w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 1 我跑马拉松之前，骑车很多的时候，曾经有一次骑车回家称出了137lbs的记录，当然那
是脱水作弊的。
训练马拉松以后，不知不觉就体重上去了，一度接近150lbs。
最近几个个礼拜我跑步的迈数是 12， 24，我的体重大约是147左右，这个礼拜我下决
心开始恢复跑
步，到今天跑了 40 迈， 骑车34迈，结果体重今天居然到了 151 lbs。
我称体重都是一样的环境：早上起床一起就绪还没有吃饭的时候称的，所以没有其他的
波动干扰。
我的感觉是，跑多了，胃口好，吃的更多，往往超过消耗的能量，所以，节食是王道啊
。怪不得
runners world 里面一半都是我讨厌的食谱啥的，其实还是有道理的。 |
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 2 I'm currently reading the book "racing weight", in order to seriously
control my diet for racing. A basic principle is that, don't eat if you are
not hungry. Only eat when you are ready to eat. And don't eat till you are
full and can't stuff any more. Eat until you are no longer hungry, and then
stop. And of course, sweets and refined carbs and fried food are absolutely
banned.
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 我跑马拉松之前，骑车很多的时候，曾经有一次骑车回家称出了137lbs的记录，当然那
: 是脱水作弊的。
: 训练马拉松以后，不知不觉就体重上去了，一度接近150lbs。
: 最近几个个礼拜我跑步的迈数是 12， 24，我的体重大约是147左右，这个礼拜我下决
: 心开始恢复跑
: 步，到今天跑了 40 迈， 骑车34迈，结果体重今天居然到了 151 lbs。
: 我称体重都是一样的环境：早上起床一起就绪还没有吃饭的时候称的，所以没有其他的
: 波动干扰。
: 我的感觉是，跑多了，胃口好，吃的更多，往往超过消耗的能量，所以，节食是王道啊
: 。怪不得
|
w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 3 Those advices are not easy to follow, for instance, when you are back
from
a long run or long ride, you feel hungry for sure. But it is hard to
know
when you are no longer hungry, at least for me :)
An easy way to reduce my weight, which I used years ago from 185 lbs to
160 lbs, is simply skipping my dinner, at most just a yogurt. It's not
healthy but
simply to follow.
you
are
are
then
absolutely
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I'm currently reading the book "racing weight", in order to seriously
: control my diet for racing. A basic principle is that, don't eat if you are
: not hungry. Only eat when you are ready to eat. And don't eat till you are
: full and can't stuff any more. Eat until you are no longer hungry, and then
: stop. And of course, sweets and refined carbs and fried food are absolutely
: banned.
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 4 That is easy. For instance, after a long run, eat a banana. 10 minutes later
, you ask yourself if you are still hungry. If so, eat another banana, and
wait another 10 minutes. And so on and so forth.
Of course, it is important to eat well enough to have the fuel for long runs
. But you need to go with whole grains and slow carbs. I recall that you
like to eat sweet bread from Chinese bakeries. Those things should
definitely be skipped. One should avoid white rice as well. I would eat
white rice
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: Those advices are not easy to follow, for instance, when you are back
: from
: a long run or long ride, you feel hungry for sure. But it is hard to
: know
: when you are no longer hungry, at least for me :)
: An easy way to reduce my weight, which I used years ago from 185 lbs to
: 160 lbs, is simply skipping my dinner, at most just a yogurt. It's not
: healthy but
: simply to follow.
:
|
w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 5 you are right, it is more important to have a constant conscience of
eating healthy and with constraints.
Sometimes, we just think, well, we earn our right to eat at will by
running xxx mpw, and that mentality is just misleading.
later
and
long runs
you
eat
fiber.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: That is easy. For instance, after a long run, eat a banana. 10 minutes later
: , you ask yourself if you are still hungry. If so, eat another banana, and
: wait another 10 minutes. And so on and so forth.
: Of course, it is important to eat well enough to have the fuel for long runs
: . But you need to go with whole grains and slow carbs. I recall that you
: like to eat sweet bread from Chinese bakeries. Those things should
: definitely be skipped. One should avoid white rice as well. I would eat
: white rice
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 6 Well, when I don't have a race coming up, I'd enjoy all kinds of food. But
when the race is on the line, especially that I'm so close to my goal, food
is the least I could sacrifice. It's a basic discipline of a runner, the
same way as how you discipline yourself to do an interval or tempo run.
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: you are right, it is more important to have a constant conscience of
: eating healthy and with constraints.
: Sometimes, we just think, well, we earn our right to eat at will by
: running xxx mpw, and that mentality is just misleading.
