r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 1 Finished the season and ranked 12 out of 90 in 4.0/4.5 local league this
year.
With 55% winning records on 20+ single matches. Not too bad to me.
Plan to play USTA 2.5 league next year. Need to find another 7 similar level
players to build a team. Hoping to get 2010 National Chamption. |
K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 2 Brutal!
level
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : Finished the season and ranked 12 out of 90 in 4.0/4.5 local league this : year. : With 55% winning records on 20+ single matches. Not too bad to me. : Plan to play USTA 2.5 league next year. Need to find another 7 similar level : players to build a team. Hoping to get 2010 National Chamption.
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R*****8 发帖数: 1557 | |
f***s 发帖数: 1582 | |
r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 6 This is singles league.
Double league is a different one.
【在 f***s 的大作中提到】 : 4.0/4.5是双打两个人的NTRP加起来?
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 8 楼主在USTA league没有战绩,所以就打算欺骗系统,自评2.5.
没有用,对方可以argue的,这样USTA就会派人来re-evaluate,然后如果是恶意自己评
低的,会被
取消资格,禁赛。据我们队的前辈说,我们这里从前有个3.5强的,自评3.0,被对手
complain,赶紧
输了一两场。
所以估计就是个玩笑。
【在 R*****8 的大作中提到】 : 还是不太明白,麻烦给科普一下。
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 9 kidding, right? you have 0 chance in 2.5 league.
level
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : Finished the season and ranked 12 out of 90 in 4.0/4.5 local league this : year. : With 55% winning records on 20+ single matches. Not too bad to me. : Plan to play USTA 2.5 league next year. Need to find another 7 similar level : players to build a team. Hoping to get 2010 National Chamption.
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 10 I know a 5.0 player register as 2.5 team.
He god DQed from 2.5 league. But become C rated 3.0. Then He can't be DQed
any more. So he dominate 3.0,3.5,4.0 league for coupe of years.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 楼主在USTA league没有战绩,所以就打算欺骗系统,自评2.5. : 没有用,对方可以argue的,这样USTA就会派人来re-evaluate,然后如果是恶意自己评 : 低的,会被 : 取消资格,禁赛。据我们队的前辈说,我们这里从前有个3.5强的,自评3.0,被对手 : complain,赶紧 : 输了一两场。 : 所以估计就是个玩笑。
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 11 No. I lost to an 2.5 player beginning of this year. And he lost in 2.5
league National round.
If he managed to play 2.5 league, so can I.
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】 : kidding, right? you have 0 chance in 2.5 league. : : level
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 12 3.5+ to play 3.0 league is very common. Actually, they won't be able to do
very well. There are always some 4.0 players in 3.0 league, even 4.5 players
there.
By USTA definition, most of players in National round get benchmarked. So
most of 3.0 National round players should be at least 3.5.
Also throw some games isn't the best way to avoid DQ. There are many tricks
of USTA league. Team complain may work but it all depends upon the local
cooridinator.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 楼主在USTA league没有战绩,所以就打算欺骗系统,自评2.5. : 没有用,对方可以argue的,这样USTA就会派人来re-evaluate,然后如果是恶意自己评 : 低的,会被 : 取消资格,禁赛。据我们队的前辈说,我们这里从前有个3.5强的,自评3.0,被对手 : complain,赶紧 : 输了一两场。 : 所以估计就是个玩笑。
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f***s 发帖数: 1582 | 13 个人觉得打比自己低1.0的league就有点儿不靠谱. 5.0的去打2.5的league简直就是病
态. 就好比一个大人打一个小孩,赢的很爽,但有意思么? 这种人是要被人瞧不起的. |
r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 14 I think you haven't played USTA league.
There are full of 3.5, 4.0 players in 2.5 league also especially in National
round. So he won't be boring.
【在 f***s 的大作中提到】 : 个人觉得打比自己低1.0的league就有点儿不靠谱. 5.0的去打2.5的league简直就是病 : 态. 就好比一个大人打一个小孩,赢的很爽,但有意思么? 这种人是要被人瞧不起的.
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m*****r 发帖数: 3822 | 15 like Roger Federer lol
National
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : I think you haven't played USTA league. : There are full of 3.5, 4.0 players in 2.5 league also especially in National : round. So he won't be boring.
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 16 我在打usta league,我们这里绝对没有4.0的打2.5.
