w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 1 kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not
possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there
was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I
avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July
. Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go.
The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda | o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 2 You did excellent!
July
21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| P*****a 发帖数: 2464 | 3 good job! cong!
July
21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| w*******s 发帖数: 980 | 4 Congratulations. It's an excellent race nonetheless. Chasing your dream is
more fun than achieving it without pain. | W****i 发帖数: 325 | 5 天时地利人和,下次再来。 祝大仙尽快恢复
July
21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| e*e 发帖数: 6808 | 6 Congratulations.
Poor 3:10 pacer | c****n 发帖数: 468 | 7 OMG 你可以说我事后诸葛亮,但是周三我跑long run的时候,想过whx的race,我就猜
测3;15,两个原因:
1.天气
2.训练的问题。我看了你的log,我觉得你的训练pace实在太快了!我就担心你还是缺
乏endurance。 | b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 8 It's a great race and great experience!
Have you signed up for the July marathon already?
July
21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 9
i second that... since whx didn't wear HRM, i couldn't tell how he felt in
his trainings, but for me, those easy runs were just too fast. (I know, my
trainings are also aggressive.:))
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : OMG 你可以说我事后诸葛亮,但是周三我跑long run的时候,想过whx的race,我就猜 : 测3;15,两个原因: : 1.天气 : 2.训练的问题。我看了你的log,我觉得你的训练pace实在太快了!我就担心你还是缺 : 乏endurance。
| d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 10 That's definitely a example race with high humidity, in which sweating is
not easy as usual.
Take it easy.
there
July
mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| | | d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 11 around the lake marathon
he did registered
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It's a great race and great experience! : Have you signed up for the July marathon already? : : July : 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
| l****g 发帖数: 1705 | | v***l 发帖数: 2623 | 13 3:15! Good job! And a wise strategy to make during the race!
July
21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| g*****r 发帖数: 4444 | | w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 15 I definitely lack endurance right now, only had one 20-miler after 5K
training. In principle, I was targeting a faster marathon pace in training,
and so far I'm only in the base building stage. I thought speed could make
up for the lack of endurance for now and give me a BQ time. Unfortunately it
didn't happen. Hopefully I can get back in training pretty soon.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : OMG 你可以说我事后诸葛亮,但是周三我跑long run的时候,想过whx的race,我就猜 : 测3;15,两个原因: : 1.天气 : 2.训练的问题。我看了你的log,我觉得你的训练pace实在太快了!我就担心你还是缺 : 乏endurance。
| w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 16 Well, I was hoping to make up for the lack of mileage with a little bit of
quality.:) I have not done any real tempo runs in marathon training so far
this year. I have slowed down my training runs a lot in comparison to when I
was training for 5K two months ago.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : : i second that... since whx didn't wear HRM, i couldn't tell how he felt in : his trainings, but for me, those easy runs were just too fast. (I know, my : trainings are also aggressive.:))
| w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 17 When we were passing by some neighborhoods, people brought out their
sprinklers to cool down the runners. It felt quite nice, although only for a
short moment. I pray that July 30 will be a stormy day in New England.:)
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : That's definitely a example race with high humidity, in which sweating is : not easy as usual. : Take it easy. : : there : July : mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
| W****i 发帖数: 325 | 18 那就想一下马拉松起源的那枚勇士,在希腊夏天的山路里。。。不过他跑完了就挂了。
大仙跑的不是成绩,是一种精神
a
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : When we were passing by some neighborhoods, people brought out their : sprinklers to cool down the runners. It felt quite nice, although only for a : short moment. I pray that July 30 will be a stormy day in New England.:)
| g*****r 发帖数: 4444 | 19 you sound exactly like one of my colleagues, one day he was telling me the
first marathoner who died after he ran so much to deliver the victory news.
【在 W****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那就想一下马拉松起源的那枚勇士,在希腊夏天的山路里。。。不过他跑完了就挂了。 : 大仙跑的不是成绩,是一种精神 : : a
| W****i 发帖数: 325 | 20 “SOUND LIKE"? 这起源谁说都是一个版本吧。
小声问一句,为啥跑版的人发帖,回答大都用英语?坚持不懈的说外语提高在异国他乡
的竞争力,也是坚持长跑的附带产物吧?
【在 g*****r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : you sound exactly like one of my colleagues, one day he was telling me the : first marathoner who died after he ran so much to deliver the victory news.
| | | b*****4 发帖数: 97 | 21 My friend ran her fifth marathon in New Jersey a few weeks ago when it was
about 90 degrees. In my eyes, she could've BQed a long time ago but was just
unlucky again. I told her she can be sure that any races she's doing in the
future will be better than this one.