:
: later
: and
: long runs
: you
: eat
|
g***y
发帖数: 829 | 7 AM好像说跑步初期blood volume increase, maybe more than fat burn.不过老狼一直
骑车，不应该是这个原因。看来还是要控制别吃多了 |
p***o
发帖数: 216 | 8 你多高？150lb不算重啊。
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 我跑马拉松之前，骑车很多的时候，曾经有一次骑车回家称出了137lbs的记录，当然那
: 是脱水作弊的。
: 训练马拉松以后，不知不觉就体重上去了，一度接近150lbs。
: 最近几个个礼拜我跑步的迈数是 12， 24，我的体重大约是147左右，这个礼拜我下决
: 心开始恢复跑
: 步，到今天跑了 40 迈， 骑车34迈，结果体重今天居然到了 151 lbs。
: 我称体重都是一样的环境：早上起床一起就绪还没有吃饭的时候称的，所以没有其他的
: 波动干扰。
: 我的感觉是，跑多了，胃口好，吃的更多，往往超过消耗的能量，所以，节食是王道啊
: 。怪不得
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 9 我以前减肥的时候是不吃米饭的， 有时候中午就吃个苹果。。等体重下来以后基本就不
禁食了， 俄了就吃， 吃到饱， 体重也一直比较稳定。。。而且开始跑步以后， 对大
太油腻的东西有点自然抵触感， 做饭买菜的时候也会自然的加大素菜的量， 以及控制
肉量。。。当然时不时的腐败还是少不了的， 我记得有期RW讲过这个， 只要你控制住
饮食热量总量， 不管你吃什么， 都不会有问题。。。
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 我跑马拉松之前，骑车很多的时候，曾经有一次骑车回家称出了137lbs的记录，当然那
: 是脱水作弊的。
: 训练马拉松以后，不知不觉就体重上去了，一度接近150lbs。
: 最近几个个礼拜我跑步的迈数是 12， 24，我的体重大约是147左右，这个礼拜我下决
: 心开始恢复跑
: 步，到今天跑了 40 迈， 骑车34迈，结果体重今天居然到了 151 lbs。
: 我称体重都是一样的环境：早上起床一起就绪还没有吃饭的时候称的，所以没有其他的
: 波动干扰。
: 我的感觉是，跑多了，胃口好，吃的更多，往往超过消耗的能量，所以，节食是王道啊
: 。怪不得
|
m****i
发帖数: 1980 | 10 拜托分享一下你的基本菜谱吧？
想看看跑的这么多这么快的人到底都吃些什么？
later
runs
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: That is easy. For instance, after a long run, eat a banana. 10 minutes later
: , you ask yourself if you are still hungry. If so, eat another banana, and
: wait another 10 minutes. And so on and so forth.
: Of course, it is important to eat well enough to have the fuel for long runs
: . But you need to go with whole grains and slow carbs. I recall that you
: like to eat sweet bread from Chinese bakeries. Those things should
: definitely be skipped. One should avoid white rice as well. I would eat
: white rice
|
|
|
g***y
发帖数: 829 | 11 是呀我也想知道
是蒸馒头还是买面包
另外100% whole wheat吃多了也不太好吧？
【在 m****i 的大作中提到】
: 拜托分享一下你的基本菜谱吧？
: 想看看跑的这么多这么快的人到底都吃些什么？
:
: later
: runs
|
w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 12 这个我就没办法了，天生就不喜欢吃蔬菜，只喜欢吃肉。
就不
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我以前减肥的时候是不吃米饭的， 有时候中午就吃个苹果。。等体重下来以后基本就不
: 禁食了， 俄了就吃， 吃到饱， 体重也一直比较稳定。。。而且开始跑步以后， 对大
: 太油腻的东西有点自然抵触感， 做饭买菜的时候也会自然的加大素菜的量， 以及控制
: 肉量。。。当然时不时的腐败还是少不了的， 我记得有期RW讲过这个， 只要你控制住
: 饮食热量总量， 不管你吃什么， 都不会有问题。。。
|
w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 13 我训练马拉松的时候就完全不骑车。骑车也是最近才恢复的
【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: AM好像说跑步初期blood volume increase, maybe more than fat burn.不过老狼一直
: 骑车，不应该是这个原因。看来还是要控制别吃多了
|
m****i
发帖数: 1980 | 14 最好给出一天的菜谱，分为训练中，和比赛前
别的咱跟不上趟，学怎么吃还是很有天赋的，要不也不至于要减肥啊，哈哈
难道whx你就没有craving吗？
【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 是呀我也想知道
: 是蒸馒头还是买面包
: 另外100% whole wheat吃多了也不太好吧？
|
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 15 馒头GI高吧？
【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: 是呀我也想知道
: 是蒸馒头还是买面包
: 另外100% whole wheat吃多了也不太好吧？
|
c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 16 it takes a lot of self descipline to control weight when you are active.
are
then
absolutely
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I'm currently reading the book "racing weight", in order to seriously
: control my diet for racing. A basic principle is that, don't eat if you are
: not hungry. Only eat when you are ready to eat. And don't eat till you are
: full and can't stuff any more. Eat until you are no longer hungry, and then
: stop. And of course, sweets and refined carbs and fried food are absolutely
: banned.
|
e*e
发帖数: 6808 | 17 我一直都知道自己的问题
就是我吃太快了！！根本不给肚子反应时间
我曾有过3分钟消灭一大盆7食堂新出炉的炒饭的记录。
later
runs
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: That is easy. For instance, after a long run, eat a banana. 10 minutes later
: , you ask yourself if you are still hungry. If so, eat another banana, and
: wait another 10 minutes. And so on and so forth.