我一个朋友打到regional champion game,输了,我知道她什么水平,她就是2.5-3.0
水平的。现
在被bump到3.0了。
我们这里如果usta下来investigate了,会是比较严重的问题。
National
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : I think you haven't played USTA league. : There are full of 3.5, 4.0 players in 2.5 league also especially in National : round. So he won't be boring.
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m*********e 发帖数: 944 | 17 这样做理论上没有任何问题,除了胜之不武,自己得不到提高以外。不过,俗话说,兔
子不吃窝边草,这还是有些道理的。 |
r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 18 Different places may be different. Did your area ever get National
Champtionship? How do you think about the single players in the National
Chamption team?
I met a USTA rated 50% winning player in a small state. And he just can't
hold 50% winning percentage in our 3.0 league.
USTA really don't care about NTRP ratings much. Actually, everyone is happy
with the way it is. Not many players want National Chamption. And they are
glad to play high level players for free. Also high level players will
c
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 我在打usta league,我们这里绝对没有4.0的打2.5. : 我一个朋友打到regional champion game,输了,我知道她什么水平,她就是2.5-3.0 : 水平的。现 : 在被bump到3.0了。 : 我们这里如果usta下来investigate了,会是比较严重的问题。 : : National
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d*******e 发帖数: 589 | 19 if somebody plays in 2.5 league more and more, your level will be 2.5 closer
and closer.
happy
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : Different places may be different. Did your area ever get National : Champtionship? How do you think about the single players in the National : Chamption team? : I met a USTA rated 50% winning player in a small state. And he just can't : hold 50% winning percentage in our 3.0 league. : USTA really don't care about NTRP ratings much. Actually, everyone is happy : with the way it is. Not many players want National Chamption. And they are : glad to play high level players for free. Also high level players will : c
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 20 As I said, you only got chance to play 5-6 regular match a season. Plus
playoff/section/national, it is still under 13 maches per season.
And you can try a lot of new weapons in these games, e.g. half volley, SV,
powerful 2nd serve, return winners.
closer
【在 d*******e 的大作中提到】 : if somebody plays in 2.5 league more and more, your level will be 2.5 closer : and closer. : : happy
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 21 我们队里就有2002还是2003年的state champion队里的,代表FL参加州里去national比
赛,
不过没有拿到nationa champion倒是。
我们这里是个10几万人的小town,club就6,7个。我现在所在的team所属的club组队(
一个赛季
多数时候不止一个队),一共夺得过两次state的champion。当时打2.5的,现在都被升
到3.5和
4.0了,打3.0的都被升到4.0和4.5了。
我们FL应该在national里面不弱,尤其是senior的teams。
反正我们这里只有有NTPR的rank,绝对不能违背,就是肯定不能打低水平的比赛。
National
can't
happy
are
which
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : Different places may be different. Did your area ever get National : Champtionship? How do you think about the single players in the National : Chamption team? : I met a USTA rated 50% winning player in a small state. And he just can't : hold 50% winning percentage in our 3.0 league. : USTA really don't care about NTRP ratings much. Actually, everyone is happy : with the way it is. Not many players want National Chamption. And they are : glad to play high level players for free. Also high level players will : c
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 22 另外,我这里一般一个session一个team可以打到7-8场比赛,如果打两个teams,比如3
.5的参加
3.5和4.0两个team,没有conflict的情况下,可以被安排打到10+以上比赛。
Team practice我们team这次比较差,因为recruit的不好,队长没有什么兴趣了,其他
很多队
每周practice两次,固定的pro安排训练内容。
National
can't
happy
are
which
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : Different places may be different. Did your area ever get National : Champtionship? How do you think about the single players in the National : Chamption team? : I met a USTA rated 50% winning player in a small state. And he just can't : hold 50% winning percentage in our 3.0 league. : USTA really don't care about NTRP ratings much. Actually, everyone is happy : with the way it is. Not many players want National Chamption. And they are : glad to play high level players for free. Also high level players will : c
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 23 State champion is far from National champion. After state round, they ned to
get to Sectional round. Then sectional champion got a chance to play in
National champion round.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 我们队里就有2002还是2003年的state champion队里的,代表FL参加州里去national比 : 赛, : 不过没有拿到nationa champion倒是。 : 我们这里是个10几万人的小town,club就6,7个。我现在所在的team所属的club组队( : 一个赛季 : 多数时候不止一个队),一共夺得过两次state的champion。当时打2.5的,现在都被升 : 到3.5和 : 4.0了,打3.0的都被升到4.0和4.5了。 : 我们FL应该在national里面不弱,尤其是senior的teams。 : 反正我们这里只有有NTPR的rank,绝对不能违背,就是肯定不能打低水平的比赛。
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 24 反正他们的record是去了national champion game的
ned to
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : State champion is far from National champion. After state round, they ned to : get to Sectional round. Then sectional champion got a chance to play in : National champion round.
