a*****n 发帖数: 142 | 1 a mechanic.
first time option buyer. please tell me how to move next few days. |
G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | |
a*****n 发帖数: 142 | 3 one friend helped me on phone. he won't be available next few days.
【在 G*******m 的大作中提到】 : 不是第一次了。
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G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 4 肯定是老手了。
需要level 4 交易权利。
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】 : one friend helped me on phone. he won't be available next few days.
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G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 5 而且非常make sense。
只是margin 要求很高,账户不小啊。 |
a*****n 发帖数: 142 | 6 I am really not.
this Friend helped me openned this account in TD ameritrade.
a lot of information is not real.
I deposited 30k. and the TDameritrade gave me a free $100.
I was really panic(Since I am new in option) when he was remote-controling
me via phone.I was afraid of clicking a wrong button.
I couldn't focus on my work whole day. even now I am still in panic and
couldn't fall into sleep. |
G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 7 900元的call,是为了margin,才买的吧? |
G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 8 900元的call,是为了margin,才买的吧? |
a*****n 发帖数: 142 | 9 He said I will make some money this week or next week. I am hoping too.
also He said he only play AAPL for a few years.
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】 : I am really not. : this Friend helped me openned this account in TD ameritrade. : a lot of information is not real. : I deposited 30k. and the TDameritrade gave me a free $100. : I was really panic(Since I am new in option) when he was remote-controling : me via phone.I was afraid of clicking a wrong button. : I couldn't focus on my work whole day. even now I am still in panic and : couldn't fall into sleep.
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G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 10 如果明天,AAPL,800元,你赚10元,就是1000元左右。 |
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G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 11 如果明天,AAPL,500元,你赚15元,就是1500元左右。 |
G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 12 整个舱位,8/24之前必须要清掉。
你的朋友会帮你清掉的。 |
G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 13 如果不清掉,就要新开8/31的来替换8/24的。
【在 G*******m 的大作中提到】 : 整个舱位,8/24之前必须要清掉。 : 你的朋友会帮你清掉的。
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a*****n 发帖数: 142 | 14 XieXie. I will manage to reach him Thursday.
By the way, I like your writing for a long time. too bad, I am not a good
writer.
【在 G*******m 的大作中提到】 : 整个舱位,8/24之前必须要清掉。 : 你的朋友会帮你清掉的。
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s******n 发帖数: 6806 | 15 挺不错的啊,panic啥
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】 : I am really not. : this Friend helped me openned this account in TD ameritrade. : a lot of information is not real. : I deposited 30k. and the TDameritrade gave me a free $100. : I was really panic(Since I am new in option) when he was remote-controling : me via phone.I was afraid of clicking a wrong button. : I couldn't focus on my work whole day. even now I am still in panic and : couldn't fall into sleep.
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G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 16 :)
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】 : XieXie. I will manage to reach him Thursday. : By the way, I like your writing for a long time. too bad, I am not a good : writer.
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a*****n 发帖数: 142 | 17 because I don't know much.
I am taking your good words, and going to sleep. have a good day.
【在 s******n 的大作中提到】 : 挺不错的啊,panic啥
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E******w 发帖数: 2616 | 18 能不能给青蛙解释一下,为什么买900的call能帮助margin呀。
【在 G*******m 的大作中提到】 : 900元的call,是为了margin,才买的吧?
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t****n 发帖数: 10724 | |
G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 20 上面买了一个8/24的long call,卖了一个9/22的(short)call。
这样看上去好像是一个call spread,但实际上从margin的角度来说不是一个call
spread。
从margin的角度来说,这是分开的二个交易:
1)8/24的long call (paid cash, no margin required)
2)9/22的short call (naked call)
所以9/22的short call是naked call,需要消耗很多margin buy power。
此时,一个9/22的900元的long call,就把上面的naked call,配对成真正的call
spread,可以使原来的margin requirement 减少3-4倍。
【在 E******w 的大作中提到】 : 能不能给青蛙解释一下,为什么买900的call能帮助margin呀。
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c********t 发帖数: 1649 | 21 同问? 我还以为是买错了,原本要sell to open 的。
另外忍不住说一句,这才几个钱呀,就能睡不着觉了, 让我这输了10k多都浑然不觉的
穷学生情何以堪。
【在 E******w 的大作中提到】 : 能不能给青蛙解释一下,为什么买900的call能帮助margin呀。
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c********t 发帖数: 1649 | 22 如果我是楼主的朋友,绝对不会帮楼主打理账户。 楼主对钱看得这么重,赚了还好说
,要赔了一点朋友也没得做了。 |
c********t 发帖数: 1649 | 23 赞! 学习了
【在 G*******m 的大作中提到】 : 上面买了一个8/24的long call,卖了一个9/22的(short)call。 : 这样看上去好像是一个call spread,但实际上从margin的角度来说不是一个call : spread。 : 从margin的角度来说,这是分开的二个交易: : 1)8/24的long call (paid cash, no margin required) : 2)9/22的short call (naked call) : 所以9/22的short call是naked call,需要消耗很多margin buy power。 : 此时,一个9/22的900元的long call,就把上面的naked call,配对成真正的call : spread,可以使原来的margin requirement 减少3-4倍。
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I*S 发帖数: 130 | 24 请问 GnGSystem 高手,
to buy a call spread,
should 分开的二个交易: buy one call and sell another call ?