: Of course, it is important to eat well enough to have the fuel for long runs
: . But you need to go with whole grains and slow carbs. I recall that you
: like to eat sweet bread from Chinese bakeries. Those things should
: definitely be skipped. One should avoid white rice as well. I would eat
: white rice
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 18 偶像！
【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直都知道自己的问题
: 就是我吃太快了！！根本不给肚子反应时间
: 我曾有过3分钟消灭一大盆7食堂新出炉的炒饭的记录。
:
: later
: runs
|
p***r
发帖数: 4859 | 19 传说中多吃还减肥的方法？
【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直都知道自己的问题
: 就是我吃太快了！！根本不给肚子反应时间
: 我曾有过3分钟消灭一大盆7食堂新出炉的炒饭的记录。
:
: later
: runs
|
t*******g
发帖数: 1301 | 20 跑完后，狂喝水。。。+honey/judice...
先饱腹+休息再说
还有貌似运动过度才会胃口大增哦
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: Those advices are not easy to follow, for instance, when you are back
: from
: a long run or long ride, you feel hungry for sure. But it is hard to
: know
: when you are no longer hungry, at least for me :)
: An easy way to reduce my weight, which I used years ago from 185 lbs to
: 160 lbs, is simply skipping my dinner, at most just a yogurt. It's not
: healthy but
: simply to follow.
:
|
|
|
t*******g
发帖数: 1301 | 21 banana不错的;p
later
runs
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: That is easy. For instance, after a long run, eat a banana. 10 minutes later
: , you ask yourself if you are still hungry. If so, eat another banana, and
: wait another 10 minutes. And so on and so forth.
: Of course, it is important to eat well enough to have the fuel for long runs
: . But you need to go with whole grains and slow carbs. I recall that you
: like to eat sweet bread from Chinese bakeries. Those things should
: definitely be skipped. One should avoid white rice as well. I would eat
: white rice
|
t*******g
发帖数: 1301 | 22 AM是啥么？
thx
【在 g***y 的大作中提到】
: AM好像说跑步初期blood volume increase, maybe more than fat burn.不过老狼一直
: 骑车，不应该是这个原因。看来还是要控制别吃多了
|
t*******g
发帖数: 1301 | 23
就不
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~这个是西方（西医）的理论
某些体制的人，似乎连喝水都会胖哦
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我以前减肥的时候是不吃米饭的， 有时候中午就吃个苹果。。等体重下来以后基本就不
: 禁食了， 俄了就吃， 吃到饱， 体重也一直比较稳定。。。而且开始跑步以后， 对大
: 太油腻的东西有点自然抵触感， 做饭买菜的时候也会自然的加大素菜的量， 以及控制
: 肉量。。。当然时不时的腐败还是少不了的， 我记得有期RW讲过这个， 只要你控制住
: 饮食热量总量， 不管你吃什么， 都不会有问题。。。
|
t*******g
发帖数: 1301 | 24 啥是GI啊？
馒头软软又不干的比面包好吃呀
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: 馒头GI高吧？
|
t*******g
发帖数: 1301 | 25 那倒也是
自律还是王道的;p
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: it takes a lot of self descipline to control weight when you are active.
:
: are
: then
: absolutely
|
t*******g
发帖数: 1301 | 26 肯定是那炒饭特香
【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直都知道自己的问题
: 就是我吃太快了！！根本不给肚子反应时间
: 我曾有过3分钟消灭一大盆7食堂新出炉的炒饭的记录。
:
: later
: runs
|
t****n
发帖数: 1347 | 27 I don't know how this can happen to some people, anytime I run more than
35mpw, I had to eat one extra meal per day so my weight wouldn't go down. |
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 28 Now even when I run 50 miles per week I still need to control what I eat, otherwise I will gain weight. Recently
I had 5 consecutive 50+ mile weeks -- the result is that I gained about 2 or 3 pounds.
Your body adapts to the higher mileage and becomes more efficient in running, burning less calories.
【在 t****n 的大作中提到】
: I don't know how this can happen to some people, anytime I run more than
: 35mpw, I had to eat one extra meal per day so my weight wouldn't go down.
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 29 俺其实每次LR完都不想吃东西， 都是强迫自己吃点点。。。仔细想想也不是，
俄还是很饿的， 就是吃不了太多。。。
【在 t*******g 的大作中提到】
: 跑完后，狂喝水。。。+honey/judice...
: 先饱腹+休息再说
: 还有貌似运动过度才会胃口大增哦
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 30 俺基本没啥descipline, 想吃啥就吃啥， 吃梅菜扣肉也不皱眉头 ：）
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: it takes a lot of self descipline to control weight when you are active.
:
: are
: then
: absolutely
|
|
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 31 每10迈1000卡， 其实很容易补回来的，半个皮萨就够了。。。
otherwise I will gain weight. Recently
or 3 pounds.
running, burning less calories.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Now even when I run 50 miles per week I still need to control what I eat, otherwise I will gain weight. Recently
: I had 5 consecutive 50+ mile weeks -- the result is that I gained about 2 or 3 pounds.
: Your body adapts to the higher mileage and becomes more efficient in running, burning less calories.
