m**********w
发帖数: 4161 | | l**********r
发帖数: 4612 | | s**x
发帖数: 7506 | 3 we need simply the tax code. so congressmen do not spend too much time on
扯淡ing.
choice 1: consumption tax + personal rebate.
choice 2: flat income tax
choice 3: flax income tax + personal rebate.
【在 l**********r 的大作中提到】
: 说白了是税高
| z******a
发帖数: 5381 | 4 personal rebate is not really simple.
最简单最公平的做法是，flat rate on all income from work, from social re-
distributions and from investments. No tax return required if all your
income combined is less than X.
you report fair market value for all your assets at year end. If you
reported value is too low, government can buy your asset at the price listed
on your tax return. If you have paid transaction costs and interests on
that asset, it is not your gain. No "I have some stock worth 13.5w per share
with a cost basis of $3 so I have no capital gain" joke.
No non-profit org can grow their assets without tax beyond their annual
spending. + inflation. You cannot grow a 10B endowment to a 20B without
paying tax. If you spend $2B from that endowment during that time, sure that
2B is not taxed, but the other 8B is tax at the same rate everyone pays. If
you contribute to a non profit, this money is not your income anymore, but
it is the non-profit's income.
With that, everyone's tax rate could be as low as 15%.
The biggest loophole in US tax code is 1:non profit org, which don't pay tax
, (and a lot of 大家族 hide their assets in those non profits， but hey,
they own the country and everything)
and ２：effectively 0 tax on BRKA's share if you just hold it and let it
appreciate.
【在 s**x 的大作中提到】
: we need simply the tax code. so congressmen do not spend too much time on
: 扯淡ing.
: choice 1: consumption tax + personal rebate.
: choice 2: flat income tax
: choice 3: flax income tax + personal rebate.
| d**n
发帖数: 3172 | 5 硅谷软件商FLG很多给民主党，硬件商比如intel, hp给共和党。INTEL的主席和CEO都是
铁杆共和党。不奇怪。不过当然他说的很多也是实话。传统工业在加州没有竞争力。
http://www.businessinsider.com/donations-obama-romney-tech-yaho | s**x
发帖数: 7506 | 6 "you report fair market value for all your assets at year end."
this looks worse than filing tax returns.
personal rebate is really cool, it automatically solves the illegal
immigration issue. and it also help force the illegals come forward if you
want to legalize them.
pure flat tax will not work at all here since it hit lower income more even
though many would prefer it.
listed
share
【在 z******a 的大作中提到】
: personal rebate is not really simple.
: 最简单最公平的做法是，flat rate on all income from work, from social re-
: distributions and from investments. No tax return required if all your
: income combined is less than X.
: you report fair market value for all your assets at year end. If you
: reported value is too low, government can buy your asset at the price listed
: on your tax return. If you have paid transaction costs and interests on
: that asset, it is not your gain. No "I have some stock worth 13.5w per share
: with a cost basis of $3 so I have no capital gain" joke.
: No non-profit org can grow their assets without tax beyond their annual
| z******a
发帖数: 5381 | 7 "this looks worse than filing tax returns."
what is wrong with that?
what is wrong with people who owns more assets need to hire an CPA to do it
while most of middle class american can file tax return in 10 minutes? You
want to force rich people to file complicated returns, or you want to force
poor people (who are more likely to claim "rebates") to hire CPAs and file
returns?
Under my system most Americans has less than 5 line items. For marketable
securities, numbers are most likely from bank/broker statements. Factual,
Accurate, no rooms for BS. you just report your statement balance. that is
all. For land, houses, real assets etc, most of people don't own a lot of
them. Even
if you do own some, just give whatever number you want to, with only one
condition:
if you list it too low, the government always has legal right to exchange
your asset with cash before a certain date.
for your small business shares/ownerships, report whatever you want, until
one day you are successful and you worry about government buying your
business at your listed price.
This is the only simple and fair way.
even
【在 s**x 的大作中提到】
: "you report fair market value for all your assets at year end."
: this looks worse than filing tax returns.
: personal rebate is really cool, it automatically solves the illegal
: immigration issue. and it also help force the illegals come forward if you
: want to legalize them.
: pure flat tax will not work at all here since it hit lower income more even
: though many would prefer it.
:
: listed
: share
| l*********m
发帖数: 16971 | 8 硬件都该搬出弯曲，穷人凑在夫人眼前讨嫌
【在 d**n 的大作中提到】
: 硅谷软件商FLG很多给民主党，硬件商比如intel, hp给共和党。INTEL的主席和CEO都是
: 铁杆共和党。不奇怪。不过当然他说的很多也是实话。传统工业在加州没有竞争力。
: http://www.businessinsider.com/donations-obama-romney-tech-yaho
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