w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 1 Around the lake 24 hour ultra.
The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less
than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in
24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get
real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely
painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot
and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So
I tried to run on grass |
g*****r 发帖数: 4444 | |
g*****r 发帖数: 4444 | 3 pat pat. 人算不如天算,以后不要算得太满了。 |
R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 4 Hero, 有胆色报名已经很牛X了, I know you will be back!
我觉得ultra的training还是不一样, 不train就去跑的确可能不适应。。
get
So
well
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 5 I'm very disappointed with this DNF. When I started walking at mile 59, I
believe I was second in distance covered among all 24-hour and even 12-hour
runner. I was running when almost everybody were taking long walk breaks. I
had a great chance to make top 3 finish in the race, if it weren't for the
stupid ankle. |
d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 6 已经很了不起了,
respect the distance, welcome to california for the western states 100
mile in the future, I am sure you can make it.
less
cake in
to get
forefoot
least. So
After
well
time, I
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 7 cft,下次可以先跑慢点。
get
So
well
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 8 take it easy, you have just finished a BQ time marathon recently.
this is just a trial,experience is what you got.
I
hour
breaks. I
the
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I'm very disappointed with this DNF. When I started walking at mile 59, I : believe I was second in distance covered among all 24-hour and even 12-hour : runner. I was running when almost everybody were taking long walk breaks. I : had a great chance to make top 3 finish in the race, if it weren't for the : stupid ankle.
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 9 我上周跑完sfm,也ankle pain了。
I
hour
breaks. I
the
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I'm very disappointed with this DNF. When I started walking at mile 59, I : believe I was second in distance covered among all 24-hour and even 12-hour : runner. I was running when almost everybody were taking long walk breaks. I : had a great chance to make top 3 finish in the race, if it weren't for the : stupid ankle.
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 10 patpat, 有伤退出是明智决定, 不争一时长短, 俺今天的Long-run也
因为脚背受伤没跑完。。
hour
I
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I'm very disappointed with this DNF. When I started walking at mile 59, I : believe I was second in distance covered among all 24-hour and even 12-hour : runner. I was running when almost everybody were taking long walk breaks. I : had a great chance to make top 3 finish in the race, if it weren't for the : stupid ankle.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 11 I had sore ankle at the end of my 50-miler as well, but it wasn't nearly
this bad. And when I get ankle pain before, it was always near the end of
the race and I could just tough it out. This time, I still got more than 11
hours to go -- that was just impossible.
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我上周跑完sfm,也ankle pain了。 : : I : hour : breaks. I : the
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 12 我发现还是跑不快。明天的pace run估计够呛。
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我上周跑完sfm,也ankle pain了。 : : I : hour : breaks. I : the
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 13 I had no choice. I really wanted to make 100 miles. I would have stayed in
the race if I could just walk. But even walking (um, for 11 hours...) would
be impossible at that point.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : patpat, 有伤退出是明智决定, 不争一时长短, 俺今天的Long-run也 : 因为脚背受伤没跑完。。 : : hour : I
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 14 没事儿,留得青山在 不怕没柴烧。
回家洗洗睡觉。吃点好的休息一周重新上路。
of
11
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I had sore ankle at the end of my 50-miler as well, but it wasn't nearly : this bad. And when I get ankle pain before, it was always near the end of : the race and I could just tough it out. This time, I still got more than 11 : hours to go -- that was just impossible.
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 15 反正你得收着点 伤了就惨了。
你现在状况很好,体重也足够轻,能跑出好成绩。
【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我发现还是跑不快。明天的pace run估计够呛。
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 16 I'm out for at least one week, if not a month. This ankle injury is a
serious one.
【在 d*********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 没事儿,留得青山在 不怕没柴烧。 : 回家洗洗睡觉。吃点好的休息一周重新上路。 : : of : 11
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d*********6 发帖数: 6115 | 17 有空去看看医生,要是受伤了别耽误了。
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I'm out for at least one week, if not a month. This ankle injury is a : serious one.
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 18 that was brutal!
get
So
well
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 19 did you take any break during the first 50 miles?
