k*****w 发帖数: 715 | 1 Houston不少石油行业的大牛吧,有没有一些内幕抖一下,讲讲啥引起了爆炸大火,为
什么漏了这么久都止不住,有啥技术难点什么的,还有这次事故会对以后的钻探技术会
有什么影响。 |
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T*U 发帖数: 22634 | 3 今后生物技术需要飞速提高,搞出水世界里凯文科斯特纳那种的生物人,就行了。 |
Y*******y 发帖数: 1378 | 4 This is what I heard how it happened.
1. The accident started from a gas bubble in the well, and this is normal in
drilling or production wells.
2. As the gas bubble traveled up, it inflated (pressure decreases, volume
increases, temperature drops). When it reached the surface and bursted out,
it was already a big cold gas pot, and spread everywhere on the platform.
3. At this moment, usually they should shut down all equipment, especially
the engine to avoid any possible sparks to lit the gas. |
m**s 发帖数: 145 | 5 顶楼上。真没想到原来是这么回事,再讲讲怎么堵漏的吧 |
k*****w 发帖数: 715 | 6 Ding!
好奇问一下,既然都能知道有bubble,为什么就不能设个自动停机的机制,计算机一探
测到bubble就自动shut down the engine? |
T*U 发帖数: 22634 | 7 bubble多少都有一点的,那不是别干了。多少是个度的问题。
不如搞鼓风机,倒气管。隔离发电机空间。
【在 k*****w 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Ding! : 好奇问一下,既然都能知道有bubble,为什么就不能设个自动停机的机制,计算机一探 : 测到bubble就自动shut down the engine?
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h******t 发帖数: 478 | 8 DING
in
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no
【在 Y*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This is what I heard how it happened. : 1. The accident started from a gas bubble in the well, and this is normal in : drilling or production wells. : 2. As the gas bubble traveled up, it inflated (pressure decreases, volume : increases, temperature drops). When it reached the surface and bursted out, : it was already a big cold gas pot, and spread everywhere on the platform. : 3. At this moment, usually they should shut down all equipment, especially : the engine to avoid any possible sparks to lit the gas.
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Y*******y 发帖数: 1378 | 9 Before we discuss about how they fixed it, let me resolve some doubts in
your replies.
1. It is common that gas exists in oil wells. Usually, they can weight up
the drilling fluid (mud) to suppress
the gas if they see traces. In addition, on each rig/platform, there should
be equipment called gas
separator and blower, which separates the gas from oil (gas is lighter) and
burn it. This should get rid of
the gas from the well. However, all these are based on if they can control
the gas bubble to b |
c*w 发帖数: 4736 | 10 good post!
in
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no
【在 Y*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : This is what I heard how it happened. : 1. The accident started from a gas bubble in the well, and this is normal in : drilling or production wells. : 2. As the gas bubble traveled up, it inflated (pressure decreases, volume : increases, temperature drops). When it reached the surface and bursted out, : it was already a big cold gas pot, and spread everywhere on the platform. : 3. At this moment, usually they should shut down all equipment, especially : the engine to avoid any possible sparks to lit the gas.
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c****u 发帖数: 8308 | 11 不错不错,谢谢科普。今天上午还在想一天60000桶那么往海里灌,这海成了什么了。
现在每天还会漏多少桶,有个统计数字吗 |
U*********r 发帖数: 5610 | 12 nice post
thanks
should
and
【在 Y*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Before we discuss about how they fixed it, let me resolve some doubts in : your replies. : 1. It is common that gas exists in oil wells. Usually, they can weight up : the drilling fluid (mud) to suppress : the gas if they see traces. In addition, on each rig/platform, there should : be equipment called gas : separator and blower, which separates the gas from oil (gas is lighter) and : burn it. This should get rid of : the gas from the well. However, all these are based on if they can control : the gas bubble to b
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k*****w 发帖数: 715 | 13 Can you give us an idea about how big a huge bubble is?
