v****e
发帖数: 19471 | |
v*****k
发帖数: 7798 | |
Y**U
发帖数: 911 | |
v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 4 对于判断momentum是有意义的。
【在 Y**U 的大作中提到】
: 今天收多少很重要吗？
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | |
P*B
发帖数: 2876 | 6 if 100.10, good enough?
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 太高深了，俺不懂
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 7 en, 可以
【在 P*B 的大作中提到】
: if 100.10, good enough?
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v*****k
发帖数: 7798 | |
P*B
发帖数: 2876 | |
i**r
发帖数: 2112 | |
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H********7
发帖数: 2369 | 11 看着困难了
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: close 100.5以上都是positive
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Y**U
发帖数: 911 | 12 蒙的不错啊
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: close 100.5以上都是positive
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I***C
发帖数: 765 | 13 肯定是村长最后出手了
收100.56
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: close 100.5以上都是positive
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l*****f
发帖数: 156 | |
c******g
发帖数: 1611 | 15 服了，真正的大牛！
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: close 100.5以上都是positive
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v*****k
发帖数: 7798 | |
c******g
发帖数: 1611 | 17 再次赞叹一下，预测100.5，实际收100.45，点背到这种境界，堪称神牛。。。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: close 100.5以上都是positive
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 18 a single price point doesn't mean anything
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: close 100.5以上都是positive
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 19 never said it meant anything. I'm just getting a refill of the soy sauce...
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: a single price point doesn't mean anything
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 20 盘后到了,哇哈哈哈气死你!
【在 c******g 的大作中提到】
: 再次赞叹一下，预测100.5，实际收100.45，点背到这种境界，堪称神牛。。。
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 21 anyhow , i am generally pessimistic about social networking
be it fb, twitter, sina, renn ...
sell ads when people are busy with other stuff ... not such a great idea ...
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: never said it meant anything. I'm just getting a refill of the soy sauce...
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 22 just ride the bubble. why bother killing ourselves trying to figure out the
profitability stuff... way too early for that.
..
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: anyhow , i am generally pessimistic about social networking
: be it fb, twitter, sina, renn ...
: sell ads when people are busy with other stuff ... not such a great idea ...
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 23 it is a dangerous thought trying to get a non-avail trade and hoping to flip
to even dumber people ...
the probability is going against you . the market is inefficient at times ,
but it is certainly not dumb .
the
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: just ride the bubble. why bother killing ourselves trying to figure out the
: profitability stuff... way too early for that.
:
: ..
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 24 here is a lesson on the history of the stock market: money is made out of da
ngerous thoughts. ask yourself, if Facebook's 2011 revenue is going to be $4
B, and current valuation on private market is $70B, is it a good idea to buy
? my answer is yes. why? because historically the market has given the poste
r child of each big bubble a P/S ratio of at least 30 times. and who am I to
build a DCF model and figure out what Facebook is really worth? no one can
do that. and that is the beauty of "room for imagination".
flip
,
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: it is a dangerous thought trying to get a non-avail trade and hoping to flip
: to even dumber people ...
: the probability is going against you . the market is inefficient at times ,
: but it is certainly not dumb .
:
: the
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 25 of course , there would be people who made big bucks chasing bubbles . but
as i said , the probability is going against you .
maybe it is just my style , but i don't like the idea that "this time it
would be as crazy as last time " - certainly not enough that I would bet
on it .
so citing historical 30 times P/S is piling your money on 20 miles of thin
air. all it takes is somehow the market decides on a different P/S then
it would go real ugly .
da
$4
buy
poste
to
can
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: here is a lesson on the history of the stock market: money is made out of da
: ngerous thoughts. ask yourself, if Facebook's 2011 revenue is going to be $4
: B, and current valuation on private market is $70B, is it a good idea to buy
: ? my answer is yes. why? because historically the market has given the poste
: r child of each big bubble a P/S ratio of at least 30 times. and who am I to
: build a DCF model and figure out what Facebook is really worth? no one can
: do that. and that is the beauty of "room for imagination".
