s*****n
发帖数: 2174 | 1 朋友的n1和我的droid放在一起对比了一下, 总体上目前这两个phone差不太多, 硬件上
各有一些优缺点. 软件上android 2.1比2.0改进还是很大的.
鉴于nexus one没正式发布, 就不公开爆料了. 如果有兴趣知道更多一些细节, 站内pm
我吧. |
a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 2 it would be a mistake if Google enter the market with Google branded phone.
OS owner who makes hardware, then license the OS to other hardware makers,
this model has never worked.
Did not work for Apple.
Did not work for Palm.
Did not work for Nokia.
Did not work for M$: PlayForSure & Zune.
The reason is simple. You either make better hardware than licensees, or
licensees makes better hardwares. Either way, it normally won't end pretty.
pm
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 朋友的n1和我的droid放在一起对比了一下, 总体上目前这两个phone差不太多, 硬件上
: 各有一些优缺点. 软件上android 2.1比2.0改进还是很大的.
: 鉴于nexus one没正式发布, 就不公开爆料了. 如果有兴趣知道更多一些细节, 站内pm
: 我吧.
|
S***r
发帖数: 12443 | |
s*****n
发帖数: 2174 | 4 这个根本就不知道. 只有上市了才会知道.
【在 S***r 的大作中提到】
: 价格可以爆不
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s*****n
发帖数: 2174 | 5 为什么这么说? n1也不是google制造的啊? 除了媒体, 没人管这个叫google branded
phone吧, 与之前的g1, mytouch 等等不同的, 只是google可能会独立销售这个手机而
已, 就像amazon卖手机一样.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: it would be a mistake if Google enter the market with Google branded phone.
: OS owner who makes hardware, then license the OS to other hardware makers,
: this model has never worked.
: Did not work for Apple.
: Did not work for Palm.
: Did not work for Nokia.
: Did not work for M$: PlayForSure & Zune.
: The reason is simple. You either make better hardware than licensees, or
: licensees makes better hardwares. Either way, it normally won't end pretty.
:
|
a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 6 yes and that cause even more consumer confusion.
not talking about geeks on this board who understand Android well.
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 为什么这么说? n1也不是google制造的啊? 除了媒体, 没人管这个叫google branded
: phone吧, 与之前的g1, mytouch 等等不同的, 只是google可能会独立销售这个手机而
: 已, 就像amazon卖手机一样.
|
s*****n
发帖数: 2174 | 7 恩, android 2.1 的animation 方面, 很多地方和 iphone 很像.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: yes and that cause even more consumer confusion.
: not talking about geeks on this board who understand Android well.
|
l*****e
发帖数: 16384 | 8 我想知道，是不是Android 2.1版会对硬件要求更高？比如必须得1G的cpu和512的ram。
我看youtube上的视频和别人的发帖，说在driod上运行Android 2.1会慢很多很多。
这样一来，系统就太封闭了吧，难道下一代的Android手机都要1g的cpu才行？ |
s*****n
发帖数: 2174 | 9 这个就无从而知了. 毕竟现在还没有droid升级到2.1系统.
不过你说的不是不可能, android 2.1 那些 animation, 如果说需要更高的硬件, 这一
点也不奇怪. n1的硬件, 比droid还是强出去一大截的.
以后手机1g以上是肯定的了. 后面的那个bravo 不是也是 1g 的cpu吗?
【在 l*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我想知道，是不是Android 2.1版会对硬件要求更高？比如必须得1G的cpu和512的ram。
: 我看youtube上的视频和别人的发帖，说在driod上运行Android 2.1会慢很多很多。
: 这样一来，系统就太封闭了吧，难道下一代的Android手机都要1g的cpu才行？
|
t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 10 seems only apple fans are easily confused.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: yes and that cause even more consumer confusion.
: not talking about geeks on this board who understand Android well.
|
|
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t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 11 like the reason cited by apple to deny google voice is that it will
confuse the users.
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: seems only apple fans are easily confused.
|
f*****t
发帖数: 4395 | 12
pm
能说一下UI 和网页浏览流畅么？ 比droid 怎么样？
还有就是确实使用amoled吗？
这些应该可以回答吧?
