w*j
发帖数: 6104 | | U********f
发帖数: 2482 | 2 AAPL这么多的现金，不能空。一个回购就让你吃不消。
【在 w*j 的大作中提到】
: 毕竟都是老牌的。
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 3 Lots of cash is parked out side of U.S. AAPL won't be able to do much even
they buyback. Its market cap is too big for AAPL to take. Its buyback plan
will do nothing at its stock price. Buyback may work a bit while it crash to
$200.
【在 U********f 的大作中提到】
: AAPL这么多的现金，不能空。一个回购就让你吃不消。
| c***n
发帖数: 588 | 4 If so, tell us how many shares of AAPL you have short at which price. LOL...
Let's check within next 2 months, not far for you. | k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 5 I don't have any position on AAPL, altough I have been calling it a top
since $660, where I initiated NOK position.
In 2 year, you can mark this post and come back to see how AAPL is doing. My
bet is AAPL will shave at least 50% off, rather than ever seeing $1000 as
most aapl anal people is talking.
In 2 month, i think it is likely keep under 600 (given market could float it
up).
..
【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: If so, tell us how many shares of AAPL you have short at which price. LOL...
: Let's check within next 2 months, not far for you.
| w*j
发帖数: 6104 | 6 明明是长线基本面分析，你偏看要2个月。
NOK，RIMM是跟AAPLE正面竞争的，不是山寨。对AAPL肯定有影响的。
..
【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: If so, tell us how many shares of AAPL you have short at which price. LOL...
: Let's check within next 2 months, not far for you.
| c***n
发帖数: 588 | 7 OK, mark here, I also claim Nokia will bankrupt in 2 years, and this has
super infinite more chance than aapl going half price. let's see.
everybody can make a claim, LOL
My
it
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: I don't have any position on AAPL, altough I have been calling it a top
: since $660, where I initiated NOK position.
: In 2 year, you can mark this post and come back to see how AAPL is doing. My
: bet is AAPL will shave at least 50% off, rather than ever seeing $1000 as
: most aapl anal people is talking.
: In 2 month, i think it is likely keep under 600 (given market could float it
: up).
:
: ..
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 8 Mark your words here.
@Today, AAPL = 160 share of NOK,
In 2 years:
P(NOK=0. AAPL>=571) >> P(NOK3.56, AAPL=285)?
You loose the bet when AAPL/NOK<78 ?
【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: OK, mark here, I also claim Nokia will bankrupt in 2 years, and this has
: super infinite more chance than aapl going half price. let's see.
: everybody can make a claim, LOL
:
: My
: it
| c***n
发帖数: 588 | 9 please do mark. By the way, nok is 3.x$, aapl is 571$.
Let's do this bet, I bet nok has far more chance of reducing to 1/2 or even
1/3 in stock price than aapl in two years.
Want to bet which stock first touch half price from now? | p*****t
发帖数: 3824 | | | | S****s
发帖数: 11288 | 11 我觉得NOK不好说，但是RIMM真心死翘翘了，现在就是回光返照而已
人鸡鸭现在好歹还有手机在出，RIMM的bb10世界末日前都看不到影子呢。 | k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 12 Did you accept defeat already? U were referring NOK going to bankrupt.
With forgiving your irrationality of bankruptcy, I offer this for you to
continue:
Whenever AAPL/NOK>=320, you win. I win if AAPL/NOK<=80.
At 2 year end, the split is AAPL/NOK=160.
even
【在 c***n 的大作中提到】
: please do mark. By the way, nok is 3.x$, aapl is 571$.
: Let's do this bet, I bet nok has far more chance of reducing to 1/2 or even
: 1/3 in stock price than aapl in two years.
: Want to bet which stock first touch half price from now?
| s*****e
发帖数: 16824 | 13 虽然我在赌nok, 但是长期来看，nok恢复的机会不大。可能能混下去，但是再次成为霸
主是没戏了。rimm基本上肯定完了。不过不管这俩恢复不恢复，appl多半都要完，三星
一家就能搞死它了。
【在 S****s 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得NOK不好说，但是RIMM真心死翘翘了，现在就是回光返照而已
: 人鸡鸭现在好歹还有手机在出，RIMM的bb10世界末日前都看不到影子呢。
| C***n
发帖数: 452 | 14 Who care, I can claim whatever I want. Just like you don't play any money on
aapl while look down on it every day without taking any responsibility to
mislead people. At least I use real money to long aapl.
dare to bet which one first touch half? Since you have absolute confidence
in appl down and nok already down like shit to 3.x, i can still bet this
shit will down half again. if not dare, keep away!
Lol, who care whether nok will bankruptcy or not, I just see this shit will
down another half soon even to 0. I also claim this shit will lose big money
until bankruptcy., LOL
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Did you accept defeat already? U were referring NOK going to bankrupt.
: With forgiving your irrationality of bankruptcy, I offer this for you to
: continue:
: Whenever AAPL/NOK>=320, you win. I win if AAPL/NOK<=80.
: At 2 year end, the split is AAPL/NOK=160.
:
: even
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 15 Well, I made my choice of initiated my NOK longs at 2.60s, and then 2.50s
over buying AAPL shares, and called AAPL top around $660 with my previous
posts. I don't want to short any AAPL because there is other better place to
park money.
