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f*********e 发帖数: 8453 | 2 我宋加油。干掉饶面。
【在 w**a 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 10-10
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N******n 发帖数: 1109 | |
n*********e 发帖数: 25274 | |
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 6 Actually not that bad yet. It's just 3.5 hours so far. |
F****n 发帖数: 746 | 7 But it is really bad rule. For any players at Wimbledon or Olympics.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Actually not that bad yet. It's just 3.5 hours so far.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 8 US Open is the only GS that uses deciding set tiebreaker.
Schiavone and Kuznetsova played 4 hours in Australian Open, even
though their 3rd set only went to something like 16-14...
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : But it is really bad rule. For any players at Wimbledon or Olympics.
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F****n 发帖数: 746 | 9 This doesn't justify the rule for all other Grand Slams are wise. It surely
mean US open has reasonable rules.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : US Open is the only GS that uses deciding set tiebreaker. : Schiavone and Kuznetsova played 4 hours in Australian Open, even : though their 3rd set only went to something like 16-14...
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g*****e 发帖数: 54 | 10 In grand slams it is not so bad a rule as many matches go to the 5th set,
and some more isn't so bad (plus both player would be already tired and wont
last that long perhaps). here many matches stop at two sets, and playing
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 12 It's already much better than before.
Laver beat Roche in 1969 Australian Open semifinal by
7-5, 22-20, 9-11, 1-6, 6-3.
surely
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This doesn't justify the rule for all other Grand Slams are wise. It surely : mean US open has reasonable rules.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 13
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It's already much better than before. : Laver beat Roche in 1969 Australian Open semifinal by : 7-5, 22-20, 9-11, 1-6, 6-3. : : surely
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 14 伪球迷吧?没看过大满贯吧?
【在 g*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : In grand slams it is not so bad a rule as many matches go to the 5th set, : and some more isn't so bad (plus both player would be already tired and wont : last that long perhaps). here many matches stop at two sets, and playing : like 6 sets+ puts you at a significant disadvantage.
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 15 美网规则才是蠢。
surely
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This doesn't justify the rule for all other Grand Slams are wise. It surely : mean US open has reasonable rules.
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 16 那年头没有抢七。
所以我觉得应该男女统统恢复五盘无抢七的赛制,让女子选手也试试,省得她们
老整天叫唤不公平啊不公平。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : It's already much better than before. : Laver beat Roche in 1969 Australian Open semifinal by : 7-5, 22-20, 9-11, 1-6, 6-3. : : surely
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 17 PA warning. One more time and you are banned. Thanks.
【在 g*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : In grand slams it is not so bad a rule as many matches go to the 5th set, : and some more isn't so bad (plus both player would be already tired and wont : last that long perhaps). here many matches stop at two sets, and playing : like 6 sets+ puts you at a significant disadvantage.
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a******n 发帖数: 5925 | |
n*********e 发帖数: 25274 | 19 发球必上网...
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : PA warning. One more time and you are banned. Thanks.
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 20 hehe, nice try. :D
【在 g*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : In grand slams it is not so bad a rule as many matches go to the 5th set, : and some more isn't so bad (plus both player would be already tired and wont : last that long perhaps). here many matches stop at two sets, and playing : like 6 sets+ puts you at a significant disadvantage.
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 21 当年就这样。还有人接发球必上网呢。
【在 n*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 发球必上网...
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a******n 发帖数: 5925 | |
K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 23 这个也要看人。参见如下俩著名底线型选手。
【在 s***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 当年就这样。还有人接发球必上网呢。
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F****n 发帖数: 746 | 24 The problem we talk now is this lengthyl last set, not about other rules.
Anyway, the player are usually at simIar level if the play goes on like this
. Using tiebreak can solve problem quickly, can save time and energy for the
players. I just didn't see the good point of this rule, it is a torture for
both players.
【在 s***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 美网规则才是蠢。 : : surely
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f*********e 发帖数: 8453 | 25 规则如此,是否脑残就是见仁见智了。即使改成抢7,以后可能也会有人跳出来说不应
该抢7必须赢
两分。赢一分就够了。其实球员要做的是在规则允许的情况下尽快结束比赛。而不是自
己水平不够
没办法速胜来怪规则。
this
the
for
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The problem we talk now is this lengthyl last set, not about other rules. : Anyway, the player are usually at simIar level if the play goes on like this : . Using tiebreak can solve problem quickly, can save time and energy for the : players. I just didn't see the good point of this rule, it is a torture for : both players.
