f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 无聊，看了下25NL，50NL player pool里面的玩家，同时开3，4桌的占了差不多1/3，
而总人数又下降到rush week之前的水平，加上2桌里面混着的那些某某某，所以大家觉
得不好打也是正常。 | L****n
发帖数: 490 | 2 rush 里面 player stats
在我 holdem manager 记录里 hand histories >2000 hands and > 8bb/100 就没有。
现在rush poker profit 主要是 bonus + rakeback 了 | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 3 加上每天bb若干次,
the short stackers are very aggressive nowadays. I have been pushed 4 bet all in by AQ numerous times AJ once, JJ and 1010 couple times.... but they can almost break even against me even though they have worse hand in general.. what a ftp miracle.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 无聊，看了下25NL，50NL player pool里面的玩家，同时开3，4桌的占了差不多1/3，
: 而总人数又下降到rush week之前的水平，加上2桌里面混着的那些某某某，所以大家觉
: 得不好打也是正常。
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 most regular suck too...
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: rush 里面 player stats
: 在我 holdem manager 记录里 hand histories >2000 hands and > 8bb/100 就没有。
: 现在rush poker profit 主要是 bonus + rakeback 了
| s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 true, i play about 10K hands/week or 40K hands/month, rakeback can be like
600-800BB or so, so it's like 1.5-2BB/100, very important.
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: rush 里面 player stats
: 在我 holdem manager 记录里 hand histories >2000 hands and > 8bb/100 就没有。
: 现在rush poker profit 主要是 bonus + rakeback 了
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 as short stackers, they have to push AJ+/TT+, they can't afford calling your
3-bet (must be 10BB+ already) or folding too often, given they only got
30BB or so left.
all in by AQ numerous times AJ once, JJ and 1010 couple times.... but they
can almost break even against me even though they have worse hand in
general.. what a ftp miracle.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 加上每天bb若干次,
: the short stackers are very aggressive nowadays. I have been pushed 4 bet all in by AQ numerous times AJ once, JJ and 1010 couple times.... but they can almost break even against me even though they have worse hand in general.. what a ftp miracle.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 8 well, almost 100K hands, i still can't make real money (other than bonus,
rakeback) from 50NL rush, so i have to agree, lol.
【在 s*********r 的大作中提到】
: 觉得最近，25NL好打一点。
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 9 If they have any brain they should know not to push a TAG's 3 bet with those
junk. just not enough retards around... they did not raise then reraise all in.. they reraise all in after i 3 bet others.. they really had no business in the pot... Don't get me wrong.. i like their push. It is just tough when they can bad beat with those hands all the time...
But as it stands, people are more and more aggressive preflop, it is even more true than before "never fold KK preflop" .
your
they
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: as short stackers, they have to push AJ+/TT+, they can't afford calling your
: 3-bet (must be 10BB+ already) or folding too often, given they only got
: 30BB or so left.
:
: all in by AQ numerous times AJ once, JJ and 1010 couple times.... but they
: can almost break even against me even though they have worse hand in
: general.. what a ftp miracle.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 i have found a new trend on NL 50.. check top pair or over pair after flop,
then increase your betting size gradually. en... microstake's new fish move | | | s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 11 100k hands? No wonder all those hand history. I will stay at 25NL for a
while. Never really played a hand with you in 25NL.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: well, almost 100K hands, i still can't make real money (other than bonus,
: rakeback) from 50NL rush, so i have to agree, lol.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 12 before FTP's change in this apr., you'd see many short stackers played this
strategy or direct shoved with those 10~ hands (AJ+/TT+), that's why FTP
introduced shallow tables for them, to make deep stackers happy.
those
all in.. they reraise all in after i 3 bet others.. they really had no
business in the pot... Don't get me wrong.. i like their push. It is just
tough when they can bad beat with those hands all the time...
more true than before "never fold KK preflop" .
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: If they have any brain they should know not to push a TAG's 3 bet with those
: junk. just not enough retards around... they did not raise then reraise all in.. they reraise all in after i 3 bet others.. they really had no business in the pot... Don't get me wrong.. i like their push. It is just tough when they can bad beat with those hands all the time...
: But as it stands, people are more and more aggressive preflop, it is even more true than before "never fold KK preflop" .