I don't see your logic of whining here. BTW, if "Who care(S)" then why do
you post here. Making a choice on NOK is exactly betting that NOK is taking
sales away from AAPL, and isn't it another way to play AAPL's demise?
on
will
money
【在 C***n 的大作中提到】
: Who care, I can claim whatever I want. Just like you don't play any money on
: aapl while look down on it every day without taking any responsibility to
: mislead people. At least I use real money to long aapl.
: dare to bet which one first touch half? Since you have absolute confidence
: in appl down and nok already down like shit to 3.x, i can still bet this
: shit will down half again. if not dare, keep away!
: Lol, who care whether nok will bankruptcy or not, I just see this shit will
: down another half soon even to 0. I also claim this shit will lose big money
: until bankruptcy., LOL
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 16 I think it is too early to predict NOK's future success level. However, the
dying AAPL will be good for a lot of competition to survive, and NOK is a
good enough player in the sector. NOK's post 2009 low is 9.+ where
everything is crashing. If NOK stabilize on its smartphone business, its
other business is able to justify at least 8-9 dollar valuation.
【在 S****s 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得NOK不好说，但是RIMM真心死翘翘了，现在就是回光返照而已
: 人鸡鸭现在好歹还有手机在出，RIMM的bb10世界末日前都看不到影子呢。
| k**o
发帖数: 15334 | 17 这个同意，NOK还有希望，RIMM已经是dead man walking了。
【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】
: 虽然我在赌nok, 但是长期来看，nok恢复的机会不大。可能能混下去，但是再次成为霸
: 主是没戏了。rimm基本上肯定完了。不过不管这俩恢复不恢复，appl多半都要完，三星
: 一家就能搞死它了。
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 18 Dig the article up and mark it again.
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Did you accept defeat already? U were referring NOK going to bankrupt.
: With forgiving your irrationality of bankruptcy, I offer this for you to
: continue:
: Whenever AAPL/NOK>=320, you win. I win if AAPL/NOK<=80.
: At 2 year end, the split is AAPL/NOK=160.
:
: even
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 19 Mark this again -- AAPL's demise is good for whole industry, especially for
IT non-min.
NOK, RIMM all up.
the
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: I think it is too early to predict NOK's future success level. However, the
: dying AAPL will be good for a lot of competition to survive, and NOK is a
: good enough player in the sector. NOK's post 2009 low is 9.+ where
: everything is crashing. If NOK stabilize on its smartphone business, its
: other business is able to justify at least 8-9 dollar valuation.
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 20 Mark again, AAPL may soon to issue profit warning, along with significant
margin short fall.
IPAD mini pricing point is reducing pad profit of AAPL. Andriod is winning
iOS, IP5 not selling well, neither will be IP6, trend is down.
All other stock will rise from the loss of AAPL.
for
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Mark this again -- AAPL's demise is good for whole industry, especially for
: IT non-min.
: NOK, RIMM all up.
:
: the
| | | m*****i
发帖数: 4342 | 21 I disagree. Apple still makes pretty good product. The only problem is their
product is relative expensive.
If they can not sell their product, they will scrafice their margin. In that
case, no one can escape. The profit margin for other players will be
crashed.
Apple still will make lots of money not as much as before.
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Mark again, AAPL may soon to issue profit warning, along with significant
: margin short fall.
: IPAD mini pricing point is reducing pad profit of AAPL. Andriod is winning
: iOS, IP5 not selling well, neither will be IP6, trend is down.
: All other stock will rise from the loss of AAPL.
:
: for
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 22 Sacrifice margin does not mean higher sales. I think Andriod's win against
iOS is done deal. Although the number yet to surface, the trend is set.
Apple is not really a tech savy company, the lag will be bigger and bigger.
Hardware profit will be killed (look at DELL/HP/IBM, they used to own
hardware, and selling at a high margin. 10 years ago, HP makes big bucks
from $4000 a premium notebook. Once notebook is a commodity, what is the
pricing point now?).
In next 2-3 years, there will be too many handset to choose from. Even older
ones are good enough, smartphone will be almost same commodity product.
GOOG made perfect move against AAPL. AAPL's demise will be just
as fast as its resurrection. BTW, is IP5 better than 4S, really? Some
people rather have 4S. Given IP4S/5/5S/6/6S/7/.... in 2 years, with not many
difference, would you
need to buy another from AAPL? I would take a dip on some android or WP then.
Apple does not have much power (other than some fashion patent?) to buckle
the trend against a vast pool of
android participants.
their
that
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: I disagree. Apple still makes pretty good product. The only problem is their
: product is relative expensive.
: If they can not sell their product, they will scrafice their margin. In that
: case, no one can escape. The profit margin for other players will be
: crashed.
: Apple still will make lots of money not as much as before.
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 23 DIG up and mark.
【在 p*****t 的大作中提到】
: 坐等RIMM和NOK被完爆
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 24 AAPL/NOK=122 down from 165.
-25%. Target: -50% | k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | | k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 26 Half Checkpoint of the AAPL/NOK claim.
赚废了。
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: AAPL/NOK=112
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 27 AAPL/NOK=100.
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Half Checkpoint of the AAPL/NOK claim.
: 赚废了。
| k*****a
发帖数: 1463 | 28 Mark@ 1/23 AAPL issued lower margin, warned lower next Q sales.
【在 k*****a 的大作中提到】
: Mark again, AAPL may soon to issue profit warning, along with significant
: margin short fall.
: IPAD mini pricing point is reducing pad profit of AAPL. Andriod is winning
: iOS, IP5 not selling well, neither will be IP6, trend is down.
: All other stock will rise from the loss of AAPL.
:
: for
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