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 32 米兔
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 俺基本没啥descipline, 想吃啥就吃啥， 吃梅菜扣肉也不皱眉头 ：）
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 33 我看到你在那里半夜吃蹄拉米苏了 ：） 你厉害啊，还会自己做这个。。
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 米兔
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 34 I rarely cook (unless you count making peanut butter sandwich as cooking),
so I don't have recipes. When I eat
at home I'm often practically a vegan, since my wife is vegetarian and I don
't eat dairy before a run. But I can
make a rough list of food according to the level of indulgence allowed. On a
scale of 0 to 10, 0 means that you
can eat as much as you want, and 10 means that you should not eat any at all
. I'm rating the food based on
the need for a runner, not based on trying to losing we
【在 m****i 的大作中提到】
: 拜托分享一下你的基本菜谱吧？
: 想看看跑的这么多这么快的人到底都吃些什么？
:
: later
: runs
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 35 厄。。晚上乱吃被发现了。。。
其实替拉米苏是最简单的Dessert了。。。
我都是一做一大盘，分给邻居帮他们增重，卡路里不是一般的高
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我看到你在那里半夜吃蹄拉米苏了 ：） 你厉害啊，还会自己做这个。。
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 36 你厉害的。。。俺也试过一次， 作的一塌糊涂。。。发现成本加起来还不如去买个。。
你贴个你做的去food版吧， 俺发包子 ：）
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 厄。。晚上乱吃被发现了。。。
: 其实替拉米苏是最简单的Dessert了。。。
: 我都是一做一大盘，分给邻居帮他们增重，卡路里不是一般的高
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 37 阿？可能是在欧洲原料很容易买到吧，我觉得好便宜
这次的分吃完了:P
等下次做了，就贴food去
。。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 你厉害的。。。俺也试过一次， 作的一塌糊涂。。。发现成本加起来还不如去买个。。
: 你贴个你做的去food版吧， 俺发包子 ：）
|
c**********t
发帖数: 98 | 38 你这个良心不是一般的坏阿
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 厄。。晚上乱吃被发现了。。。
: 其实替拉米苏是最简单的Dessert了。。。
: 我都是一做一大盘，分给邻居帮他们增重，卡路里不是一般的高
|
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 39 true, i just had 5 75+ mile week. I still had to watch what i eat.
otherwise I will gain weight. Recently
or 3 pounds.
running, burning less calories.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Now even when I run 50 miles per week I still need to control what I eat, otherwise I will gain weight. Recently
: I had 5 consecutive 50+ mile weeks -- the result is that I gained about 2 or 3 pounds.
: Your body adapts to the higher mileage and becomes more efficient in running, burning less calories.
|
g********s
发帖数: 1969 | 40 跑完先喝足水。吃时conscious eating， 问自己饱没有，慢慢吃。 晚饭有所控制，吃
低GI食物。whx 的list 很有代表。 |
|
|
l***h
发帖数: 9308 | 41 看成3分钟7大盆，第一反应就是7把叉的形象
【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直都知道自己的问题
: 就是我吃太快了！！根本不给肚子反应时间
: 我曾有过3分钟消灭一大盆7食堂新出炉的炒饭的记录。
:
: later
: runs
|
g*****r
发帖数: 4444 | 42 给我包子，我告诉你。
just kidding. 不过我知道老狼的身高。哈哈哈哈。
【在 p***o 的大作中提到】
: 你多高？150lb不算重啊。
|
c*********n
发帖数: 2120 | 43 This got interesting! Is it because the way you sweat? How many calories do
your guys get through eating? 75miles took about 0.75*140( a rough guess of
the weight-:P)*75=7875!!!
In fact after today's 18 miles, I lost 3lb when I came home even after the
32oz gatorade and the big bagel. I have kept on eating and not sure what is
going to happen tomorrow...-:)
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: true, i just had 5 75+ mile week. I still had to watch what i eat.
:
: otherwise I will gain weight. Recently
: or 3 pounds.
: running, burning less calories.
|
e****n
发帖数: 4054 | 44 可是你还那么瘦！
【在 e*e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直都知道自己的问题
: 就是我吃太快了！！根本不给肚子反应时间
: 我曾有过3分钟消灭一大盆7食堂新出炉的炒饭的记录。
:
: later
: runs
|
e****n
发帖数: 4054 | 45 至今没敢学baking就是因为没找到做完了能替我吃了的人。。
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 厄。。晚上乱吃被发现了。。。
: 其实替拉米苏是最简单的Dessert了。。。
: 我都是一做一大盘，分给邻居帮他们增重，卡路里不是一般的高
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 46 其实脱的主要是水， 消耗3500卡路里才减掉1磅脂肪。。。1个大皮萨就有将近2000卡，
很容易就吃回来的 ：）
do
of
is
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: This got interesting! Is it because the way you sweat? How many calories do
: your guys get through eating? 75miles took about 0.75*140( a rough guess of
: the weight-:P)*75=7875!!!
