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Parenting版 - Amy Chua Is a Wimp (op-ed from NYT)
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t*******y
发帖数: 11968
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/opinion/18brooks.html?_r=1#
Sometime early last week, a large slice of educated America decided that Amy
Chua is a menace to society. Chua, as you probably know, is the Yale
professor who has written a bracing critique of what she considers the weak,
cuddling American parenting style.
Josh Haner/The New York Times
Chua didn’t let her own girls go out on play dates or sleepovers. She didn
’t let them watch TV or play video games or take part in garbage activities
like crafts. Once, one of her daughters came in second to a Korean kid in a
math competition, so Chua made the girl do 2,000 math problems a night
until she regained her supremacy. Once, her daughters gave her birthday
cards of insufficient quality. Chua rejected them and demanded new cards.
Once, she threatened to burn all of one of her daughter’s stuffed animals
unless she played a piece of music perfectly.
As a result, Chua’s daughters get straight As and have won a series of
musical competitions.
In her book, “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother,” Chua delivers a broadside
against American parenting even as she mocks herself for her own extreme “
Chinese” style. She says American parents lack authority and produce
entitled children who aren’t forced to live up to their abilities.
The furious denunciations began flooding my in-box a week ago. Chua plays
into America’s fear of national decline. Here’s a Chinese parent working
really hard (and, by the way, there are a billion more of her) and her kids
are going to crush ours. Furthermore (and this Chua doesn’t appreciate),
she is not really rebelling against American-style parenting; she is the
logical extension of the prevailing elite practices. She does everything
over-pressuring upper-middle-class parents are doing. She’s just hard core.
Her critics echoed the familiar themes. Her kids can’t possibly be happy or
truly creative. They’ll grow up skilled and compliant but without the
audacity to be great. She’s destroying their love for music. There’s a
reason Asian-American women between the ages of 15 and 24 have such high
suicide rates.
I have the opposite problem with Chua. I believe she’s coddling her
children. She’s protecting them from the most intellectually demanding
activities because she doesn’t understand what’s cognitively difficult and
what isn’t.
Practicing a piece of music for four hours requires focused attention, but
it is nowhere near as cognitively demanding as a sleepover with 14-year-old
girls. Managing status rivalries, negotiating group dynamics, understanding
social norms, navigating the distinction between self and group — these and
other social tests impose cognitive demands that blow away any intense
tutoring session or a class at Yale.
Yet mastering these arduous skills is at the very essence of achievement.
Most people work in groups. We do this because groups are much more
efficient at solving problems than individuals (swimmers are often motivated
to have their best times as part of relay teams, not in individual events).
Moreover, the performance of a group does not correlate well with the
average I.Q. of the group or even with the I.Q.’s of the smartest members.
Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Carnegie Mellon
have found that groups have a high collective intelligence when members of
a group are good at reading each others’ emotions — when they take turns
speaking, when the inputs from each member are managed fluidly, when they
detect each others’ inclinations and strengths.
Participating in a well-functioning group is really hard. It requires the
ability to trust people outside your kinship circle, read intonations and
moods, understand how the psychological pieces each person brings to the
room can and cannot fit together.
This skill set is not taught formally, but it is imparted through arduous
experiences. These are exactly the kinds of difficult experiences Chua
shelters her children from by making them rush home to hit the homework
table.
Chua would do better to see the classroom as a cognitive break from the
truly arduous tests of childhood. Where do they learn how to manage people?
Where do they learn to construct and manipulate metaphors? Where do they
learn to perceive details of a scene the way a hunter reads a landscape?
Where do they learn how to detect their own shortcomings? Where do they
learn how to put themselves in others’ minds and anticipate others’
reactions?
These and a million other skills are imparted by the informal maturity
process and are not developed if formal learning monopolizes a child’s time.
So I’m not against the way Chua pushes her daughters. And I loved her book
as a courageous and thought-provoking read. It’s also more supple than her
critics let on. I just wish she wasn’t so soft and indulgent. I wish she
recognized that in some important ways the school cafeteria is more
intellectually demanding than the library. And I hope her daughters grow up
to write their own books, and maybe learn the skills to better anticipate
how theirs will be received.
i**e
发帖数: 19242
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Thank you so much for forwarding this article!
I read it, love it and 200% agree with the arthur.

Amy
weak,
didn
activities
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【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/opinion/18brooks.html?_r=1#
: Sometime early last week, a large slice of educated America decided that Amy
: Chua is a menace to society. Chua, as you probably know, is the Yale
: professor who has written a bracing critique of what she considers the weak,
: cuddling American parenting style.
: Josh Haner/The New York Times
: Chua didn’t let her own girls go out on play dates or sleepovers. She didn
: ’t let them watch TV or play video games or take part in garbage activities
: like crafts. Once, one of her daughters came in second to a Korean kid in a
: math competition, so Chua made the girl do 2,000 math problems a night

m***o
发帖数: 1367
3
Very nice article! Ms Chua likely places much higher values on intellectual
achievements than the ability to navigate tricky school cafeteria politics.
Maybe to some degree strength in the first area can compensate the lack in
the second area.
The catch is that most parents here excel in the first area also, so I think
that's why we all tend to push kids to succeed academically because that's
the safe and known terrain for us. To allow kids to develop skills in the
second area by themselves for parents like us almost feels like giving up
control, closing our eyes, and trusting fate.
h*******a
发帖数: 573
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It also depends on the child's personality and relative strengths. For young
Einstein to spend a lot of time chatting in the school cafeteria would be
very wasteful, but the same could be beneficiary for young Obama in
developing his leadership skills.
No one mode fits all.
V*****8
发帖数: 33122
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这个只能看结果了,看看作者的小孩和虎妈的小孩哪个比较成功
k***n
发帖数: 313
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I agree!!
One's time is limited and there is a balance between group activities and
individual learning. Most of time, sleepover in another kid's home is only
for playing games overnight.

young

【在 h*******a 的大作中提到】
: It also depends on the child's personality and relative strengths. For young
: Einstein to spend a lot of time chatting in the school cafeteria would be
: very wasteful, but the same could be beneficiary for young Obama in
: developing his leadership skills.
: No one mode fits all.

y*******4
发帖数: 380
7
哈哈。就像丘处机教的杨康,江南七怪教的郭靖。开始的时候杨康的武功比郭靖好。但
人品就郭靖的好多了。最后死的是杨康。所以啊,学习好,不教孩子怎么做人,出社会
了,还是死路一条。(近来看武侠小说上脑了)

【在 V*****8 的大作中提到】
: 这个只能看结果了,看看作者的小孩和虎妈的小孩哪个比较成功
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