跟着上了。看
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s******y 发帖数: 121 | 54
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first
second
Nice try. I know how having AMS feels. Turning around is wise.
Welcome back.
【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : First, only one of us (three) made to the top (not me). I only walked up to : 5100m. It is sad considered the summit rate is 65% and almost summit rate ( : up to 5700m) is 90%. : For the high altitude sickness, I stopped drinking coffee 10 days in advance : and began taking Diamox one day in advance at a reduced dose. On the first : day, we walked up from 1700m to 3100m or so and it was a nice warm up : through rain forest. I did not have any high altitude symptoms on the second : day, but when I began to wal
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s******y 发帖数: 121 | 55
Interesting. The highest point I spent a night at is about 4400m. I was very
hungry there and ate a lot.
【在 b**k 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你要是在3000m上呆到什么都想吃为止,就基本上过一关了
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O*******d 发帖数: 20343 | 56 在高原要强迫自己喝水和吃东西,不管你身体感觉如何。 我想楼主的厌食厌水导致高
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 57 我到哪都很饿。。。
very
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : Interesting. The highest point I spent a night at is about 4400m. I was very : hungry there and ate a lot.
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S*L 发帖数: 1746 | 58 呵呵,不容易.
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【在 o*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : First, only one of us (three) made to the top (not me). I only walked up to : 5100m. It is sad considered the summit rate is 65% and almost summit rate ( : up to 5700m) is 90%. : For the high altitude sickness, I stopped drinking coffee 10 days in advance : and began taking Diamox one day in advance at a reduced dose. On the first : day, we walked up from 1700m to 3100m or so and it was a nice warm up : through rain forest. I did not have any high altitude symptoms on the second : day, but when I began to wal
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T********d 发帖数: 621 | 59 U牛!
very
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : Interesting. The highest point I spent a night at is about 4400m. I was very : hungry there and ate a lot.
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l****7 发帖数: 644 | 60 我觉得那个向导说的那句话最好:congratulations on your try
那天,成日说:带你去KILI。我想也不想,就说好--无知者无畏嘛!
然后开始疯狂作功课,越做越觉得怕,这个仿佛真没啥定律的啊,有些没有丝毫经
验的,上去了,有些大牛竟然没上去。。。。。。鬼才知道啥人才应该能上去啊!
可怎么看,也不像是偶。--过3000必头疼欲裂。晕车,晕船,晕水。走路是
超级弱项。不得不走,也是走得超级慢,负重超级轻,喝水超级多的那伙的。
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s********e 发帖数: 814 | 61 冬天不活动啦?
去Mt Washington么 :D
【在 l****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我觉得那个向导说的那句话最好:congratulations on your try : 那天,成日说:带你去KILI。我想也不想,就说好--无知者无畏嘛! : 然后开始疯狂作功课,越做越觉得怕,这个仿佛真没啥定律的啊,有些没有丝毫经 : 验的,上去了,有些大牛竟然没上去。。。。。。鬼才知道啥人才应该能上去啊! : 可怎么看,也不像是偶。--过3000必头疼欲裂。晕车,晕船,晕水。走路是 : 超级弱项。不得不走,也是走得超级慢,负重超级轻,喝水超级多的那伙的。 : 想来想去,也拿不定个主意,去还是不去呢?
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l****7 发帖数: 644 | 62 看到了,很诱惑啊。可惜,没有三天假啊。很远的说。我说去近处走路,大家都不走,
说没装备,山上下雪了。我郁闷着呢。你有啥好主意?
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 冬天不活动啦? : 去Mt Washington么 :D
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b*********x 发帖数: 362 | 63 到现在才注意到水手不叫水手了,为攀岩改的名?
【在 s********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 冬天不活动啦? : 去Mt Washington么 :D
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