I hope you'll have good luck in the next marathon. | f*******g 发帖数: 3304 | 22 you did not take this race very seriously, no long runs and no taper ```` 3:
15
is very impressive, under hot weather!
enjoy the course of chasing our goals --- more fun and memorable than
achieving the goal, just like pursuit butterfly ```` keep chasing, when you
stop for a break, it's there
BQ, sub3 ``` you'll be there soon, brother `````
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| p***o 发帖数: 216 | 23 就是纪念马拉松战役和传令兵的么,有一种说法,如果雅典在马拉松战役中失败的
话,欧洲就要被波斯化,历史将要彻底改写。不过历史没有那么多如果。
【在 W****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : “SOUND LIKE"? 这起源谁说都是一个版本吧。 : 小声问一句,为啥跑版的人发帖,回答大都用英语?坚持不懈的说外语提高在异国他乡 : 的竞争力,也是坚持长跑的附带产物吧?
| g*****r 发帖数: 4444 | 24 不是啊,你看我以前在跑版灌的水大都是中文. 我的输入法有时候很搞怪,切来切去切
不到中文模式。
【在 W****i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : “SOUND LIKE"? 这起源谁说都是一个版本吧。 : 小声问一句,为啥跑版的人发帖,回答大都用英语?坚持不懈的说外语提高在异国他乡 : 的竞争力,也是坚持长跑的附带产物吧?
| g********s 发帖数: 1969 | 25 Congratulations! The report is very nice.
More tempo run training definitely will help to build up more endurance
power.
Good luck to the next M | g*****r 发帖数: 4444 | 26 the humidity is devil. It takes great courage to try. hope July will be
better. | R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 27 赞report, 如果不是天气不好,应该就BQ了。。
July. Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go.
Basically, if you wear singlets at the race start, have not warmed up, and
yet are not shivering, it's too warm for the marathon.:)
21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
The first 4 miles was a bit sluggish. I didn't feel all that well and
dropped back in the 3:10 pace group (which was running faster than 3:10 pace
anyway), but caught up and passed them later. After ha
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 28 I am glad that you did not take a suicidal approach, which is what I am
worried about-:)
Have you thought about doing several weeks of base training, which almost
does not include any speed work except with a low heart rate?
When I was running with baiji yesterday, I am very impressed by his patience
, which he said is similar to the way Mark Allen trains-:)
I would highly recommend including the base training for a marathon-:)
July. Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 29 Ideally, if I don't need to work and all I need to do is running, I would
run three times a day, mostly very easy.:) But in the real world I only have
limited time to run, so I'd like to get the most out of my workouts. I do
my recovery runs often on the treadmill these days, just so that I can force
myself to slow down.
patience
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I am glad that you did not take a suicidal approach, which is what I am : worried about-:) : Have you thought about doing several weeks of base training, which almost : does not include any speed work except with a low heart rate? : When I was running with baiji yesterday, I am very impressed by his patience : , which he said is similar to the way Mark Allen trains-:) : I would highly recommend including the base training for a marathon-:) : : July. Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let
| c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 30 Understand! I hope your approach also works well!
Maybe you are developing another philosophy:)
have
force
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Ideally, if I don't need to work and all I need to do is running, I would : run three times a day, mostly very easy.:) But in the real world I only have : limited time to run, so I'd like to get the most out of my workouts. I do : my recovery runs often on the treadmill these days, just so that I can force : myself to slow down. : : patience
| | | b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 31 Right, as long as you can balance the stress and excitement from hard
trainings and the recovery and rest from easy trainings, you will do fine.
have
force
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Ideally, if I don't need to work and all I need to do is running, I would : run three times a day, mostly very easy.:) But in the real world I only have : limited time to run, so I'd like to get the most out of my workouts. I do : my recovery runs often on the treadmill these days, just so that I can force : myself to slow down. : : patience
| w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 32 hot weather is the worst enemy. I also believe you need time to make the
transition from 5k to Marathon
there
I
in July. Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let
it go. Basically, if you wear singlets at the race start, have not
warmed up, and yet are not shivering, it's too warm for the marathon.:)
mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today.
1:34:20. The first 4 miles was a bit sluggish. I didn't feel all that
well and dropped back in the 3:10 pace
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 33 Comfort, man. You need some time to forget about this marathon.
About training, i don't think you need to train even harder. marathons are
quite different from 5k. You cannot rush it. Sharpening trainings can only
give you a peak for 1-2 months. Push it any harder, your aerobic ability and
endurance may deteriorate.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Ideally, if I don't need to work and all I need to do is running, I would : run three times a day, mostly very easy.:) But in the real world I only have : limited time to run, so I'd like to get the most out of my workouts. I do : my recovery runs often on the treadmill these days, just so that I can force : myself to slow down. : : patience
| w*****h 发帖数: 1770 | 34 congrats to the great finish. BQ是迟早的事. | w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 35 come to think about it, there were only 6 weeks between my 5K race (at which
point I had no runs of more than 12 miles) and the marathon. indeed I need
some time to build endurance again.