:
: flip
: ,
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v*****k
发帖数: 7798 | 26 青蛙里面经济学家特别多lol
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: here is a lesson on the history of the stock market: money is made out of da
: ngerous thoughts. ask yourself, if Facebook's 2011 revenue is going to be $4
: B, and current valuation on private market is $70B, is it a good idea to buy
: ? my answer is yes. why? because historically the market has given the poste
: r child of each big bubble a P/S ratio of at least 30 times. and who am I to
: build a DCF model and figure out what Facebook is really worth? no one can
: do that. and that is the beauty of "room for imagination".
:
: flip
: ,
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 27 随便聊聊仅供娱乐。
呵呵。自由市场，你牛你只管买，没人拦着。
【在 v*****k 的大作中提到】
: 青蛙里面经济学家特别多lol
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 28 另一个原因就是GS已经拉着他的top clients大举介入了。这帮孙子没有个3--4倍的收成
是不会罢休的。咱就是跟着喝口汤而已，也不会太贪。
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: 随便聊聊仅供娱乐。
: 呵呵。自由市场，你牛你只管买，没人拦着。
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 29 GS的client就一定赚钱了？GS自己的股价现在也不怎么样。
90年代中期的时候GS差点关门，部分原因是因为帮别人IPO，市场turn around，
GS讲信用，就自己死抗了。呵呵。
收成
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 另一个原因就是GS已经拉着他的top clients大举介入了。这帮孙子没有个3--4倍的收成
: 是不会罢休的。咱就是跟着喝口汤而已，也不会太贪。
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 30 没说一定，只是一种倾向。你要是什么事儿都要确凿，而且量化的话，那作为散户你肯
定赚不到大钱的。炒股是炒expectation，而不是炒facts。你搞清这一点，很多东西就
可以放下了。
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: GS的client就一定赚钱了？GS自己的股价现在也不怎么样。
: 90年代中期的时候GS差点关门，部分原因是因为帮别人IPO，市场turn around，
: GS讲信用，就自己死抗了。呵呵。
:
: 收成
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 31 赚不到大钱也不会亏大钱，呵呵
expectation on how crazy the other people's expectation can get ...
这个游戏还是留给别人去玩吧。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 没说一定，只是一种倾向。你要是什么事儿都要确凿，而且量化的话，那作为散户你肯
: 定赚不到大钱的。炒股是炒expectation，而不是炒facts。你搞清这一点，很多东西就
: 可以放下了。
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 32 赚不到大钱的事儿有啥意思呢？大钱就是大风险换来的，各行各业都如此，炒股也不例
外的。风险是逃不掉的，能优化的只有风险/收益比。
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: 赚不到大钱也不会亏大钱，呵呵
: expectation on how crazy the other people's expectation can get ...
: 这个游戏还是留给别人去玩吧。
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 33 " i don't gamble , i only bet on sure things "
-- Wall Street ( the movie )
当然数学上说，这种高风险投资，风险/收益比一般偏高，也就是说
统计上说处于不利。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 赚不到大钱的事儿有啥意思呢？大钱就是大风险换来的，各行各业都如此，炒股也不例
: 外的。风险是逃不掉的，能优化的只有风险/收益比。
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f**********8
发帖数: 326 | 34 LOL. Investment Banks like GS would like to seduce you first with a little
profit. When you jump in the trap, they could collect your money very easy
by pumping bad news. While at the same period, they are selling short of
such stocks/commodities.
Get to be realistic(follow the trend) and self-control(not being greedy or
fear) if you want a consistent return.
If you are not Warren Buffet or having a father who is/was a congressmen,
please don't quote the movie of being sure on a bet. |
v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 35 that is "the movie"... in reality, what wall street really does is marketing
-- creating expectations that can push up or push down asset prices. in oth
er words, they run a propaganda machine to magnify people's greed and fear a
nd make money out of it.
