b***i
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A****t
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A****t
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 4 ok, man, now you are ready to go sub 3.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: rt
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g********s
发帖数: 1969 | 5 Zan! Go for sub 3!
baji, what's your runningahead ID? Want to see how hard your training is.
By the way, is there a mapping of mitbbs ID and runningahead ID? Thanks. |
w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 6 What I don't understand is what is the MP you are training for?
A prior speed target? It seems not in your record
A prior HR target? looks like closer, but still not reflected fully
Just feel like it? I myself cannot train by feeling or I will run very fast
at first then totally crash down later
Maybe a prior determined HR curve?
Please share your thought |
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 7 How about this: run at a pace that you FEEL you can go for 20 miles, on a
good day. How fast would you be
running without looking at your GPS? I don't believe that you will be
crashing knowing that you've still got
many miles to go.
fast
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: What I don't understand is what is the MP you are training for?
: A prior speed target? It seems not in your record
: A prior HR target? looks like closer, but still not reflected fully
: Just feel like it? I myself cannot train by feeling or I will run very fast
: at first then totally crash down later
: Maybe a prior determined HR curve?
: Please share your thought
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 8 I think it is progression MP run, started out at 9:00 pace for warm up,
gradually progress to around 6:50 pace and 170 heart rate. I am guessing
around 170 is baiji's marathon target heart rate.
fast
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: What I don't understand is what is the MP you are training for?
: A prior speed target? It seems not in your record
: A prior HR target? looks like closer, but still not reflected fully
: Just feel like it? I myself cannot train by feeling or I will run very fast
: at first then totally crash down later
: Maybe a prior determined HR curve?
: Please share your thought
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 9 I haven't put MP in a run that is longer than 17 miles.
But if I tried to run a MP (7:30min pace in my case) for 12 mile in my 18
mile long run, without knowing my pace, I will very likely too fast, say
7:15 min in my first two miles, then just slow down to 7:40 for a few
mile, then down to 7:50 or slower.
I still have to grasp the feeling for exact speed without GPS
a
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: How about this: run at a pace that you FEEL you can go for 20 miles, on a
: good day. How fast would you be
: running without looking at your GPS? I don't believe that you will be
: crashing knowing that you've still got
: many miles to go.
:
: fast
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 10 170 is too high even for Baiji. I believe Baiji will run first 13 mile @
160 BPM, then goes up to 170 BPM @ mile 22, then gradually go to as high
as possible.
guessing
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: I think it is progression MP run, started out at 9:00 pace for warm up,
: gradually progress to around 6:50 pace and 170 heart rate. I am guessing
: around 170 is baiji's marathon target heart rate.
:
: fast
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 11 BTW, in training for LAM, I run exactly the same training with Baiji, though
that is not in my schedule that day.
I started a pace that is what I felt like, and Baiji follow, then Baiji
continued and finished with that pace, but I was dropped and run a terrible
long run |
y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 12 what does it mean, zkss?
【在 A****t 的大作中提到】
: zkss
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d****i
发帖数: 4354 | 13 zkss=展开说说
【在 y******n 的大作中提到】
: what does it mean, zkss?
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y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 14 oh, thank you.
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: zkss=展开说说
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | |
A****t
发帖数: 759 | 16 In my impression, to run a MP run, you need to have your target marathon
time, say 3:10, then try to run with a pace 10-20% slower than this. |
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 17 都是baiji :)
好像以前有个对照贴...请考古。
【在 g********s 的大作中提到】
: Zan! Go for sub 3!
: baji, what's your runningahead ID? Want to see how hard your training is.
: By the way, is there a mapping of mitbbs ID and runningahead ID? Thanks.
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 18 牛啊，看来我也要进行AM训练了，虽然我不跑race |
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 19 ok, will give it a try in CIM if i don't injure myself by then.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: ok, man, now you are ready to go sub 3.
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 20 置顶那个link有解释，跟AM里一样:
Marathon-Pace Runs
Marathon-pace runs are medium-long or long runs during which you run most of
the miles at your goal marathon pace. These runs provide the precise
physiological benefit of allowing you to practice the pace and form of race
day. They’re also a great confidence booster. Start these runs comfortably,
and then run the last portion at marathon race pace. For example, if the
schedule calls for 16 miles with 12 miles at marathon race pace, gradually
pick up the pac
【在 A****t 的大作中提到】
: In my impression, to run a MP run, you need to have your target marathon
: time, say 3:10, then try to run with a pace 10-20% slower than this.
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 21
i don't know either, let's find out as the training goes on.
according to my HM PR this Feb, the M pace i should train at is 6:58/mi
155-165 feels plausible.
fast
it sure takes some time to get the feeling right, i tend to be conservative
now
it really depends on many things... now i trust my feelings more than my HRM.
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: What I don't understand is what is the MP you are training for?
: A prior speed target? It seems not in your record
: A prior HR target? looks like closer, but still not reflected fully
: Just feel like it? I myself cannot train by feeling or I will run very fast
: at first then totally crash down later
: Maybe a prior determined HR curve?
: Please share your thought
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 22 太牛差了， 俺一直觉得你可以直接冲3了。。。
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
:
: i don't know either, let's find out as the training goes on.
: according to my HM PR this Feb, the M pace i should train at is 6:58/mi
: 155-165 feels plausible.