: In fact after today's 18 miles, I lost 3lb when I came home even after the
: 32oz gatorade and the big bagel. I have kept on eating and not sure what is
: going to happen tomorrow...-:)
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 47 学会了会有很多想吃的人等着的 ：）
【在 e****n 的大作中提到】
: 至今没敢学baking就是因为没找到做完了能替我吃了的人。。
|
c*********n
发帖数: 2120 | 48 After making my first cheesecake, I never made again and also reduced the
amount of cheesecake I ate-:)
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 学会了会有很多想吃的人等着的 ：）
|
c*********n
发帖数: 2120 | 49 Have you thought about becoming a vegetarian? Looks except Salmon and sushi,
you are almost there-:)
don
a
all
list
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I rarely cook (unless you count making peanut butter sandwich as cooking),
: so I don't have recipes. When I eat
: at home I'm often practically a vegan, since my wife is vegetarian and I don
: 't eat dairy before a run. But I can
: make a rough list of food according to the level of indulgence allowed. On a
: scale of 0 to 10, 0 means that you
: can eat as much as you want, and 10 means that you should not eat any at all
: . I'm rating the food based on
: the need for a runner, not based on trying to losing we
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 50 If being a vegetarian optimizes my performance then I would. But that isn't
quite the case. I believe eating
salmon, eggs, milk protein and steak makes me stronger.
sushi,
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: Have you thought about becoming a vegetarian? Looks except Salmon and sushi,
: you are almost there-:)
:
: don
: a
: all
: list
|
|
|
c*********n
发帖数: 2120 | 51 Both Dave Scott and Scott Jurek are vegetarians...
t
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: If being a vegetarian optimizes my performance then I would. But that isn't
: quite the case. I believe eating
: salmon, eggs, milk protein and steak makes me stronger.
:
: sushi,
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 52 Both are ultra athletes. A 100 miler or an ironman is very different from a
marathon.
Also, my body type is very different. I have a thicker frame and much thicker legs than these guys. I need
more muscle strength to carry my weight. I would look up to athletes with higher BMI such as Lance
Armstrong and Dean Karnazes. In fact, Lance Armstrong's height and weight are very close to mine.
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: Both Dave Scott and Scott Jurek are vegetarians...
:
: t
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 53 vegetarian好不好对跑步？
我有时候担心自己吃肉不够
每个星期都要提醒自己吃点肉。。。
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: Both Dave Scott and Scott Jurek are vegetarians...
:
: t
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 54 By the way, there is a big difference between vegetarian and vegan. You take
out cheese, milk, eggs, and you'll
be missing a lot. Scott Jurek is vegan which is very rare among top athletes
. While there is no question that
Scott Jurek is amazing at 100+ mile distance, his marathon PR (2:38) isn't
of elite caliber. Would he be able to
run a faster marathon if he eats dairy and meat again? Nobody would know. |
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 55 所以是不是要吃很多的Carb
我找到我胖的原因了。。。
take
athletes
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: By the way, there is a big difference between vegetarian and vegan. You take
: out cheese, milk, eggs, and you'll
: be missing a lot. Scott Jurek is vegan which is very rare among top athletes
: . While there is no question that
: Scott Jurek is amazing at 100+ mile distance, his marathon PR (2:38) isn't
: of elite caliber. Would he be able to
: run a faster marathon if he eats dairy and meat again? Nobody would know.
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 56 wegetarian会容易却蛋白质， 特别是连牛奶鸡蛋都不吃的。。还有些微量元素也要补
。。
不过最关键的问题是， 肉多好吃啊~~~~~
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: vegetarian好不好对跑步？
: 我有时候担心自己吃肉不够
: 每个星期都要提醒自己吃点肉。。。
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 57 真不爱吃。。。
平时想不起来吃
除非是做个排骨什么的
我大学以前连炒鸡蛋都不吃
牛奶和鱼倒是没断过
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: wegetarian会容易却蛋白质， 特别是连牛奶鸡蛋都不吃的。。还有些微量元素也要补
: 。。
: 不过最关键的问题是， 肉多好吃啊~~~~~
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 58 晕， 你这蛋糕/Carb胡乱吃， 没见过减肥减的比你更happy的了。。
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 所以是不是要吃很多的Carb
: 我找到我胖的原因了。。。
:
: take
: athletes
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 59 那我4个月也减了10几磅了嘛。。。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 晕， 你这蛋糕/Carb胡乱吃， 没见过减肥减的比你更happy的了。。
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 60 I often go to a Malaysian restaurant with my family, and order a duck noodle
soup which contains a duck leg.
My wife says, "somewhere there is a duck missing one leg."
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: wegetarian会容易却蛋白质， 特别是连牛奶鸡蛋都不吃的。。还有些微量元素也要补
: 。。
: 不过最关键的问题是， 肉多好吃啊~~~~~
|
|
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 61 牛奶和鱼都是好东西。。。既然不爱吃肉， 估计就是甜食吃多了。。
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 真不爱吃。。。
: 平时想不起来吃
: 除非是做个排骨什么的
: 我大学以前连炒鸡蛋都不吃
: 牛奶和鱼倒是没断过
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 62 鸭子是凉性的
我妈说冬天要少吃
noodle
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I often go to a Malaysian restaurant with my family, and order a duck noodle
: soup which contains a duck leg.
: My wife says, "somewhere there is a duck missing one leg."
|
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 63 haha...