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: " i don't gamble , i only bet on sure things "
: -- Wall Street ( the movie )
: 当然数学上说，这种高风险投资，风险/收益比一般偏高，也就是说
: 统计上说处于不利。
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 36 geez ...
【在 f**********8 的大作中提到】
: LOL. Investment Banks like GS would like to seduce you first with a little
: profit. When you jump in the trap, they could collect your money very easy
: by pumping bad news. While at the same period, they are selling short of
: such stocks/commodities.
: Get to be realistic(follow the trend) and self-control(not being greedy or
: fear) if you want a consistent return.
: If you are not Warren Buffet or having a father who is/was a congressmen,
: please don't quote the movie of being sure on a bet.
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f**********8
发帖数: 326 | 37 Plus, it might be better for you to watch the movie carefully to understand
what it really means....
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: geez ...
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 38 okay ... so you know it is propaganda ...
算啦，每个人的性格不同，所以有些人就是喜欢buy into propaganda。
hype也许有高了然后更高的，也有busted的。当然，每个buy into hype
的人都觉得自己是对的。都不会觉得自己的pick会bust。
反正最后是自己的钱，wall street以及pump & dump的人终究有钱赚就对
了。
一切都是命撒……呵呵
marketing
oth
a
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: that is "the movie"... in reality, what wall street really does is marketing
: -- creating expectations that can push up or push down asset prices. in oth
: er words, they run a propaganda machine to magnify people's greed and fear a
: nd make money out of it.
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 39 just relax , it is just a movie, no biggy ...
understand
【在 f**********8 的大作中提到】
: Plus, it might be better for you to watch the movie carefully to understand
: what it really means....
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f**********8
发帖数: 326 | 40 Relax, relax,as far as we could make money, who cares about a stupid movie..
As far as we are not insiders, who knows if the bet is certain or not..Happy
trading,dude!
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: just relax , it is just a movie, no biggy ...
:
: understand
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 41 anyway，新浪技术面上看也破相了已经。基本面我前面说了不太看好。
技术分析免费奉送了。（disclaimer: me 纯打酱油，no positions）
..
Happy
【在 f**********8 的大作中提到】
: Relax, relax,as far as we could make money, who cares about a stupid movie..
: As far as we are not insiders, who knows if the bet is certain or not..Happy
: trading,dude!
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 42 技术上确实需要修复，这一点我完全同意
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: anyway，新浪技术面上看也破相了已经。基本面我前面说了不太看好。
: 技术分析免费奉送了。（disclaimer: me 纯打酱油，no positions）
:
: ..
: Happy
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 43 哎，能不能修复存疑。貌似能量已经释放的差不多了。要靠散户
推高，只怕没那么容易。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 技术上确实需要修复，这一点我完全同意
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 44 主要还是机构间的事情。这次应该是彻底的换庄了，我估计是美国人跑了，中国人进去
了。其实技术上说，最大的阻力在100以下，94左右，目前已经过了。50日线下方一定要
做休整，否则技术上太不靠谱，所以我暂时计划在110附近出来看看。
【在 l**1 的大作中提到】
: 哎，能不能修复存疑。貌似能量已经释放的差不多了。要靠散户
: 推高，只怕没那么容易。
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l**1
发帖数: 219 | 45 呵呵。短线这么玩玩还行。就是累点。
定要
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 主要还是机构间的事情。这次应该是彻底的换庄了，我估计是美国人跑了，中国人进去
: 了。其实技术上说，最大的阻力在100以下，94左右，目前已经过了。50日线下方一定要
: 做休整，否则技术上太不靠谱，所以我暂时计划在110附近出来看看。
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 46 差不多了俺撤离了,你们继续站岗,如果合适以后再入
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: close 100.5以上都是positive
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