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 朋友的n1和我的droid放在一起对比了一下, 总体上目前这两个phone差不太多, 硬件上
: 各有一些优缺点. 软件上android 2.1比2.0改进还是很大的.
: 鉴于nexus one没正式发布, 就不公开爆料了. 如果有兴趣知道更多一些细节, 站内pm
: 我吧.
|
v****e
发帖数: 10715 | 13 牛机机啊
pm
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 朋友的n1和我的droid放在一起对比了一下, 总体上目前这两个phone差不太多, 硬件上
: 各有一些优缺点. 软件上android 2.1比2.0改进还是很大的.
: 鉴于nexus one没正式发布, 就不公开爆料了. 如果有兴趣知道更多一些细节, 站内pm
: 我吧.
|
m***i
发帖数: 2480 | 14 Blazing fast.
【在 f*****t 的大作中提到】
:
: pm
: 能说一下UI 和网页浏览流畅么？ 比droid 怎么样？
: 还有就是确实使用amoled吗？
: 这些应该可以回答吧?
|
l*****e
发帖数: 16384 | 15 感觉google这么做是不对的，难道一个智能手机都不能升级系统？想使用新的功能还要
换手机？ |
s*****n
发帖数: 2174 | 16 现在猜测这些还为时尚早.
其实即使2.1在Droid上能跑得跟nexus one 一样流畅. 早晚也会有Android x.y, 在N1
上可以跑, 但是到Droid上跑不了. 这个不管是移动设备还是桌面设备, 软件和硬件都
是水涨船高.
【在 l*****e 的大作中提到】
: 感觉google这么做是不对的，难道一个智能手机都不能升级系统？想使用新的功能还要
: 换手机？
|
d**a
发帖数: 84 | 17 我的印象是nexus看网页不错，分辨率比iphone高，
但是触摸还是不如iphone。
那个oled的屏幕感觉也一般。
还有的就是太丑了。难到就不能把颜色搞得均一一些，
然后把那些破破烂烂的缝隙给填平？
pm
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 朋友的n1和我的droid放在一起对比了一下, 总体上目前这两个phone差不太多, 硬件上
: 各有一些优缺点. 软件上android 2.1比2.0改进还是很大的.
: 鉴于nexus one没正式发布, 就不公开爆料了. 如果有兴趣知道更多一些细节, 站内pm
: 我吧.
|
l*****e
发帖数: 16384 | |
j**********t
发帖数: 314 | 19 Droid也就是几个Apple hater在那里你唱我合的自己捧自己。 这么个丑八怪hype不
会超过3个月。
【在 d**a 的大作中提到】
: 我的印象是nexus看网页不错，分辨率比iphone高，
: 但是触摸还是不如iphone。
: 那个oled的屏幕感觉也一般。
: 还有的就是太丑了。难到就不能把颜色搞得均一一些，
: 然后把那些破破烂烂的缝隙给填平？
:
: pm
|
j****s
发帖数: 228 | 20 skia 用硬件加速了？
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 恩, android 2.1 的animation 方面, 很多地方和 iphone 很像.
|
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j****s
发帖数: 228 | 21 $29/month, unlimited voice (VOIP) + data，这不把carrier搞死才怪。
－－－－－－
Here’s the price: $199 unlocked in stores. $100 rebate online if you
have an active and old Google account. That $100 rebate is either to buy it
$99 online from Google’s online phone store, for using on Android
Marketplace or for using on any Google Checkout stores. Can also be used for
T-Mobile or AT&T pre-paid Data SIM card service at $29 per month, no
contracts required.
Google will push full VOIP usage on these, meaning |
f*****t
发帖数: 4395 | 22
it
for
plans
SIM
这么扯？
【在 j****s 的大作中提到】
: $29/month, unlimited voice (VOIP) + data，这不把carrier搞死才怪。
: －－－－－－
: Here’s the price: $199 unlocked in stores. $100 rebate online if you
: have an active and old Google account. That $100 rebate is either to buy it
: $99 online from Google’s online phone store, for using on Android
: Marketplace or for using on any Google Checkout stores. Can also be used for
: T-Mobile or AT&T pre-paid Data SIM card service at $29 per month, no
: contracts required.