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So
well
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 20 I started taking a little bit walking break after mile 31 -- brief ones just
so that I can eat a handful of pretzels and potatoes -- I didn't want to
waste time by eating while staying at the aid station.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : did you take any break during the first 50 miles? : : get : So : well
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 21 i read the book slow burn, the author said you'd better to have planned
breaks as soon as the race starts, like 4.5 hours run, 0.5 hour walk or rest
, and so on.
maybe you can try it next time.
just
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I started taking a little bit walking break after mile 31 -- brief ones just : so that I can eat a handful of pretzels and potatoes -- I didn't want to : waste time by eating while staying at the aid station.
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 22 That's right. I didn't need walking breaks in my 50 miler and I thought I
could try run through this one as well. My experience prove otherwise. 100
is definitely brutal on the body.
rest
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : i read the book slow burn, the author said you'd better to have planned : breaks as soon as the race starts, like 4.5 hours run, 0.5 hour walk or rest : , and so on. : maybe you can try it next time. : : just
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m******r 发帖数: 9604 | 23 cft//have a good recovery |
b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 24 dude, you are too fearless...
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : That's right. I didn't need walking breaks in my 50 miler and I thought I : could try run through this one as well. My experience prove otherwise. 100 : is definitely brutal on the body. : : rest
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e*e 发帖数: 6808 | 25 Still awesome performance. Your body(ankle) for a break, give it a break.
Hope the injury will be gone soon!
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I'm out for at least one week, if not a month. This ankle injury is a : serious one.
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d****i 发帖数: 4354 | 26 看起来这种比赛要早早休息,take walking break,比如一小时跑个5迈,然后休息或
走,比较好一些。
get
So
well
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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n****u 发帖数: 490 | 27 patpat,这么长距离难免有些预料外的事情
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So
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【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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c*********n 发帖数: 2120 | 28 You are just keeping on writing legendary! Be proud of yourself!
I guess not enough break is one of the mistake you made. You learn and you
get better!
Take care of the ankle! Hope it is not too serious...
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So
well
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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j*****n 发帖数: 943 | 29 Don't be disappointed. I remember you said you enjoy the thriller of
running. You had did your best in the race. I would be real proud of
myself if I were you.
I
hour
breaks. I
the
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I'm very disappointed with this DNF. When I started walking at mile 59, I : believe I was second in distance covered among all 24-hour and even 12-hour : runner. I was running when almost everybody were taking long walk breaks. I : had a great chance to make top 3 finish in the race, if it weren't for the : stupid ankle.
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g***y 发帖数: 829 | 30 了不起呀 第二次就会好得多
我要不是心疼那500多刀现在也在那跑完第一个马拉松了,而且会扣你一两圈哟 |
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m****i 发帖数: 1980 | 31 how old are you? 26 yrs old?
boy, you have a long long running life ahead of you, no rush, take you time
to heal and take it easy, you will be back much stronger:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYcQFaX07g&feature=fvsr
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So
well
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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y******n 发帖数: 4527 | 32 脚踝和膝盖是长距离跑中的比肌肉和能量等等任何其他因素都更容易出问题的地方,至
少对我来说,我会一直这样警告自己。
上次的全马我就经历了膝盖痛,明显的undertrain,导致我的关节无法适应这样冲击。
跑完之后我的膝盖至少痛了一个月,无法跑步。
并且,冰敷是跑后休息的标志,冰敷之后绝对不能再跑,否则伤痛会加倍。
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So
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【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 34 pat pat, 幸亏在100m之前发现问题。
我早就觉得,跑ultra, 稍微训练一下去,只要速度足够慢,心肺,甚至大部分的肌肉
都没问题; 问题在于跑马拉松都不会出现的 韧带,筋骨连接处,前脚掌(如果你是像
我这样ball landing), 脚跟(如果你是heel striker), 膝关节,踝关节。
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T****a 发帖数: 4651 | 35 pat pat speedy recovery. the coach in our club like to say in a strong
British accent: there is always next year, what's the hurry.
