p*****t
发帖数: 3824 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Stock 讨论区 】
发信人: rim (可乐会捂帮帮主), 信区: Stock
标 题: 下一个崩盘的是苹果
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 18 13:31:38 2012, 美东)
新产品无创意，管理层闹矛盾 | b********6
发帖数: 35437 | | p*****t
发帖数: 3824 | 3
我手上没有啊
【在 b********6 的大作中提到】
: all out?
| d******y
发帖数: 11545 | 4
没有创新，果子的高股价必然难以维持。
吃老本还能活好多年的。
【在 p*****t 的大作中提到】
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: 我手上没有啊
| r*******d
发帖数: 958 | 5 没有强人压住场，这种大公司早晚得被内斗搞垮
公司要想好，就得有强势有远见的牛人如jobs搞dictatorship | p*****t
发帖数: 3824 | 6 Earlier this evening, Apple announced a major change up in their executive
management. Most notably, Apple Senior Vice President of iOS Software Scott
Forstall will be leaving. Forstall moved over to an advisory role effective
immediately, and will ultimately depart Apple in 2013.
As Senior Vice President of iOS Software, Scott Forstall has been a
prominent public figure at Apple. He was originally recruited to NeXT, Inc.
after college and came to Apple with Steve Jobs after Apple's acquisition of
NeXT in 1996. He has been on stage numerous times during Apple keynotes to
demo the latest iOS features. Forstall was even profiled as Apple's CEO-in-
Waiting back in January. That article, however, was a not always flattering
look at the executive who reportedly had many clashes with others at Apple.
More recently, there was described to be an internal political divide in
Apple about the use of skeuomorphism, the inclusion of certain ornamental
elements in a product that are carried over from previous tools addressing
the same task for which the elements were required for functionality.
According to the report, Apple's iOS chief Scott Forstall has long been a
proponent of incorporating skeuomorphic features in the company's software,
with Steve Jobs having supported and even originated that design direction
for Apple's products. But others such as hardware guru Jonathan Ive find the
inclusion of such features distasteful, and Apple's designers have
reportedly been divided into camps over which direction to take Apple's
products.
In light of the shakeup, Jonathan Ive is now taking over Apple's Human
Interface teams.
DaringFireball's John Gruber believes that Forstall was forced out of Apple:
Forstall is not walking away; he was pushed. Potential factors that worked
against Forstall: his design taste, engineering management, abrasive style,
and the whole iOS 6 Maps thing. I also wonder how much Forstall was
effectively protected by his close relationship with Steve Jobs —
protection which, obviously, no longer exists.
Inside Apple author Adam Lashinsky agrees with that sentiment and also cites
the Apple Maps issue as a reason for his demise:
I also heard that Forstall refused to sign the letter apologizing for the
mapping fiasco, sealing his fate at Apple.
Lashinsky is referring to a public apology posted by Apple CEO Tim Cook
about iOS 6's Maps. The Map app in iOS 6 replaced Google Maps with Apple's
own proprietary solution. After a significant amount of criticism after iOS
6's launch, Cook wrote an open letter apologizing to customers about not
meeting expectations.
Update: The Wall Street Journal confirms a similar story with their sources.
In deciding how to manage the crisis, Mr. Forstall argued that the company
could address the outcry without apologizing, as Apple had done when it
shipped iPhones with faulty antennas a few years ago, one of these people
said. Mr. Cook and others disagreed, these people said. Mr. Cook signed his
name to the apology instead.
The article also reiterates that Forstall clashed with others at Apple. One
source even said he was difficult to work with and "never fit into the
culture of Apple".
Update 2: NYTimes also has a similar story:
A senior Apple employee who asked not to be named said Mr. Forstall had also
incurred the ire of other executives after inserting himself into product
development that went beyond his role at the company. One person in touch
with Apple executives said the mood of people at the company was largely
positive about Mr. Forstall’s departure. | r*******d
发帖数: 958 | 7 感觉cook太软了，比起其他VP气场优势不明显
搞个发布会连词都离不开jobs用的
强人都喜欢找弱人接班，老毛找了个弱弱的“两个凡是”接班 | p*****t
发帖数: 3824 | 8
嗯。。。Cook 说话也是完全没有气势。。。
看看周三证券市场的反应如何
【在 r*******d 的大作中提到】
: 感觉cook太软了，比起其他VP气场优势不明显
: 搞个发布会连词都离不开jobs用的
: 强人都喜欢找弱人接班，老毛找了个弱弱的“两个凡是”接班
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