: Google will push full VOIP usage on these, meaning
|
t*******e
发帖数: 298 | 23 这个是搞笑吧。
it
for
SIM
【在 j****s 的大作中提到】
: $29/month, unlimited voice (VOIP) + data，这不把carrier搞死才怪。
: －－－－－－
: Here’s the price: $199 unlocked in stores. $100 rebate online if you
: have an active and old Google account. That $100 rebate is either to buy it
: $99 online from Google’s online phone store, for using on Android
: Marketplace or for using on any Google Checkout stores. Can also be used for
: T-Mobile or AT&T pre-paid Data SIM card service at $29 per month, no
: contracts required.
: Google will push full VOIP usage on these, meaning
|
a****y
发帖数: 2548 | 24 这要是真的，其他公司怎么拉客？
【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
: 这个是搞笑吧。
:
: it
: for
: SIM
|
f****g
发帖数: 2073 | |
a9
发帖数: 21638 | 26 不是说是600吗？
pm
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 朋友的n1和我的droid放在一起对比了一下, 总体上目前这两个phone差不太多, 硬件上
: 各有一些优缺点. 软件上android 2.1比2.0改进还是很大的.
: 鉴于nexus one没正式发布, 就不公开爆料了. 如果有兴趣知道更多一些细节, 站内pm
: 我吧.
|
m****u
发帖数: 3915 | 27 还能再扯点儿么？
it
for
plans
SIM
【在 j****s 的大作中提到】
: $29/month, unlimited voice (VOIP) + data，这不把carrier搞死才怪。
: －－－－－－
: Here’s the price: $199 unlocked in stores. $100 rebate online if you
: have an active and old Google account. That $100 rebate is either to buy it
: $99 online from Google’s online phone store, for using on Android
: Marketplace or for using on any Google Checkout stores. Can also be used for
: T-Mobile or AT&T pre-paid Data SIM card service at $29 per month, no
: contracts required.
: Google will push full VOIP usage on these, meaning
|
f*****i
发帖数: 835 | 28 这个要是真的，马上换手机
it
for
SIM
【在 j****s 的大作中提到】
: $29/month, unlimited voice (VOIP) + data，这不把carrier搞死才怪。
: －－－－－－
: Here’s the price: $199 unlocked in stores. $100 rebate online if you
: have an active and old Google account. That $100 rebate is either to buy it
: $99 online from Google’s online phone store, for using on Android
: Marketplace or for using on any Google Checkout stores. Can also be used for
: T-Mobile or AT&T pre-paid Data SIM card service at $29 per month, no
: contracts required.
: Google will push full VOIP usage on these, meaning
|
t*******e
发帖数: 298 | 29 这要是真的，我买一千台运回国卖，哈哈。
【在 f*****i 的大作中提到】
: 这个要是真的，马上换手机
:
: it
: for
: SIM
|
v****e
发帖数: 10715 | 30 Tmobile ATT 搞这个不成了自杀了莫
it
for
SIM
【在 j****s 的大作中提到】
: $29/month, unlimited voice (VOIP) + data，这不把carrier搞死才怪。
: －－－－－－
: Here’s the price: $199 unlocked in stores. $100 rebate online if you
: have an active and old Google account. That $100 rebate is either to buy it
: $99 online from Google’s online phone store, for using on Android
: Marketplace or for using on any Google Checkout stores. Can also be used for
: T-Mobile or AT&T pre-paid Data SIM card service at $29 per month, no
: contracts required.
: Google will push full VOIP usage on these, meaning
|
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l*****e
发帖数: 16384 | 31 这也有点太扯了！虽然我很喜欢便宜的，但是也不能太便宜了啊！ |
l*****e
发帖数: 16384 | 32 我看一个网站上说，N1只支持Tmo的3G，并且没有voip
It Is
Extremely thin
Much nicer looking in person
Unlocked
“Super snappy!”
T-Mobile 3G capable
There’s a 4 GB micro-SD card installed
It Isn’t
AT&T 3G capable (EGDE only)
VoIP (”Calls are routed the normal way”) |
a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 33 一个内部测试机是unlocked把你们激动的。
【在 l*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我看一个网站上说，N1只支持Tmo的3G，并且没有voip
: It Is
: Extremely thin
: Much nicer looking in person
: Unlocked
: “Super snappy!”