should
and
【在 Y*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Before we discuss about how they fixed it, let me resolve some doubts in : your replies. : 1. It is common that gas exists in oil wells. Usually, they can weight up : the drilling fluid (mud) to suppress : the gas if they see traces. In addition, on each rig/platform, there should : be equipment called gas : separator and blower, which separates the gas from oil (gas is lighter) and : burn it. This should get rid of : the gas from the well. However, all these are based on if they can control : the gas bubble to b
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p****y 发帖数: 13 | 14 deserve a mark.
very nice post.
should
and
【在 Y*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Before we discuss about how they fixed it, let me resolve some doubts in : your replies. : 1. It is common that gas exists in oil wells. Usually, they can weight up : the drilling fluid (mud) to suppress : the gas if they see traces. In addition, on each rig/platform, there should : be equipment called gas : separator and blower, which separates the gas from oil (gas is lighter) and : burn it. This should get rid of : the gas from the well. However, all these are based on if they can control : the gas bubble to b
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C**C 发帖数: 1553 | 15 Possible consequences
Difficult to get more offshore drilling permits
1. offshore production reduction - E&P companies have to focus on onshore
and land wells to deliver projected production for wall street's review. :-)
2. drilling rigs could float out of GOM and won't come back in serveral
years
3. State will lost revenue with less production
Higher offshore drilling insurance
1. small independence cannot afford offshore drilling
Higher drilling costs
1. certain offshore projects cannot meet h |
C**C 发帖数: 1553 | 16 ************
This is a dangerous business, and this platform is probably as
normal as other ones. BP is unlucky this time.
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Agree that offshore driling and production has high risks. But BP was trying
to speed up the drilling (mud circulation wasn't done properly) while
reducing the cost (BOP wasn't installed? or designed? properly). And then
Murphy's law came to play. |
s**********n 发帖数: 289 | 17 美国应该禁止在本土周围的offshore drilling,要挖去别地挖去!
BP,Haliburton, Transocean都应该强制破产!
一帮混球! |
r*******n 发帖数: 563 | 18 你说这样的话休斯敦很多人会失业的哦
【在 s**********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 美国应该禁止在本土周围的offshore drilling,要挖去别地挖去! : BP,Haliburton, Transocean都应该强制破产! : 一帮混球!
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w**w 发帖数: 5391 | 19 做PLATFORM的?
GOOGLE一下BP的那个井,设计是LINER,LINER,LINER最后一个LONG STRING CASING。
打了CEMENT PLUG,听说PLUG NEGATIVE TEST FAILED (底下往上没封住)。另外又有
说最后的CASING TOC(TOP OF CEMENT)根本没有在LINER的SHOE以上。其实才14#的PP
,但是上面换SEA WATER,压力不够,有KICK。CLOSE BOP,显示BOP CLOSE了,但是事
实上BOP FAILED。
这个情况,无解。现在技术还真没办法。
should
and
【在 Y*******y 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Before we discuss about how they fixed it, let me resolve some doubts in : your replies. : 1. It is common that gas exists in oil wells. Usually, they can weight up : the drilling fluid (mud) to suppress : the gas if they see traces. In addition, on each rig/platform, there should : be equipment called gas : separator and blower, which separates the gas from oil (gas is lighter) and : burn it. This should get rid of : the gas from the well. However, all these are based on if they can control : the gas bubble to b
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w**w 发帖数: 5391 | 20 那个是连续井喷了,不是一个BUBBLE。一般遇到KICK,BUBBLE大小和压力以及钻井队反
应快慢有关,但是一般都是封了,再CIRCULATION。几个到几十个BBL是一般的。
【在 k*****w 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Can you give us an idea about how big a huge bubble is? : : should : and
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w**w 发帖数: 5391 | 21 有没有做BOP的说说这次BOP怎么会FAIL的?