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 25 另外,可能是因为我们这里比较大,FL光district就超过20个(具体多少个不知道)
,所以我们州里的冠军赛就叫section champion (直接copy:USA Tennis FLorida 2.5 F
Adult Section Championship)然后他们下一个record就是 Women 2.5, 20XX Adult
National Championship。
在我们local比完了,先去打的叫USA Tennis FLorida 2.5 F North Regional
Championship。
你不了解其他州情况,不要误导其他人。
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 反正他们的record是去了national champion game的 : : ned to
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 26 只要你隐藏得好,做sandbagger是十分容易的事.尤其越到后来的比赛,遇到sandbagger
的机会就越大,到了national,我是不相信,没有sandbagger的team是能够夺冠.其实这些
我以前已经讲过,就是有人不信.
关键是你已经打过4.0/4.5 USTA了,如何再去打2.5呢?即使你能打,给交过手的或以前见
过你比赛的人看到,就会给揭穿的...
happy
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : Different places may be different. Did your area ever get National : Champtionship? How do you think about the single players in the National : Chamption team? : I met a USTA rated 50% winning player in a small state. And he just can't : hold 50% winning percentage in our 3.0 league. : USTA really don't care about NTRP ratings much. Actually, everyone is happy : with the way it is. Not many players want National Chamption. And they are : glad to play high level players for free. Also high level players will : c
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f***s 发帖数: 1582 | 27 照我说, 2.5的league就应该取消,搞个national championship,还是一堆4.0/4.5甚至5
.0的在打. 如果某个人告诉我他得了2.5 national championship,我肯定对他不懈. 存
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 28 赫赫,CA更厉害,还有南北两个sections呢...
2.5 F
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 另外,可能是因为我们这里比较大,FL光district就超过20个(具体多少个不知道) : ,所以我们州里的冠军赛就叫section champion (直接copy:USA Tennis FLorida 2.5 F : Adult Section Championship)然后他们下一个record就是 Women 2.5, 20XX Adult : National Championship。 : 在我们local比完了,先去打的叫USA Tennis FLorida 2.5 F North Regional : Championship。 : 你不了解其他州情况,不要误导其他人。
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 29 嗯,看到了,16队里面就有两队ca的。
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】 : 赫赫,CA更厉害,还有南北两个sections呢... : : 2.5 F
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 30 应该是17队la
http://www.usta.com/?sc_itemid={9B82177D-584F-4F5B-A648-7A49C4C1F727}
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 嗯,看到了,16队里面就有两队ca的。
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d*g 发帖数: 16592 | 31 你这个想法根本不对,美国的运动很多都是群众运动,跑马拉松的关门时间比中国很多
马拉松都长,很
多还不关门。
我这里很多人都是成年以后打球的,从2.5打起,现在有的打到4.5.
我知道一个人,就是家庭主妇,最小的小孩上大学开始正式打球的,从3.0打起,第二
年降级到2.5,结
果一路打到national champion game,当然小组没出线。然后第三年打3.5,第四年就
打adult和
senior了(岁数不小了吧),然后现在打到4.5了。
另外一个是和女儿一起学球队,女儿5岁开始学,她送去觉得自己干等着浪费时间,就
也和教练学,之前
连网球拍都没摸过,现在女儿9岁,她打4.0了都。
就是重在参与,没有这个league,那些初学者怎么通过比赛找到乐趣和提高的
motivation啊。
至5
【在 f***s 的大作中提到】 : 照我说, 2.5的league就应该取消,搞个national championship,还是一堆4.0/4.5甚至5 : .0的在打. 如果某个人告诉我他得了2.5 national championship,我肯定对他不懈. 存 : 在的不一定是合理的.
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b**k 发帖数: 11850 | 32 good keng!
i 看好 u
level
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : Finished the season and ranked 12 out of 90 in 4.0/4.5 local league this : year. : With 55% winning records on 20+ single matches. Not too bad to me. : Plan to play USTA 2.5 league next year. Need to find another 7 similar level : players to build a team. Hoping to get 2010 National Chamption.
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 33 Then it should be called Sectional Champion not State Chamption. And there
isn't State Chamption concept in USTA org.