: T-Mobile 3G capable
: There’s a 4 GB micro-SD card installed
: It Isn’t
: AT&T 3G capable (EGDE only)
|
t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 34 果粉在变革来临的前夕总是盲目的。或者是要做鸵鸟的。连WSJ都报道了的事情
还在逃避。呵呵。
另外还在幻想verizon会carry iphone。现在这个形势，除非apple给verizon
very good terms，verizon是不会让步的。apple needs verizon much more
than verizon needs apple.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 一个内部测试机是unlocked把你们激动的。
|
a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 35 是么。
iPhone 2009年在美国增长100%。
你还把Verizo说得这么强硬。最近一直都是Verizon一直在递橄榄枝。
虽然苹果有可能给Verizon iPhone
但是实际上，给T-Mobile也不给Verizon其实更有可能。
T-Mobile本来就占领的主要是城市市场，城市又是iPhone集中的地区。Verizon好多客
户都是rural区域的，其实给T-Mobile的潜在iPhone用户可能比Verizon还多。
唯一的问题是T-Mobile的3G频率问题。
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: 果粉在变革来临的前夕总是盲目的。或者是要做鸵鸟的。连WSJ都报道了的事情
: 还在逃避。呵呵。
: 另外还在幻想verizon会carry iphone。现在这个形势，除非apple给verizon
: very good terms，verizon是不会让步的。apple needs verizon much more
: than verizon needs apple.
|
t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 36 you must be kidding. anyone on t-mobile that wants an iphone would
have switched to att long time ago. the market is satuarted for
iphone on gsm. only verizon can offer apple to opportunity to almost
double the potential user base. and given the recent iphone bashing
from verizon, it clearly shows verizon has prepared to give up on
iphone and enbrace android fully.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: 是么。
: iPhone 2009年在美国增长100%。
: 你还把Verizo说得这么强硬。最近一直都是Verizon一直在递橄榄枝。
: 虽然苹果有可能给Verizon iPhone
: 但是实际上，给T-Mobile也不给Verizon其实更有可能。
: T-Mobile本来就占领的主要是城市市场，城市又是iPhone集中的地区。Verizon好多客
: 户都是rural区域的，其实给T-Mobile的潜在iPhone用户可能比Verizon还多。
: 唯一的问题是T-Mobile的3G频率问题。
|
a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 37 are you kidding?
a lot of people stayed with T-mobile for many different reasons.
such as because of their loyal customer unlimited plan or older and cheaper
plans.
and kids who have to stay because their parents pay their phone bills and
their parents stay with T-Mobile.
about Verizon
you should read this:
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091217_788391.htm
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: you must be kidding. anyone on t-mobile that wants an iphone would
: have switched to att long time ago. the market is satuarted for
: iphone on gsm. only verizon can offer apple to opportunity to almost
: double the potential user base. and given the recent iphone bashing
: from verizon, it clearly shows verizon has prepared to give up on
: iphone and enbrace android fully.
|
t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 38 you think tmo will offer the same old plan to iphone?
cheaper
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: are you kidding?
: a lot of people stayed with T-mobile for many different reasons.
: such as because of their loyal customer unlimited plan or older and cheaper
: plans.
: and kids who have to stay because their parents pay their phone bills and
: their parents stay with T-Mobile.
: about Verizon
: you should read this:
: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091217_788391.htm
|
f*****t
发帖数: 4395 | 39 iphone是不错，可ATT实在是烂泥扶不上墙，要是iphone上了verizon我还真考虑买一部 |
f*****t
发帖数: 4395 | 40
cheaper
and
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091217_788391.h
tm
我以前用T mobile完全是因为可以随意用unlocked的gsm手机，现在换到了sprint,
tmobile无论
客服，rate plan, converage 每一个比得上sprint的,实在是太垃圾了
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: are you kidding?
: a lot of people stayed with T-mobile for many different reasons.
: such as because of their loyal customer unlimited plan or older and cheaper
: plans.
: and kids who have to stay because their parents pay their phone bills and
: their parents stay with T-Mobile.