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 鸭子是凉性的
: 我妈说冬天要少吃
:
: noodle
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 64 Does it apply to people living on the southern hemisphere as well? What
about the equator? :)
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 鸭子是凉性的
: 我妈说冬天要少吃
:
: noodle
|
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 65 ppl at the equator need a lot of ducks
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Does it apply to people living on the southern hemisphere as well? What
: about the equator? :)
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 66 我今天没有吃替拉米苏。。。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 牛奶和鱼都是好东西。。。既然不爱吃肉， 估计就是甜食吃多了。。
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 67 lol. actually I enjoy the duck soup more and more these days. must be the
summer!
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: ppl at the equator need a lot of ducks
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 68 我妈说要吃应季节的菜和肉。。。
equator的人民就不要吃大白菜和萝卜了 :D
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Does it apply to people living on the southern hemisphere as well? What
: about the equator? :)
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 69 在英国这么阴郁怎么可能不吃甜的
北欧人民冬天吃的更多
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 牛奶和鱼都是好东西。。。既然不爱吃肉， 估计就是甜食吃多了。。
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 70 晚上你睡前俄了就会想吃了。。。
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 我今天没有吃替拉米苏。。。
|
|
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 71 吃完了。。。
所以我吃了俩桔子。。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 晚上你睡前俄了就会想吃了。。。
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 72 俺一向冬天喝冰啤， 夏天吃火锅。。
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 鸭子是凉性的
: 我妈说冬天要少吃
:
: noodle
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 73 我也是
恩
啤酒+冰激凌
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 俺一向冬天喝冰啤， 夏天吃火锅。。
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 74 I can't stand the europian style of eating. I was in Paris recently and went
out with friends for "dinner". So we
drank beer till after 10pm. Finally I couldn't help but asked, "are we gonna
get some real food?" Most of them
were like, "no I don't really feel like eating tonight." Except one indian
guy, who took a cheese sandwich out of
his bag and started eating it... Similarly, when I was in Belgium, the "
dinner" consists of drinking for two hours
and finally a little bit of meat to curb the
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 在英国这么阴郁怎么可能不吃甜的
: 北欧人民冬天吃的更多
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 75 哦，对了你时间跟我们不一样， 你那几点了？
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 吃完了。。。
: 所以我吃了俩桔子。。
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 76 告你妈去。。
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 我也是
: 恩
: 啤酒+冰激凌
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 77 哈哈哈
法国人很晚才吃饭
我有次7点多跑到饭店，都没人
Belgium挺好的，那么多好喝的啤酒！！！
再说了，啤酒不就喝饱了。。。：P
恩。。。你说的我很想念布鲁日的鱼汤和布鲁塞尔的啤酒。。。
gonna
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I can't stand the europian style of eating. I was in Paris recently and went
: out with friends for "dinner". So we
: drank beer till after 10pm. Finally I couldn't help but asked, "are we gonna
: get some real food?" Most of them
: were like, "no I don't really feel like eating tonight." Except one indian
: guy, who took a cheese sandwich out of
: his bag and started eating it... Similarly, when I was in Belgium, the "
: dinner" consists of drinking for two hours
: and finally a little bit of meat to curb the
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 78 FT。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 告你妈去。。
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 79 2点了，am
我上次从美国到英国时差调了一个月。。。。
这次估计也是一个月。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 哦，对了你时间跟我们不一样， 你那几点了？
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 80 晕， 歇了吧， 明天早起跑步。。。
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 2点了，am
: 我上次从美国到英国时差调了一个月。。。。
: 这次估计也是一个月。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
|
|
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 81 明天准备游泳了
说不定我哪天想tri了
攒攒base
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 晕， 歇了吧， 明天早起跑步。。。
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 82 你欧洲都玩遍了？ 这都是哪个国家的地方啊？
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈哈
: 法国人很晚才吃饭
: 我有次7点多跑到饭店，都没人
: Belgium挺好的，那么多好喝的啤酒！！！
: 再说了，啤酒不就喝饱了。。。：P
: 恩。。。你说的我很想念布鲁日的鱼汤和布鲁塞尔的啤酒。。。
:
: gonna
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 83 其实游泳挺好的， 也挺消耗能量的， 又不会伤。。。
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 明天准备游泳了
: 说不定我哪天想tri了
: 攒攒base
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 84 我估计也就在英国待三年，有时间就到处跑
其实也没去过多少地方
布鲁日是北方威尼斯，在比利时，布鲁塞尔。。比利时的首都阿。。。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 你欧洲都玩遍了？ 这都是哪个国家的地方啊？
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 85 There is injury risk in swimming as well -- the shoulder. I have suffered
shoulder injuries until I started to
learn from total immersion.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 其实游泳挺好的， 也挺消耗能量的， 又不会伤。。。
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 86 我游的很休闲。。。:P
觉得最近有氧能力下降的快
游泳冲冲
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: There is injury risk in swimming as well -- the shoulder. I have suffered
: shoulder injuries until I started to
: learn from total immersion.
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 87 哦， 我比较文盲， 好了不和你聊了， 溜狗去了。。good night~
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 我估计也就在英国待三年，有时间就到处跑
: 其实也没去过多少地方
: 布鲁日是北方威尼斯，在比利时，布鲁塞尔。。比利时的首都阿。。。
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 88 I feel that swimming doesn't improve my cardiovascular fitness much. Your
heart rate is slower in water.