BP后来确实已经做得差不多很好了,其它公司还有什么办法?恐怕这个就是现在DEEP
WATER DRILLING的技术极限了。唯一能想的就是BP的WELL DESIGN有问题,BOP的问题。
【在 k*****w 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Houston不少石油行业的大牛吧,有没有一些内幕抖一下,讲讲啥引起了爆炸大火,为 : 什么漏了这么久都止不住,有啥技术难点什么的,还有这次事故会对以后的钻探技术会 : 有什么影响。
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s*********n 发帖数: 68 | 22 事故两原因:
1)SEA WATER 放早了. 进的东西比出来的少,没留意?没措施?
2)BOP. BOP 是CAMERON产的, 出事前一两周检测通过, 有可能是自欺欺人的检测.
PP
【在 w**w 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 做PLATFORM的? : GOOGLE一下BP的那个井,设计是LINER,LINER,LINER最后一个LONG STRING CASING。 : 打了CEMENT PLUG,听说PLUG NEGATIVE TEST FAILED (底下往上没封住)。另外又有 : 说最后的CASING TOC(TOP OF CEMENT)根本没有在LINER的SHOE以上。其实才14#的PP : ,但是上面换SEA WATER,压力不够,有KICK。CLOSE BOP,显示BOP CLOSE了,但是事 : 实上BOP FAILED。 : 这个情况,无解。现在技术还真没办法。 : : should : and
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U*********r 发帖数: 5610 | 26 关于BOP,我听在Cameron工作的朋友说,BOP已经过了warranty的,建议BP换,BP不干。
这当然是一面之词,要过几年事故报告出来才知道多一些真相。
不许放狗,大家猜猜BOP多少钱一个?
事故两原因:
1)SEA WATER 放早了. 进的东西比出来的少,没留意?没措施?
2)BOP. BOP 是CAMERON产的, 出事前一两周检测通过, 有可能是自欺欺人的检测.
PP
【在 s*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 事故两原因: : 1)SEA WATER 放早了. 进的东西比出来的少,没留意?没措施? : 2)BOP. BOP 是CAMERON产的, 出事前一两周检测通过, 有可能是自欺欺人的检测. : : PP
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S*******l 发帖数: 2747 | 27 好几个米吧
【在 U*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 关于BOP,我听在Cameron工作的朋友说,BOP已经过了warranty的,建议BP换,BP不干。 : 这当然是一面之词,要过几年事故报告出来才知道多一些真相。 : 不许放狗,大家猜猜BOP多少钱一个? : : 事故两原因: : 1)SEA WATER 放早了. 进的东西比出来的少,没留意?没措施? : 2)BOP. BOP 是CAMERON产的, 出事前一两周检测通过, 有可能是自欺欺人的检测. : PP
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U*********r 发帖数: 5610 | 28 我一开始也猜是几个米,前两天问了我们公司搞这方面的一个同事才知道是二十几个米.
好几个米吧
【在 S*******l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 好几个米吧
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w*m 发帖数: 1806 | 29 据可靠消息offshore drilling permits要ban到明年年底。
-)
【在 C**C 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : Possible consequences : Difficult to get more offshore drilling permits : 1. offshore production reduction - E&P companies have to focus on onshore : and land wells to deliver projected production for wall street's review. :-) : 2. drilling rigs could float out of GOM and won't come back in serveral : years : 3. State will lost revenue with less production : Higher offshore drilling insurance : 1. small independence cannot afford offshore drilling : Higher drilling costs
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S*******l 发帖数: 2747 | 30 我靠
凭啥啊
不就是一个大点的液压阀咩
米.
【在 U*********r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我一开始也猜是几个米,前两天问了我们公司搞这方面的一个同事才知道是二十几个米. : : 好几个米吧
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U*********r 发帖数: 5610 | 31 五层楼高,250吨重.
我靠
凭啥啊
不就是一个大点的液压阀咩
米.
【在 S*******l 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png) : 我靠 : 凭啥啊 : 不就是一个大点的液压阀咩 : : 米.
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