: about Verizon
: you should read this:
: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091217_788391.htm
|
|
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s*****n
发帖数: 2174 | 41 yes, I agree. I also think ATT is one factor that actually limited iPhone's
distribution. Probably a lot of people who switched from VZW to ATT for
iPhone regretted because of poor network, especially after VZW has
competitive Android phones.
【在 f*****t 的大作中提到】
: iphone是不错，可ATT实在是烂泥扶不上墙，要是iphone上了verizon我还真考虑买一部
|
a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 42 really?
T-Mobile客服应该比Sprint好。不然Sprint也不会流失客户这么多
老美论坛上都是说，所有carrier里面，就Sprint流失的客户个个都是“恨”sprint
Sprint真的每个月都流失上万用户哦
【在 f*****t 的大作中提到】
:
: cheaper
: and
: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091217_788391.h
: tm
: 我以前用T mobile完全是因为可以随意用unlocked的gsm手机，现在换到了sprint,
: tmobile无论
: 客服，rate plan, converage 每一个比得上sprint的,实在是太垃圾了
|
t***s
发帖数: 4666 | 43 and that article says nothing about verizon's eagerness to get iphone.
the same network upgrade can be used with N1 or other androids too.
and it's verizon's #1 pleasure to talk about their network.
cheaper
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: are you kidding?
: a lot of people stayed with T-mobile for many different reasons.
: such as because of their loyal customer unlimited plan or older and cheaper
: plans.
: and kids who have to stay because their parents pay their phone bills and
: their parents stay with T-Mobile.
: about Verizon
: you should read this:
: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2009/tc20091217_788391.htm
|
f********m
发帖数: 8397 | 44 I like Sprint, a lot! the only reason I left them is Droid. even though I
now I pay 73% more in Verizon.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: really?
: T-Mobile客服应该比Sprint好。不然Sprint也不会流失客户这么多
: 老美论坛上都是说，所有carrier里面，就Sprint流失的客户个个都是“恨”sprint
: Sprint真的每个月都流失上万用户哦
|
a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 45 Verizon Wireless has even made upgrades that would make its network more
capable of handling extra traffic that would be generated by the iPhone,
Verizon Wireless Chief Technology Officer Anthony Melone says in an
interview.
"We have put things in place already," Melone tells Bloomberg BusinessWeek.
"We are prepared to support that traffic."
【在 t***s 的大作中提到】
: and that article says nothing about verizon's eagerness to get iphone.
: the same network upgrade can be used with N1 or other androids too.
: and it's verizon's #1 pleasure to talk about their network.
:
: cheaper
|
e********g
发帖数: 2524 | 46 iphone是不错，不过那是几年前了，现在随便看个啥手机都有当年看到iphone的感觉
【在 f*****t 的大作中提到】
: iphone是不错，可ATT实在是烂泥扶不上墙，要是iphone上了verizon我还真考虑买一部
|
f********m
发帖数: 8397 | 47 Gee....
Why has it to be iPhone? Droid sucks data too. I don't tether and used
more than 1GB data last month. My monthly data usage was 50MB when I used
TP.
BusinessWeek.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: Verizon Wireless has even made upgrades that would make its network more
: capable of handling extra traffic that would be generated by the iPhone,
: Verizon Wireless Chief Technology Officer Anthony Melone says in an
: interview.
: "We have put things in place already," Melone tells Bloomberg BusinessWeek.
: "We are prepared to support that traffic."
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a***y
发帖数: 19743 | 48 geez
living in denial.
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】
: Gee....
: Why has it to be iPhone? Droid sucks data too. I don't tether and used
: more than 1GB data last month. My monthly data usage was 50MB when I used
: TP.
:
: BusinessWeek.
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f*****t
发帖数: 4395 | 49
现在没有真正意义上可以和iphone竞争的产品，droid也就接近
【在 e********g 的大作中提到】
: iphone是不错，不过那是几年前了，现在随便看个啥手机都有当年看到iphone的感觉
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f********m
发帖数: 8397 | 50 the iPhone part was BusinessWeeks opinion, not quoted from Verizon.
【在 a***y 的大作中提到】
: geez
: living in denial.
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