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g*****e 发帖数: 54 | 26 exactly. it's quite unfair that djoker played 15 games while tsonga got 66.
it should have stopped at 30. good they are not meeting in the 3rd round.
totally unfair.
this
the
for
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : The problem we talk now is this lengthyl last set, not about other rules. : Anyway, the player are usually at simIar level if the play goes on like this : . Using tiebreak can solve problem quickly, can save time and energy for the : players. I just didn't see the good point of this rule, it is a torture for : both players.
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 27 对。长盘的好处是,不会因为一两个滚网球或者压线球,就把人淘汰掉。
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 规则如此,是否脑残就是见仁见智了。即使改成抢7,以后可能也会有人跳出来说不应 : 该抢7必须赢 : 两分。赢一分就够了。其实球员要做的是在规则允许的情况下尽快结束比赛。而不是自 : 己水平不够 : 没办法速胜来怪规则。 : : this : the : for
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s***e 发帖数: 7166 | 28 宋佳自己打了66局,那是他自己乐意——谁叫他不早点拿下来?
.
【在 g*****e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : exactly. it's quite unfair that djoker played 15 games while tsonga got 66. : it should have stopped at 30. good they are not meeting in the 3rd round. : totally unfair. : : this : the : for
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F****n 发帖数: 746 | 29 赢一分就够了 could never be brought out because the player serve first
always has advantage.
Luck does play some role in the tie break, but the unlimited long set is not
the right solution in my personal opinion. Or they can set up to 10 sets
for example, if it is still tied, then do tie break.
If the two player are at very close level, then it is not that easy to do "
其实球员要做的是在规则允许的情况下尽快结束比赛".
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 规则如此,是否脑残就是见仁见智了。即使改成抢7,以后可能也会有人跳出来说不应 : 该抢7必须赢 : 两分。赢一分就够了。其实球员要做的是在规则允许的情况下尽快结束比赛。而不是自 : 己水平不够 : 没办法速胜来怪规则。 : : this : the : for
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g*****e 发帖数: 54 | 30 it's about rules that should protect both
fairness and players. not who should do better or whatever.
【在 s***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 宋佳自己打了66局,那是他自己乐意——谁叫他不早点拿下来? : : .
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 31 There was a cap at 9 before, e.g., if 8-8, then go tiebreaker.
But that rule was replaced by tiebreaker at 6-6 now.
not
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 赢一分就够了 could never be brought out because the player serve first : always has advantage. : Luck does play some role in the tie break, but the unlimited long set is not : the right solution in my personal opinion. Or they can set up to 10 sets : for example, if it is still tied, then do tie break. : If the two player are at very close level, then it is not that easy to do " : 其实球员要做的是在规则允许的情况下尽快结束比赛".
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f*********e 发帖数: 8453 | 32 两个球员在同一水平是可能的。但是同时发挥同一个水平是很不容易的。这也是历史上
没有太多变态长盘的原因。
我同意对于长盘合理性与否是个个人喜好问题。我的观点是长盘不一定会造成比赛无休止
的进行下去。反而更能体现球员的稳定性。消除偶然因素。
not
不应
是自
【在 F****n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 赢一分就够了 could never be brought out because the player serve first : always has advantage. : Luck does play some role in the tie break, but the unlimited long set is not : the right solution in my personal opinion. Or they can set up to 10 sets : for example, if it is still tied, then do tie break. : If the two player are at very close level, then it is not that easy to do " : 其实球员要做的是在规则允许的情况下尽快结束比赛".
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 33 美网之所以是唯一一个5th set tiebreaker的大满贯,很大原因是它的半决赛
决赛为了商业考虑分别在周六和周日,中间没有休息。个人感觉这个的
“无理”性大于长盘的无理性。
休止
【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 两个球员在同一水平是可能的。但是同时发挥同一个水平是很不容易的。这也是历史上 : 没有太多变态长盘的原因。 : 我同意对于长盘合理性与否是个个人喜好问题。我的观点是长盘不一定会造成比赛无休止 : 的进行下去。反而更能体现球员的稳定性。消除偶然因素。 : : not : 不应 : 是自
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f*********e 发帖数: 8453 | 34 恩,美网这个确实是为了商业利益摧残球员的典型例子。
史上
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 美网之所以是唯一一个5th set tiebreaker的大满贯,很大原因是它的半决赛 : 决赛为了商业考虑分别在周六和周日,中间没有休息。个人感觉这个的 : “无理”性大于长盘的无理性。 : : 休止
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n*********e 发帖数: 25274 | 35 今天风很大,第二盘打得很接近,可惜最后时刻顶不住了。。。
单打输给世界第一也不是不光彩的事,好好拼双打吧,争取为法国搞块牌子。。。 |