: fast
: it sure takes some time to get the feeling right, i tend to be conservative
: now
: it really depends on many things... now i trust my feelings more than my HRM.
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 23 aglee..
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: ok, man, now you are ready to go sub 3.
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 24 170 is my HM race HR.
for marathon, i am shooting for 155 to 165 now.
only when i am absolutely sure i won't crash, i will go beyond 165.
【在 d****i 的大作中提到】
: I think it is progression MP run, started out at 9:00 pace for warm up,
: gradually progress to around 6:50 pace and 170 heart rate. I am guessing
: around 170 is baiji's marathon target heart rate.
:
: fast
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 25 别这样，Baiji第一目标是BQ，万一冲三，最后几个迈萎靡了，抽筋了，就因小失大
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 太牛差了， 俺一直觉得你可以直接冲3了。。。
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A****t
发帖数: 759 | 26 aglee. set one goal at a time
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 别这样，Baiji第一目标是BQ，万一冲三，最后几个迈萎靡了，抽筋了，就因小失大
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 27 i still remember it. you taught me how to do marathon pace run.
though
terrible
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: BTW, in training for LAM, I run exactly the same training with Baiji, though
: that is not in my schedule that day.
: I started a pace that is what I felt like, and Baiji follow, then Baiji
: continued and finished with that pace, but I was dropped and run a terrible
: long run
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 28 long beach BQ, CIM冲3嘛。。
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 别这样，Baiji第一目标是BQ，万一冲三，最后几个迈萎靡了，抽筋了，就因小失大
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d*********6
发帖数: 6115 | 29 haha,一骑绝尘runner去，无人知是baiji来。
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: i still remember it. you taught me how to do marathon pace run.
:
: though
: terrible
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f*******n
发帖数: 5241 | 30 Nice. Lightening fast.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: i still remember it. you taught me how to do marathon pace run.
:
: though
: terrible
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r*****p
发帖数: 531 | 31 问一下，我跑target mpace的时候心跳基本是165左右，这样pace如果跑全马会不会
burn out？
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: 170 is my HM race HR.
: for marathon, i am shooting for 155 to 165 now.
: only when i am absolutely sure i won't crash, i will go beyond 165.
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r*****p
发帖数: 531 | |
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 33 不知道啊，你最大心跳是多少？你怎么准备全马？你以前的FM/HM race心跳大概是多少？
【在 r*****p 的大作中提到】
: 问一下，我跑target mpace的时候心跳基本是165左右，这样pace如果跑全马会不会
: burn out？
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r*****p
发帖数: 531 | 34 脸红一个，hrm只hm的时候用过前几个mile，松了以后就当呼啦圈带了，所以没有数据。
我的意思是假设一个人mpace的心跳区间是155-165，那如果按区间上限165跑全马会不
会有问题？FM还没跑过所以心里没底。以前对心率不是很在意，就是看自己感觉，看来
我也要找个比赛测一下了。 |
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 35 我也不知道答案。我觉得比较危险，除非竞技状态非常好，不然还是保守一点吧。
据。
【在 r*****p 的大作中提到】
: 脸红一个，hrm只hm的时候用过前几个mile，松了以后就当呼啦圈带了，所以没有数据。
: 我的意思是假设一个人mpace的心跳区间是155-165，那如果按区间上限165跑全马会不
: 会有问题？FM还没跑过所以心里没底。以前对心率不是很在意，就是看自己感觉，看来
: 我也要找个比赛测一下了。
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r*****p
发帖数: 531 | 36 en 找天自己测一下
ps 头像是Senna？ |
b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 37 yes
【在 r*****p 的大作中提到】
: en 找天自己测一下
: ps 头像是Senna？
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r*****p
发帖数: 531 | 38 哈哈 头像均是各个领域的战神啊 :)
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: yes
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 39 just did a recovery run in aqua socks, feels pretty good. |
y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 40 wah, how can you run this pace under such a low HR? That is absolutely
amazing.
6:50 is my tempo pace and my avg HR goes to 165. but it was on a treadmill
without any influence of heat and uphill. Otherwise I think it will easily
go to 175 or higher.
a long way to go.
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: just did a recovery run in aqua socks, feels pretty good.
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 41 your HRmax is 200, so you can run 6:50 at 165 HR (82.5%), that's very
impressive
for me 165HR is 87.5%.
btw, i ran in the morning with temperature in the mid 50s, so i was not
affected by the heat except for the last 3 miles in direct sunlight.
【在 y******n 的大作中提到】
: wah, how can you run this pace under such a low HR? That is absolutely
: amazing.
: 6:50 is my tempo pace and my avg HR goes to 165. but it was on a treadmill
: without any influence of heat and uphill. Otherwise I think it will easily
: go to 175 or higher.
: a long way to go.
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 42 what a tough mind to have to get up probably at 4:40am to run a 18 mile
with 12 mile with MP, I have to harden the fuck up to learn from you
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: your HRmax is 200, so you can run 6:50 at 165 HR (82.5%), that's very
: impressive
: for me 165HR is 87.5%.
: btw, i ran in the morning with temperature in the mid 50s, so i was not
: affected by the heat except for the last 3 miles in direct sunlight.
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y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 43 me too. I never wake up that early to take a long run. It is probably the
reason that my long run quality is not good.
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: what a tough mind to have to get up probably at 4:40am to run a 18 mile
: with 12 mile with MP, I have to harden the fuck up to learn from you
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