Or there are a click to fill a call spread together (not two 分开的交易) ?
I try to avoid 分开的二个交易, if only sell call 交易 filled (while the buy
call 交易 not filled). the risk significantly increase.
How to buy a spread concurrently ?
【在 G*******m 的大作中提到】 : 上面买了一个8/24的long call,卖了一个9/22的(short)call。 : 这样看上去好像是一个call spread,但实际上从margin的角度来说不是一个call : spread。 : 从margin的角度来说,这是分开的二个交易: : 1)8/24的long call (paid cash, no margin required) : 2)9/22的short call (naked call) : 所以9/22的short call是naked call,需要消耗很多margin buy power。 : 此时,一个9/22的900元的long call,就把上面的naked call,配对成真正的call : spread,可以使原来的margin requirement 减少3-4倍。
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a*****n 发帖数: 142 | 25 I was just a first time option buyer. Actually the friend of mine knows I
don't care that much once I loose money.
xie xie Crazy Giant.
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】 : 如果我是楼主的朋友,绝对不会帮楼主打理账户。 楼主对钱看得这么重,赚了还好说 : ,要赔了一点朋友也没得做了。
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h*****8 发帖数: 4754 | 26 900 C 能减那么多MARGIN REQUIREMENT?
而且他是先买的900C。
要我看,整的太复杂了。
【在 G*******m 的大作中提到】 : 上面买了一个8/24的long call,卖了一个9/22的(short)call。 : 这样看上去好像是一个call spread,但实际上从margin的角度来说不是一个call : spread。 : 从margin的角度来说,这是分开的二个交易: : 1)8/24的long call (paid cash, no margin required) : 2)9/22的short call (naked call) : 所以9/22的short call是naked call,需要消耗很多margin buy power。 : 此时,一个9/22的900元的long call,就把上面的naked call,配对成真正的call : spread,可以使原来的margin requirement 减少3-4倍。
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s*f 发帖数: 22 | 27 If you are a new player of option trading, how come TD approved you to sell
naked call?
I am confused |
g***c 发帖数: 11523 | 28 你确定你朋友只让你买1手?
你这个玩法,是配合stock的玩法
如果想玩option,你选择的spread也太大了,option太少了
最可能的结局就是亏个手续费,一分钱赚不到
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】 : a mechanic. : first time option buyer. please tell me how to move next few days.
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a*****n 发帖数: 142 | 29 when I opened the account. he helped me with some false statement such as,
years of experience....
seriously I don't even know the naked call.
reading relevant book lately.
sell
【在 s*f 的大作中提到】 : If you are a new player of option trading, how come TD approved you to sell : naked call? : I am confused
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h*****8 发帖数: 4754 | 30 update一下账户情况吧?
让我们也看看PORTFOLIO的DELTA在这种天气里咋动的。
【在 a*****n 的大作中提到】 : when I opened the account. he helped me with some false statement such as, : years of experience.... : seriously I don't even know the naked call. : reading relevant book lately. : : sell
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G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 31 我看,如果不先买900C,margin buying power可能就不够。
【在 h*****8 的大作中提到】 : 900 C 能减那么多MARGIN REQUIREMENT? : 而且他是先买的900C。 : 要我看,整的太复杂了。
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h*****8 发帖数: 4754 | 32 为啥不弄个800C,收了1080的PREMIUM。
弄个800C会好很多吧?
【在 G*******m 的大作中提到】 : 我看,如果不先买900C,margin buying power可能就不够。
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G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 33 E*trade multiple legs options order,sometimes can also generate false
margin call, for example, naked leg is first executed by a detectable amount
of time。
buy
【在 I*S 的大作中提到】 : 请问 GnGSystem 高手, : to buy a call spread, : should 分开的二个交易: buy one call and sell another call ? : Or there are a click to fill a call spread together (not two 分开的交易) ? : I try to avoid 分开的二个交易, if only sell call 交易 filled (while the buy : call 交易 not filled). the risk significantly increase. : How to buy a spread concurrently ?
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j****9 发帖数: 2295 | 34 觉得这个很有钱啊。appl的option都是好贵好贵的。 |
I*S 发帖数: 130 | 35 谢谢.
Using scattrade, will find out "multiple legs options order".
amount
【在 G*******m 的大作中提到】 : E*trade multiple legs options order,sometimes can also generate false : margin call, for example, naked leg is first executed by a detectable amount : of time。 : : buy
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G*******m 发帖数: 16326 | 36 如果这个礼拜,volatility升高,而AAPL涨涨跌跌而原地踏步的话,这个组合要输一些
小钱。
volatility升高,9/22的put 价格上升,而AAPL原地踏步而使8/24的put/call很快作废
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S********e 发帖数: 1557 | 37 The momentum of Apple stock is very strong,,,
The protection from August 24 $690 call option is weak. Suppose apple stock
goes to $690 on August 24, your August 24 $690 call option will be end at 0,
but the September 22 $700 call option would be $18 at least. The Sep. 620
put would be $1. You would lose about $8*100 on the first week.
Now the dilemma, will you buy weekly option (Aug.27-31) $690 or $700 call to
cover the risk?
If yes, what if the stock settles at $690 or below on August 31, you will
lose your $690 or $700 call option, which would be about $7 or $10
If no, what if the stock keeps going up, you will be panic,,,
Overall, I don't think this is a good strategy. |
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