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : hot weather is the worst enemy. I also believe you need time to make the : transition from 5k to Marathon : : there : I : in July. Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let : it go. Basically, if you wear singlets at the race start, have not : warmed up, and yet are not shivering, it's too warm for the marathon.:) : mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated today. : 1:34:20. The first 4 miles was a bit sluggish. I didn't feel all that
| w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 36 Don't worry, I've forgotten all about it already.:)
and
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Comfort, man. You need some time to forget about this marathon. : About training, i don't think you need to train even harder. marathons are : quite different from 5k. You cannot rush it. Sharpening trainings can only : give you a peak for 1-2 months. Push it any harder, your aerobic ability and : endurance may deteriorate.
| s****y 发帖数: 349 | 37 很精彩的报告,很鼓励人。
虽然比上次慢了一点,但考虑天气和之前的训练,其实还是有进步了。 | m**k 发帖数: 18660 | 38 well done Hero. and very nice report!
quite sorry about the missing BQ. but I think you made a right decision
(well, at least I think so).
heat is the biggest enemy for marathon. (so think about Beijing/Athens
Olympic
again.. :),
take a good recovery and look forward to your july report!
July. Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go.
Basically, if you wear singlets at the race start, have not warmed up, and
yet are not shivering, it's
21. He was running alone! the 3:
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 39 Congrats on finishing FM in a hot weather, you should feel good about it,
and I think you took the right strategy not to fight it too hard to get
yourself seriously injured.
If BQ is such a must-do for you, have you consider some of the downhill
courses? People in my running club are talking about Steamtown in Oct.
Personally, I would never consider a downhill course because I don't think
my knees can hold up, either do I have BQ dream (I'm a slowpoke).
Here is what the web site http://www.stea
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : kept my pace till mile 20, then shut it down because I knew BQ was not : possible today. it was warm from the start, then got pretty hot and there : was little shade. ended up with 3:15:20. on the bright side, at least I : avoided burning out, so this ain't bad for a tune up race. Next race in July : . Lesson: you can't fight the weather. sometimes, you gotta let it go. : The funny thing was that, the 3:10 pacer caught and passed me around mile 21. He was running alone! the 3:10 group just evaporated toda
| m**k 发帖数: 18660 | 40 haha..that's call cheating a BQ.
Go to CIM then :)
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Congrats on finishing FM in a hot weather, you should feel good about it, : and I think you took the right strategy not to fight it too hard to get : yourself seriously injured. : If BQ is such a must-do for you, have you consider some of the downhill : courses? People in my running club are talking about Steamtown in Oct. : Personally, I would never consider a downhill course because I don't think : my knees can hold up, either do I have BQ dream (I'm a slowpoke). : Here is what the web site http://www.stea
| | | w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 41 Thanks man. Actually, I'm not so concerned about the physical injury as
opposed to the mental burn out. Last
fall I pushed myself so hard in bay state marathon that I didn't feel like
running a fast marathon for a little
while. It was more exhausting mentally than physically. This time, at least
I'm still mentally fresh and hungry
for more.:)
I have looked up many marathon races, investigated the courses and weather
etc. I don't want an entirely
downhill course though - that's a bit cheating.:)
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Congrats on finishing FM in a hot weather, you should feel good about it, : and I think you took the right strategy not to fight it too hard to get : yourself seriously injured. : If BQ is such a must-do for you, have you consider some of the downhill : courses? People in my running club are talking about Steamtown in Oct. : Personally, I would never consider a downhill course because I don't think : my knees can hold up, either do I have BQ dream (I'm a slowpoke). : Here is what the web site http://www.stea
| T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 42 In that case, Philly Marathon maybe ideal. It's very flat so you don't have
the guilt of downhill running. The crowd is absolutely crazy. And it looks
that vivil just signed up for it and we may get a few more from NJ/NY. I'm
still contemplating, maybe just for HM.
least
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks man. Actually, I'm not so concerned about the physical injury as : opposed to the mental burn out. Last : fall I pushed myself so hard in bay state marathon that I didn't feel like : running a fast marathon for a little : while. It was more exhausting mentally than physically. This time, at least : I'm still mentally fresh and hungry : for more.:) : I have looked up many marathon races, investigated the courses and weather : etc. I don't want an entirely : downhill course though - that's a bit cheating.:)
| w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 43 I will be running CIM this year, so can't do philly. Also, philly would be
too late for 2011's boston marathon --
by then boston marathon will be filled up.
have
【在 T****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : In that case, Philly Marathon maybe ideal. It's very flat so you don't have : the guilt of downhill running. The crowd is absolutely crazy. And it looks : that vivil just signed up for it and we may get a few more from NJ/NY. I'm : still contemplating, maybe just for HM. : : least
| b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 44 I am going to "cheat" by running a downhill HM this weekend.
But i am not sure if i should go all out yet, as it may cause serious damage
...
least
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks man. Actually, I'm not so concerned about the physical injury as : opposed to the mental burn out. Last : fall I pushed myself so hard in bay state marathon that I didn't feel like : running a fast marathon for a little : while. It was more exhausting mentally than physically. This time, at least : I'm still mentally fresh and hungry : for more.:) : I have looked up many marathon races, investigated the courses and weather : etc. I don't want an entirely : downhill course though - that's a bit cheating.:)
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