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 我游的很休闲。。。:P
: 觉得最近有氧能力下降的快
: 游泳冲冲
|
R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 89 对， 自由泳可能肩膀会疼。。
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: There is injury risk in swimming as well -- the shoulder. I have suffered
: shoulder injuries until I started to
: learn from total immersion.
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 90 阿？我都能游出汗的。。。
我还以为很能练的
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I feel that swimming doesn't improve my cardiovascular fitness much. Your
: heart rate is slower in water.
|
|
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 91 溜狗去。。
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 对， 自由泳可能肩膀会疼。。
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | |
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 93 Of course it consumes a lot of energy. But it is just very different from
running. I don't feel that swimming can
help running at all, and running cannot help with swimming either.
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 阿？我都能游出汗的。。。
: 我还以为很能练的
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 94 ：D
那我过两年tri
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Of course it consumes a lot of energy. But it is just very different from
: running. I don't feel that swimming can
: help running at all, and running cannot help with swimming either.
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 95 I was reading "racing weight" today, and it gave an interesting comparison
of endurance athletes' body,
including crosscountry skiers, rowers, runners, cyclists, swimmers, and
triathletes. It pointed out that the
world's top triathletes are almost never elite runners nor elite cyclists.
But there have been elite swimmers
who made successful transition to triathlon. In fact, I have always thought
that my body is not built for
swimming nor running, but is better built for cycling. Unfortunately cy
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: ：D
: 那我过两年tri
|
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 96 I just learned that Lance was also a triathlete.
He was racing Mark Allen and Dave Scott at the age of 15 in this video:
thought
cycling
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I was reading "racing weight" today, and it gave an interesting comparison
: of endurance athletes' body,
: including crosscountry skiers, rowers, runners, cyclists, swimmers, and
: triathletes. It pointed out that the
: world's top triathletes are almost never elite runners nor elite cyclists.
: But there have been elite swimmers
: who made successful transition to triathlon. In fact, I have always thought
: that my body is not built for
: swimming nor running, but is better built for cycling. Unfortunately cy
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 97 很有意思
我是说，我研究的一个topic是cycling promotion
大部分人都是在做enviromental factor
其实psychological才是对美国人群最关键的问题
都不拿来当utility，拿来当exercise or recreation
另外，你body not built for running你还跑得那么快，呵呵
thought
cycling
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I was reading "racing weight" today, and it gave an interesting comparison
: of endurance athletes' body,
: including crosscountry skiers, rowers, runners, cyclists, swimmers, and
: triathletes. It pointed out that the
: world's top triathletes are almost never elite runners nor elite cyclists.
: But there have been elite swimmers
: who made successful transition to triathlon. In fact, I have always thought
: that my body is not built for
: swimming nor running, but is better built for cycling. Unfortunately cy
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 98 我觉得crosscountry ski非常非常的demanding
非常非常
thought
cycling
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I was reading "racing weight" today, and it gave an interesting comparison
: of endurance athletes' body,
: including crosscountry skiers, rowers, runners, cyclists, swimmers, and
: triathletes. It pointed out that the
: world's top triathletes are almost never elite runners nor elite cyclists.
: But there have been elite swimmers
: who made successful transition to triathlon. In fact, I have always thought
: that my body is not built for
: swimming nor running, but is better built for cycling. Unfortunately cy
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 99 Yes. His running is his weakest leg.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: I just learned that Lance was also a triathlete.
: He was racing Mark Allen and Dave Scott at the age of 15 in this video:
:
: thought
: cycling
|
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 100 more than 2 minutes off the pace of the elites cannot be called "fast".
However I'd like to think that I can get
close to Lance Armstrong's marathon time one day. His body type is close to
mine.
【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得crosscountry ski非常非常的demanding
: 非常非常
:
: thought
: cycling
|
|
|
l****g
发帖数: 1705 | 101 无语了
以蜗牛速度爬床上睡觉了。。。
奔吧，1：1和amstrong的一起奔：-）
to
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: more than 2 minutes off the pace of the elites cannot be called "fast".
: However I'd like to think that I can get
: close to Lance Armstrong's marathon time one day. His body type is close to
: mine.
|
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 102 what's the difference between the body types of runners, cyclists and
swimmers?
thought
cycling
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I was reading "racing weight" today, and it gave an interesting comparison
: of endurance athletes' body,
: including crosscountry skiers, rowers, runners, cyclists, swimmers, and
: triathletes. It pointed out that the
: world's top triathletes are almost never elite runners nor elite cyclists.
: But there have been elite swimmers
: who made successful transition to triathlon. In fact, I have always thought
: that my body is not built for
: swimming nor running, but is better built for cycling. Unfortunately cy
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c*********n
发帖数: 2120 | 103 How did you conclude on your body type?
I was the same weight and height as Haile Gebrselassie several days ago, but
my time is 2 hours more than his-:(
to
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: more than 2 minutes off the pace of the elites cannot be called "fast".
: However I'd like to think that I can get
: close to Lance Armstrong's marathon time one day. His body type is close to
: mine.
