m****c
发帖数: 629 | 1 过去豆子一向以低于对手的 winner 和 unforced error 被认为是防守型网球的代表，
这次美网就不一样了，以美网两场半决赛和决赛的数据比较来看：
第一场半决赛
Nadal Youzhny
winner 23 21
UE 19 33
豆子 UE 固然少，winner 也超过 Youzhny，完胜。
第二场半决赛
Djokovic Federer
winner 36 48
UE 38 66
老费比小德高出12个 winner 是以多出28个 UE 为代价的，以 winner 来看，他仍然是
攻势网球的代表，只是巅峰已过，很难在这种高水准的交锋中把UE控制在赢球的水平。
决赛
Nadal Djokovic
winner 49 45
UE 31 47
豆子不但 winner 多于小德，甚至比打了五盘的老费 winner 还多，代价是少于小德16
个 UE。这组数据，清楚地说明了豆子在硬地上的打法 | O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 2 Nadal is out-serving Pete in this USO, winning his weakest slam in the most dominating fashion. Nadal is the greatest hard court player in the world...
【在 m****c 的大作中提到】
: 过去豆子一向以低于对手的 winner 和 unforced error 被认为是防守型网球的代表，
: 这次美网就不一样了，以美网两场半决赛和决赛的数据比较来看：
: 第一场半决赛
: Nadal Youzhny
: winner 23 21
: UE 19 33
: 豆子 UE 固然少，winner 也超过 Youzhny，完胜。
: 第二场半决赛
: Djokovic Federer
: winner 36 48
| m**x
发帖数: 1084 | 3 nadal has many passing shots counted as winner.
of course, nadal played a much aggressive attack game than before.
【在 m****c 的大作中提到】
: 过去豆子一向以低于对手的 winner 和 unforced error 被认为是防守型网球的代表，
: 这次美网就不一样了，以美网两场半决赛和决赛的数据比较来看：
: 第一场半决赛
: Nadal Youzhny
: winner 23 21
: UE 19 33
: 豆子 UE 固然少，winner 也超过 Youzhny，完胜。
: 第二场半决赛
: Djokovic Federer
: winner 36 48
| a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 4
you sound as if passing shots should be deeply discounted when comparing to, say, volleys, as winners. LOL.
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】
: nadal has many passing shots counted as winner.
: of course, nadal played a much aggressive attack game than before.
| m**x
发帖数: 1084 | 5 passing shots are defensive winners.
to, say, volleys, as winners. LOL.
【在 a*****0 的大作中提到】
:
: you sound as if passing shots should be deeply discounted when comparing to, say, volleys, as winners. LOL.
| a*****0
发帖数: 6788 | 6
That's old school thinking. These days players deliberately draw opponents
forward in order to pass them. There are lucky, desperate passing shot
winners these days, just like there have always been lucky, desperate volley
winners.
Standing behind the baseline is in as much of an offensive position as
standing in front of the service line in modern tennis, if not more so.
【在 m**x 的大作中提到】
: passing shots are defensive winners.
:
: to, say, volleys, as winners. LOL.
| j***b
发帖数: 5901 | 7 Regardless, passing shots are nice to watch.
opponents
volley
【在 a*****0 的大作中提到】
:
: That's old school thinking. These days players deliberately draw opponents
: forward in order to pass them. There are lucky, desperate passing shot
: winners these days, just like there have always been lucky, desperate volley
: winners.
: Standing behind the baseline is in as much of an offensive position as
: standing in front of the service line in modern tennis, if not more so.
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