Also there are 17 Sections in USTA National round. It all depends upon
tennis population. And CA has two Sections.
2.5 F
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 另外,可能是因为我们这里比较大,FL光district就超过20个(具体多少个不知道) : ,所以我们州里的冠军赛就叫section champion (直接copy:USA Tennis FLorida 2.5 F : Adult Section Championship)然后他们下一个record就是 Women 2.5, 20XX Adult : National Championship。 : 在我们local比完了,先去打的叫USA Tennis FLorida 2.5 F North Regional : Championship。 : 你不了解其他州情况,不要误导其他人。
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 34 我知道有一个是50岁开始学网球,从2.5打起。2年后开始转为ATP Pro。
人和人的运动天分差很多的。
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 你这个想法根本不对,美国的运动很多都是群众运动,跑马拉松的关门时间比中国很多 : 马拉松都长,很 : 多还不关门。 : 我这里很多人都是成年以后打球的,从2.5打起,现在有的打到4.5. : 我知道一个人,就是家庭主妇,最小的小孩上大学开始正式打球的,从3.0打起,第二 : 年降级到2.5,结 : 果一路打到national champion game,当然小组没出线。然后第三年打3.5,第四年就 : 打adult和 : senior了(岁数不小了吧),然后现在打到4.5了。 : 另外一个是和女儿一起学球队,女儿5岁开始学,她送去觉得自己干等着浪费时间,就
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 35 还没打过4.0的USTA。
sandbagger
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】 : 只要你隐藏得好,做sandbagger是十分容易的事.尤其越到后来的比赛,遇到sandbagger : 的机会就越大,到了national,我是不相信,没有sandbagger的team是能够夺冠.其实这些 : 我以前已经讲过,就是有人不信. : 关键是你已经打过4.0/4.5 USTA了,如何再去打2.5呢?即使你能打,给交过手的或以前见 : 过你比赛的人看到,就会给揭穿的... : : happy
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 36 每个竞技项目都有潜规则。如果你只是玩玩,那随便怎么打都行。
如果想在里面打出成绩,就必须遵守这些潜规则。存在就是合理的。这和你能不能接受
毫无关系。
我一开始也受不了这种做法。最后还是痛苦的发现这是唯一可行之路。
至5
【在 f***s 的大作中提到】 : 照我说, 2.5的league就应该取消,搞个national championship,还是一堆4.0/4.5甚至5 : .0的在打. 如果某个人告诉我他得了2.5 national championship,我肯定对他不懈. 存 : 在的不一定是合理的.
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 37 打两个levels是Sandbagging的大忌。
如3
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】 : 另外,我这里一般一个session一个team可以打到7-8场比赛,如果打两个teams,比如3 : .5的参加 : 3.5和4.0两个team,没有conflict的情况下,可以被安排打到10+以上比赛。 : Team practice我们team这次比较差,因为recruit的不好,队长没有什么兴趣了,其他 : 很多队 : 每周practice两次,固定的pro安排训练内容。 : : National : can't : happy
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 38 这种handicap的比赛都是同样性质的。高尔夫也是一样的。
sandbagger
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】 : 只要你隐藏得好,做sandbagger是十分容易的事.尤其越到后来的比赛,遇到sandbagger : 的机会就越大,到了national,我是不相信,没有sandbagger的team是能够夺冠.其实这些 : 我以前已经讲过,就是有人不信. : 关键是你已经打过4.0/4.5 USTA了,如何再去打2.5呢?即使你能打,给交过手的或以前见 : 过你比赛的人看到,就会给揭穿的... : : happy
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a*****3 发帖数: 10373 | 39 你为什么都是repeat我讲过的东西呢?
虽然section与state是不同的concept,但鳄鱼mm说的也没错.因为FL是自己一个state为
一个section called Florida section,所以FL section chamption就是FL state
chamption.
【在 r*********x 的大作中提到】 : Then it should be called Sectional Champion not State Chamption. And there : isn't State Chamption concept in USTA org. : Also there are 17 Sections in USTA National round. It all depends upon : tennis population. And CA has two Sections. : : 2.5 F
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r*********x 发帖数: 3016 | 40 Didn't see your reply before I wrote mine.
I just want to make sure we sue the same term on the same thing. Otherwise,
it will be more confusion.
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】 : 你为什么都是repeat我讲过的东西呢? : 虽然section与state是不同的concept,但鳄鱼mm说的也没错.因为FL是自己一个state为 : 一个section called Florida section,所以FL section chamption就是FL state : chamption.
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