:
: your
: they
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 13 shove over 1 raiser and a few caller is ok with this range. shove over a 3
bet, the range needs to be much tighter (QQ+) if you want to be a profitable
short stacker. But who are we kidding. Most of them are loser anyway, so profitability is not their top priority obviously
this
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: before FTP's change in this apr., you'd see many short stackers played this
: strategy or direct shoved with those 10~ hands (AJ+/TT+), that's why FTP
: introduced shallow tables for them, to make deep stackers happy.
:
: those
: all in.. they reraise all in after i 3 bet others.. they really had no
: business in the pot... Don't get me wrong.. i like their push. It is just
: tough when they can bad beat with those hands all the time...
: more true than before "never fold KK preflop" .
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 14 i use this strategy about 30% of time, it's called "delayed c-bet".
it has some merits:
1) nowadays, naked c-bet out of position is too often, so ppl give you less
respect (they know you only hit 1/3), so it's not always optimal to auto c-
bet. sometimes we want to hide the real strength;
2) if you hit TP or with over pair, most likely you still get the best hand
on the flop. a check could induce some aggressive players to either bluff
bet or bet with 2nd pair, which will give you more value (if
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: i have found a new trend on NL 50.. check top pair or over pair after flop,
: then increase your betting size gradually. en... microstake's new fish move
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 15 bullet one seems to be a reason to bet on tptk or over pair...
i use this strategy about 30% of time, it's called "delayed c-bet".
it has some merits:
1) nowadays, naked c-bet out of position is too often, so ppl give you less
respect (they know you only hit 1/3), so it's not always optimal to auto c-
bet. sometimes we want to hide the real strength;
2) if you hit TP or with over pair, most likely you still get the best hand
on the flop. a check could induce some aggressive players to either bl
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i use this strategy about 30% of time, it's called "delayed c-bet".
: it has some merits:
: 1) nowadays, naked c-bet out of position is too often, so ppl give you less
: respect (they know you only hit 1/3), so it's not always optimal to auto c-
: bet. sometimes we want to hide the real strength;
: 2) if you hit TP or with over pair, most likely you still get the best hand
: on the flop. a check could induce some aggressive players to either bluff
: bet or bet with 2nd pair, which will give you more value (if
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 their main strategy is to play simple ABC poker, with large number of tables
/hands (rake, bonus), and least risk (minimum buy-in). i doubt that they
have time to study a particular opponent or hand, they're robots anyway. if
they only re-shove with QQ+, they only got 4 hands to play with, blinds will
kill them. they know some ppl may 3-bet them lightly too.
profitable
profitability is not their top priority obviously
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: shove over 1 raiser and a few caller is ok with this range. shove over a 3
: bet, the range needs to be much tighter (QQ+) if you want to be a profitable
: short stacker. But who are we kidding. Most of them are loser anyway, so profitability is not their top priority obviously
:
: this
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 17 当打牌完全变成odds和range之后, 最终就是nash equilibrium了
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: true, i play about 10K hands/week or 40K hands/month, rakeback can be like
: 600-800BB or so, so it's like 1.5-2BB/100, very important.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 18 well, it's about playing the guessing game.
you c-bet x% with two naked over cards, y% with made pair, z% with over+
draws. same as check/call/raise, there needs to be a balance, otherwise you'
re playing the hand face up, TP and over PP are the two most obvious hands
in the oppenent's eyes.
less
hand
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: bullet one seems to be a reason to bet on tptk or over pair...
:
: i use this strategy about 30% of time, it's called "delayed c-bet".
: it has some merits:
: 1) nowadays, naked c-bet out of position is too often, so ppl give you less
: respect (they know you only hit 1/3), so it's not always optimal to auto c-
: bet. sometimes we want to hide the real strength;
: 2) if you hit TP or with over pair, most likely you still get the best hand
: on the flop. a check could induce some aggressive players to either bl
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 19 what are you doing these days?
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 当打牌完全变成odds和range之后, 最终就是nash equilibrium了
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 zkss?
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 当打牌完全变成odds和range之后, 最终就是nash equilibrium了
| | | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 21 还不醒悟吗?
1.赢的钱都是从rake里来,说明什么? --FTP利益最大化.你每赢一块,FTP赢3.7块.