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 104 We are talking about elites here. Swimmers are a different breed. They are
tall and have long upper body, big
feet -- these are the opposite of the qualities of elite runners. Elite
runners have thin calfs which allows them
to run efficiently. Cyclists on the other hand have more powerful calfs.
There are roughly two different types of
cyclists -- climbers and sprinters. The former are lighter, and have a high
power/weight ratio. The latter are
heavier and more powerful, but lacks the endurance.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: what's the difference between the body types of runners, cyclists and
: swimmers?
:
: thought
: cycling
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 105 Interesting.. i think i may be a climber cyclist type then.
I used to climb hills on bike everyday in middle school and high school.:)
high
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: We are talking about elites here. Swimmers are a different breed. They are
: tall and have long upper body, big
: feet -- these are the opposite of the qualities of elite runners. Elite
: runners have thin calfs which allows them
: to run efficiently. Cyclists on the other hand have more powerful calfs.
: There are roughly two different types of
: cyclists -- climbers and sprinters. The former are lighter, and have a high
: power/weight ratio. The latter are
: heavier and more powerful, but lacks the endurance.
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 106 Well we have similar height, weight, thick calfs, and moderately built upper
body. I can't say much more than
that.:)
but
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: How did you conclude on your body type?
: I was the same weight and height as Haile Gebrselassie several days ago, but
: my time is 2 hours more than his-:(
:
: to
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 107 Another interesting fact pointed out in the book is that, while elite male
marathoners are shorter than average,
most elite female marathoners are slightly taller than the average woman.
but
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: How did you conclude on your body type?
: I was the same weight and height as Haile Gebrselassie several days ago, but
: my time is 2 hours more than his-:(
:
: to
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c*********n
发帖数: 2120 | 108 I am not going to get Heile's calf and upper body, so I'd better find
another idol for the matching-:)
upper
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Well we have similar height, weight, thick calfs, and moderately built upper
: body. I can't say much more than
: that.:)
:
: but
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 109 so 165-175cm is the best height for long distance running?
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Another interesting fact pointed out in the book is that, while elite male
: marathoners are shorter than average,
: most elite female marathoners are slightly taller than the average woman.
:
: but
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 110 how about Shakira?
【在 c*********n 的大作中提到】
: I am not going to get Heile's calf and upper body, so I'd better find
: another idol for the matching-:)
:
: upper
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 111 statistically, that is probably true.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: so 165-175cm is the best height for long distance running?
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c*********n
发帖数: 2120 | 112 Who is this?
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: how about Shakira?
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m****i
发帖数: 1980 | 113 runner got legs, cyclist got abs, swimmer got all (legs,abs,arms)
high
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: We are talking about elites here. Swimmers are a different breed. They are
: tall and have long upper body, big
: feet -- these are the opposite of the qualities of elite runners. Elite
: runners have thin calfs which allows them
: to run efficiently. Cyclists on the other hand have more powerful calfs.
: There are roughly two different types of
: cyclists -- climbers and sprinters. The former are lighter, and have a high
: power/weight ratio. The latter are
: heavier and more powerful, but lacks the endurance.
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m****i
发帖数: 1980 | 114 thanks!
so lettuces and carrot are the best for runner?
don
a
all
list
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I rarely cook (unless you count making peanut butter sandwich as cooking),
: so I don't have recipes. When I eat
: at home I'm often practically a vegan, since my wife is vegetarian and I don
: 't eat dairy before a run. But I can
: make a rough list of food according to the level of indulgence allowed. On a
: scale of 0 to 10, 0 means that you
: can eat as much as you want, and 10 means that you should not eat any at all
: . I'm rating the food based on
: the need for a runner, not based on trying to losing we
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m****i
发帖数: 1980 | 115 问自己饱没有，慢慢吃
………………………………这个好可爱哦，想象中自己坐那吃饭，然后反复问自己“你
饱了吗？”
现在发现这个很重要，因为一吃饭我就得对付我家捣蛋的娃，我得反复问他饱了嘛？
等到我自己吃完的时候，都忘记自己吃了啥吃了多少了。。。
【在 g********s 的大作中提到】
: 跑完先喝足水。吃时conscious eating， 问自己饱没有，慢慢吃。 晚饭有所控制，吃
: 低GI食物。whx 的list 很有代表。
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m****i
发帖数: 1980 | 116 嗨！深有同感！
我早就有了能帮我吃的人也还一直不敢学baking，因为自己没有自制力。
还有就是领导很热爱并且很会baking，老是惦记着实践，为了保持我一贯支持他的个人
爱好的形象，我只好把工具配料到处藏，常常他买回来就再找不到了，有时候他很生气
，因为一切就绪就发现什么和什么找不到，然后就出去现买，这种时候，就是我悲剧增
肥的时刻了。。。一般第二天我立马打包带去公司和同事们一起分享：）
【在 e****n 的大作中提到】
: 至今没敢学baking就是因为没找到做完了能替我吃了的人。。
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 117 No. Lettuce and carrots are completely useless food that do nothing other
than filling up your stomach.
【在 m****i 的大作中提到】
: thanks!
: so lettuces and carrot are the best for runner?
:
: don
: a
: all
: list
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