B*********e 发帖数: 363 | 1 Got a speeding ticket and need to go to the court tomorrow. What should I
say to the judge so that my ticket can be dismissed? Thanks for the
suggestions. |
L*****e 发帖数: 8347 | 2 如果你没有自己没有speed的有力证据的话,主要强调自己表现如何一贯地好(最好以
前没有speed的记录),以及保证今后肯定不再犯,基本上起码可以拿到一年的deferal
(就是说一年内不吃罚单,这次的可以免掉)。
不要强调speed的原因,什么有急事啦,跟着别人的车啦,没看见限速牌啦,那些都会
被judge无情地驳回。。。
【在 B*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Got a speeding ticket and need to go to the court tomorrow. What should I : say to the judge so that my ticket can be dismissed? Thanks for the : suggestions.
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B*********e 发帖数: 363 | 3 Thanks a lot!
deferal
【在 L*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果你没有自己没有speed的有力证据的话,主要强调自己表现如何一贯地好(最好以 : 前没有speed的记录),以及保证今后肯定不再犯,基本上起码可以拿到一年的deferal : (就是说一年内不吃罚单,这次的可以免掉)。 : 不要强调speed的原因,什么有急事啦,跟着别人的车啦,没看见限速牌啦,那些都会 : 被judge无情地驳回。。。
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q***2 发帖数: 1861 | 4 还有啊,就是出庭前要及早做准备,书面要求给你罚单的警察当天到庭对证。 其他州
一般都会自动要求警嚓到庭,但华州不同,你不要求的话锦察可以只是书面指控就行。
这个不知道你以前要求没。 祝你好运!
deferal
【在 L*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果你没有自己没有speed的有力证据的话,主要强调自己表现如何一贯地好(最好以 : 前没有speed的记录),以及保证今后肯定不再犯,基本上起码可以拿到一年的deferal : (就是说一年内不吃罚单,这次的可以免掉)。 : 不要强调speed的原因,什么有急事啦,跟着别人的车啦,没看见限速牌啦,那些都会 : 被judge无情地驳回。。。
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y*****7 发帖数: 1555 | 5 如果最近要上庭而没有要求警察要出庭的,估计要悲剧了,应该为华州是default认为
你是guilty的,警察没有义务一定要证明清楚。所以,如果警察没来,但是给了书面的
statement,基本上法官会驳回你所有的question(你能要求一张纸作答吗?) |
B*********e 发帖数: 363 | 6 Thanks. I did request the cop to show up.
However, tomorrow is the first time to see the judge. I was told that if I
didn't admit guilty tomorrow, then I will be given another court date - the
cop will have to show up then, or my ticket will be dismissed. Is this
correct? Any other information? your help is greatly appreciated.
【在 y*****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果最近要上庭而没有要求警察要出庭的,估计要悲剧了,应该为华州是default认为 : 你是guilty的,警察没有义务一定要证明清楚。所以,如果警察没来,但是给了书面的 : statement,基本上法官会驳回你所有的question(你能要求一张纸作答吗?)
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q***2 发帖数: 1861 | 7 yes, man. you did the right thing! Good luck. hopefully the cop won't show
up.
I
the
【在 B*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Thanks. I did request the cop to show up. : However, tomorrow is the first time to see the judge. I was told that if I : didn't admit guilty tomorrow, then I will be given another court date - the : cop will have to show up then, or my ticket will be dismissed. Is this : correct? Any other information? your help is greatly appreciated.
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c****x 发帖数: 127 | 8 Please do not subpoena officer until you have reviewed discover material. I
have never seen anyone dismissed IF the cop shows up, I repeat, not a
single case. You have much better odds arguing against the written
statement on basis of lack of foundation, etc etc.
【在 y*****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 如果最近要上庭而没有要求警察要出庭的,估计要悲剧了,应该为华州是default认为 : 你是guilty的,警察没有义务一定要证明清楚。所以,如果警察没来,但是给了书面的 : statement,基本上法官会驳回你所有的question(你能要求一张纸作答吗?)
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h*********y 发帖数: 338 | 9 get a lawyer definitely help |
y*****7 发帖数: 1555 | 10 我不知道你是怎么得出这么一个结论的。根据我得到的信息,华州是偏向于相信警察的
。举个例子,如
果警察没来,你如果question 说警察的测速枪当天没有log,法官会驳回你的
question, 因为警
察不在场,他不用回答prove这个。
Anyway,可能是我记错了,不过,我个人觉得,让警察来,你不会有什么损失。他说话
了,你就有了机
会去question 他,才可能dismiss ticket。在华州,除非是很明显的警察错误,如果
警察给了法
官statement,他即使不来,你也肯定输,因为法官是站在他一边的。
material. I
【在 c****x 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Please do not subpoena officer until you have reviewed discover material. I : have never seen anyone dismissed IF the cop shows up, I repeat, not a : single case. You have much better odds arguing against the written : statement on basis of lack of foundation, etc etc.
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m********a 发帖数: 1601 | 11 好多有经验的人回答这个问题啊!