2.fishes乱来也不会输.又是FTP利益最大化.照fishes那么打早输光不敢来了.那FTP不是没了客源?该输的不输,该赢的不赢,才是FTP利益最大化 | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 22 呵呵，RAKE只是咱们小玩家(其实俺们就是fish)的一部分利润来源而已，问问fcf这样
的大牛，人家才不在乎这个呢。
本来就是个零和游戏，统计数据92%玩家都是长期输家，只是75%的玩家认为自己比剩下
的75%玩得好而已。fish要死只是时间问题，网站要指望玩花招，尽可能剥削利润，恐怕
指望不上。
live一样也抽头，股市也收交易费，要怀疑有猫腻的话，都可以不玩了。
不是没了客源?该输的不输,该赢的不赢,才是FTP利益最大化
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 还不醒悟吗?
: 1.赢的钱都是从rake里来,说明什么? --FTP利益最大化.你每赢一块,FTP赢3.7块.
: 2.fishes乱来也不会输.又是FTP利益最大化.照fishes那么打早输光不敢来了.那FTP不是没了客源?该输的不输,该赢的不赢,才是FTP利益最大化
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 23 你这不是扯吗?
Live也扯进来,股市也扯进来.那些能不能作弊?
恐怕
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，RAKE只是咱们小玩家(其实俺们就是fish)的一部分利润来源而已，问问fcf这样
: 的大牛，人家才不在乎这个呢。
: 本来就是个零和游戏，统计数据92%玩家都是长期输家，只是75%的玩家认为自己比剩下
: 的75%玩得好而已。fish要死只是时间问题，网站要指望玩花招，尽可能剥削利润，恐怕
: 指望不上。
: live一样也抽头，股市也收交易费，要怀疑有猫腻的话，都可以不玩了。
:
: 不是没了客源?该输的不输,该赢的不赢,才是FTP利益最大化
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 24 On-line game is dead. Everyone is regular and solid. There is no profit.
P.S. 原来要不被bb 就是不要和人all in.. lol
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 你这不是扯吗?
: Live也扯进来,股市也扯进来.那些能不能作弊?
:
: 恐怕
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 25 老实说..华尔街比扑克室黑得得多了...
on-line poker is not rigged. I can assure you. If you lose money on-line, it is simply because you are not good enough...
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 你这不是扯吗?
: Live也扯进来,股市也扯进来.那些能不能作弊?
:
: 恐怕
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 26 Lose money?My ROI higher than most players.
SNG HU ROI 24% at current pokeroom, albeit at low buyin.
以前在FTP也有10%.虽然不再在那里玩了.
至于你们对华尔街看法,基本上与FLG相似.完全不懂股市的机制.
it is simply because you are not good enough...
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 老实说..华尔街比扑克室黑得得多了...
: on-line poker is not rigged. I can assure you. If you lose money on-line, it is simply because you are not good enough...
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 27 您老是不是专业抄股的? 挣了多少说来听听把...YTD return %.. 让我们可斗羡慕一下..
不是说抄股不能挣钱..是只有极少数才能挣(也就是吃吃invest bank, hedge fund etc
后的边脚料, 还要被broker抽头).. 就和on-line打牌, 只有少数稳定赚钱...
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Lose money?My ROI higher than most players.
: SNG HU ROI 24% at current pokeroom, albeit at low buyin.
: 以前在FTP也有10%.虽然不再在那里玩了.
: 至于你们对华尔街看法,基本上与FLG相似.完全不懂股市的机制.
:
: it is simply because you are not good enough...
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 28 告诉你我靠trading为生就够了.
没有任何其他工作.
一下..
etc
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 您老是不是专业抄股的? 挣了多少说来听听把...YTD return %.. 让我们可斗羡慕一下..
: 不是说抄股不能挣钱..是只有极少数才能挣(也就是吃吃invest bank, hedge fund etc
: 后的边脚料, 还要被broker抽头).. 就和on-line打牌, 只有少数稳定赚钱...
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 29 good for you and good luck to you too...
even though this proves nothing.. | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 30 我今天在FTP玩了半天,先是一连串赢,然后一连串输.屁也没挣到.全他妈大牌被小牌吃.
在我自己的pokeroom这几天ROI能到50%+.