he is in 60s, you should have many many many more years
less
cake in
to get
forefoot
least. So
After
well
time, I
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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v****a 发帖数: 389 | 37 不知道你以前跑过的最长距离是多少?一次加太多是很危险的。我想加幅怎么也不能超
过20%吧。
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 38 50mi。
我觉得可能是没估计到100和50的区别,跑太快了。
【在 v****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不知道你以前跑过的最长距离是多少?一次加太多是很危险的。我想加幅怎么也不能超 : 过20%吧。
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v****a 发帖数: 389 | 39 勇气可嘉。但是如果训练中没有跑超过50m,感觉有些不够。
【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 50mi。 : 我觉得可能是没估计到100和50的区别,跑太快了。
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 40 training for ultra is different, I am not sure that you should run a 50m
in training, maybe a very high MPW?
【在 v****a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 勇气可嘉。但是如果训练中没有跑超过50m,感觉有些不够。
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w********6 发帖数: 12977 | 41 Just googled an ultra training plan for 100m, indeed they have long run
from 25-50m every 3-4 week, the last week before tapering, it is every
week a long run of 35-45m, man, that is tough!!!! |
w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 42 I've had worse ankle injuries before (on the other foot, actually). I know there isn't any ruptured tendon
or anything like that, just a very bad inflammation. My right foot is
swollen like a baby's foot, and I cannot flex my ankle to less than 90
degree. But I can walk just fine on forefoot now. I'll be staying at home
for a couple days, no extended walking.
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 不是我乌鸦嘴,赶紧去看医生,别是骨裂。
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 43 Yes, I didn't run long enough in training, and I didn't have a good tapering
. I took 100m too lightly. I'm going to start doing very long weekend runs
when I recover from this.
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Just googled an ultra training plan for 100m, indeed they have long run : from 25-50m every 3-4 week, the last week before tapering, it is every : week a long run of 35-45m, man, that is tough!!!!
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 44 Actually I don't think I ran too fast at the beginning. The sign of running
too fast a pace is hitting the wall and worn-out of the muscle -- neither of
which happened to me. In fact, you are supposed to run a extremely positive
split in a 24-hour race. When Scott Jurek set the American record in 24-
hour run, he started at 7:00 pace and finished averaging 8:34 pace.
Similarly, when Yiannis Kouros set the world record in 24-hour run, he ran
the first 3 hours at 6:52 pace, and ended up averaging
【在 f*******d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 50mi。 : 我觉得可能是没估计到100和50的区别,跑太快了。
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 45 maybe your shoes caused your injury?
there isn't any ruptured tendon
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : I've had worse ankle injuries before (on the other foot, actually). I know there isn't any ruptured tendon : or anything like that, just a very bad inflammation. My right foot is : swollen like a baby's foot, and I cannot flex my ankle to less than 90 : degree. But I can walk just fine on forefoot now. I'll be staying at home : for a couple days, no extended walking.
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w*****h 发帖数: 1770 | 46 只有顶礼膜拜了. ...
希望不是穿了太轻的鞋.
早早康复!! |
w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 47 I don't think it could be attributed to my shoes. For instance, it wouldn't
explain why my left foot feels completely fine. I actually suspect that
kicking a soccer ball a few times when I took my daughter out had affected
my right ankle, but it wasn't anything intense. After all, I had no problem
during the first 50 miles. A 24 hour run is so long that any minor weakness
can and likely will be exposed. I would attribute the main cause of my
injury to insufficient recovery from my marathon. Also
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : maybe your shoes caused your injury? : : there isn't any ruptured tendon
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r****y 发帖数: 3412 | 48 真的要敬仰一下。。。
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【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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c*******r 发帖数: 13580 | 49 take it easy. it just proves that you are mortal too:)
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【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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m**k 发帖数: 18660 | 50 you are still the hero. !
and wish you recover soon.
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So
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【在 w****1 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Around the lake 24 hour ultra. : The race started 7pm last night. I would cover the first 50 miles in less : than 9 hours with ease. At the time 100 miles felt like a piece of cake in : 24 hours, and I was easily on pace to 120. But my right ankle started to get : real sore in the front. I couldn't flex my ankle and it was extremely : painful to land on my heels. So I ran short choppy strides on my forefoot : and midfoot. But then even that hurt real bad, on hard surface at least. So : I tried to run on grass
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