借宝地问一个:校区早上11点闪黄灯,跟在一堆车后面,没反应来得及立刻刹车,已经
被拍照了--- 我记忆中等我反应过来是刹了车的,但是录像里就那么一秒多钟的时
间。
罚单上说,是 non moving 的罚单,交罚款就行,不进入纪录。
这个罚单是不是就不用指望上庭能拿到什么减免了,只有直接交钱? |
c****x 发帖数: 127 | 12 Have you been to a traffic court here in WA yourself? You are giving bad
advice to OP.
For example, in WA the laws says the NOI must be filed with 5 business days.
Now, if you didn't subpoena the officer and you go to the court all you
need to say if according to IRLJ, the NOI was not filed within 5 days and
you get a dismissal automatically. Now if the cop is there, he can tell the
judge he was busy in the past 5 days, and the judge will allow the
proceedings to continue.
The only upside of
【在 y*****7 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我不知道你是怎么得出这么一个结论的。根据我得到的信息,华州是偏向于相信警察的 : 。举个例子,如 : 果警察没来,你如果question 说警察的测速枪当天没有log,法官会驳回你的 : question, 因为警 : 察不在场,他不用回答prove这个。 : Anyway,可能是我记错了,不过,我个人觉得,让警察来,你不会有什么损失。他说话 : 了,你就有了机 : 会去question 他,才可能dismiss ticket。在华州,除非是很明显的警察错误,如果 : 警察给了法 : 官statement,他即使不来,你也肯定输,因为法官是站在他一边的。
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W***u 发帖数: 789 | 13 你说我工作过多瞎了眼没钱换眼镜没保险看不见米表看不见换灯看不见脸。。。。。。
呵呵。。。。。。。 |
B*********e 发帖数: 363 | 14 Went to the court today for "pre-hearing". I waited for two hours and was
the last one to talk to the prosecutor/judge. They offered the option to
reduce my fine from $156 to $124 (adiminstrative cost, as they call it) and
changed my violation to city code, which means that it will not show up on
my drive record and will not affect my insurance. That's the best option,
so I took it and paid the $124.
The other option is to request for another court date and request the cop to
show up. If th
【在 W***u 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 你说我工作过多瞎了眼没钱换眼镜没保险看不见米表看不见换灯看不见脸。。。。。。 : 呵呵。。。。。。。
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X*******n 发帖数: 126 | 15 谢谢! 写得好详细。
and
to
【在 B*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Went to the court today for "pre-hearing". I waited for two hours and was : the last one to talk to the prosecutor/judge. They offered the option to : reduce my fine from $156 to $124 (adiminstrative cost, as they call it) and : changed my violation to city code, which means that it will not show up on : my drive record and will not affect my insurance. That's the best option, : so I took it and paid the $124. : The other option is to request for another court date and request the cop to : show up. If th
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z********o 发帖数: 4284 | 16 超速了就是超速了,老老实实认错把,每个人都超速了上庭都dismiss岂不我国乱套了 |
L*****e 发帖数: 8347 | 17 基本和我预料的一样,不过我会选deferral,如果一年内不吃ticket,罚款可以全免,
即使又吃了ticket,不过是比现在多付26刀。等于你省了26刀却丢了全免的机会。。。
and
to
【在 B*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Went to the court today for "pre-hearing". I waited for two hours and was : the last one to talk to the prosecutor/judge. They offered the option to : reduce my fine from $156 to $124 (adiminstrative cost, as they call it) and : changed my violation to city code, which means that it will not show up on : my drive record and will not affect my insurance. That's the best option, : so I took it and paid the $124. : The other option is to request for another court date and request the cop to : show up. If th
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a*********g 发帖数: 2853 | 18 那$150不退的吧,所以就算全免还是得多交这$26。而且两个都不上记录的,我看不出d
eferral有什么优点
我只是根据看到的信息做判断啊,没吃过moving ticket,所以不知道是不是有哪作了错
误的假定
【在 L*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 基本和我预料的一样,不过我会选deferral,如果一年内不吃ticket,罚款可以全免, : 即使又吃了ticket,不过是比现在多付26刀。等于你省了26刀却丢了全免的机会。。。 : : and : to
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L*****e 发帖数: 8347 | 19 deferral的意思是如果你一年内不吃ticket,你的这张罚单就全免。但是如果你又犯了
,就补交这次的$150以及第二次犯的罚款。
LZ选择的是现在就交$124。
出d
了错
【在 a*********g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 那$150不退的吧,所以就算全免还是得多交这$26。而且两个都不上记录的,我看不出d : eferral有什么优点 : 我只是根据看到的信息做判断啊,没吃过moving ticket,所以不知道是不是有哪作了错 : 误的假定
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B*********e 发帖数: 363 | 20 For deferral, you have to pay $150 no matter what.
If no violation within a year, then the ticket is dismissed and I don't have
to pay the fine, which is $156.
Clear?
【在 L*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : deferral的意思是如果你一年内不吃ticket,你的这张罚单就全免。但是如果你又犯了 : ,就补交这次的$150以及第二次犯的罚款。 : LZ选择的是现在就交$124。 : : 出d : 了错
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