对比一下觉得在FTP玩的人真可怜.就是替FTP打工啊.那个rakeback不是就等于做推销员的拿的提成吗?
要说FTP牌手的水平也不见的比其他地方高多少.就是特能badbeat你. | | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 31 呵呵，很久不见你老了，不要火气那么大，你是对online，尤其是FTP有很深的成见了
，无端臆测而已。
换一个角度讲，也是好事，咱不要做没信心的事不是？比如炒股，咱就没你有信心，技
术也好，你对股市的看法可能就和多数股民不同。
为什么两件事情的观点，反过来就那么迥然不同呢？
FTP什么水平，其实俺看是名字起坏了，一个tilt字眼让输家觉得FTP就是要搞鬼，越输
越玩，呵呵。不过话说回来，你去2+2看，骂PS怪牌多的一点不少，上次俺无聊google
过，说FTP做弊的links 20W, PS 18W。
至于可怜，打工什么的，咱也管不了别人爱什么不是？就象别人也无权对你指手划脚，
品头论足。
网上牌手水平，Ed Miller说了，拿到live里面就是鱼池放鲨鱼，你能在poker room赢
大钱，说明你的对手水平普遍不如你，而网上，每天大家都在大量练习，咱不比人聪明，
凭什么你赢他输？holdem火了这么多年，现在普通玩家之间互相的edge其实很小，于是
大家又去开发什么PLO，甚至现在“号称”要流行的draw games，象baducy这样的。
别说你了，俺现在宰俺师傅(玩了也很多年了
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 我今天在FTP玩了半天,先是一连串赢,然后一连串输.屁也没挣到.全他妈大牌被小牌吃.
: 在我自己的pokeroom这几天ROI能到50%+.
: 对比一下觉得在FTP玩的人真可怜.就是替FTP打工啊.那个rakeback不是就等于做推销员的拿的提成吗?
: 要说FTP牌手的水平也不见的比其他地方高多少.就是特能badbeat你.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 32 Online没有edge?为什么我在这个thread里看到的都说fishes如何如何,不是没edge,是badbeats?
我昨天在FTP打了很长时间HU,edge很明显啊.对手的牌我完全看的懂.我的牌对手看不懂.赢不了是因为badbeats,这个是没有疑问的.
如果online比live BB多,可以用发牌快来解释,那么同为online poker,为什么FTP和其他sites差别那么大?(不要说没差别,那又是无视事实).
我看以fryking为代表的一类人就是不相信自己的眼睛,而盲信"正统,流行"的说法.碰到解释不通的事情,就选择性无视. | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 昨天没看懂这句话...难到你是轮轮?
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Online没有edge?为什么我在这个thread里看到的都说fishes如何如何,不是没edge,是badbeats?
: 我昨天在FTP打了很长时间HU,edge很明显啊.对手的牌我完全看的懂.我的牌对手看不懂.赢不了是因为badbeats,这个是没有疑问的.
: 如果online比live BB多,可以用发牌快来解释,那么同为online poker,为什么FTP和其他sites差别那么大?(不要说没差别,那又是无视事实).
: 我看以fryking为代表的一类人就是不相信自己的眼睛,而盲信"正统,流行"的说法.碰到解释不通的事情,就选择性无视.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 34 这句话的意思就是,说wallstreet黑的那套说法,水平和FLG相当.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 昨天没看懂这句话...难到你是轮轮?
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 35 靠.. 听上去象你门对华尔街的看法就象你们对flg的看法一样...
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: 这句话的意思就是,说wallstreet黑的那套说法,水平和FLG相当.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 36 哪里有事实? 你做过数据分析吗? 你的sample size 是多少? 我觉得你有点太自信
自己eye ball data analysis 的能力了..这样做出武断的结论只能destroy你自己的credibility.
是badbeats?
懂.赢不了是因为badbeats,这个是没有疑问的.
其他sites差别那么大?(不要说没差别,那又是无视事实).
到解释不通的事情,就选择性无视.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Online没有edge?为什么我在这个thread里看到的都说fishes如何如何,不是没edge,是badbeats?
: 我昨天在FTP打了很长时间HU,edge很明显啊.对手的牌我完全看的懂.我的牌对手看不懂.赢不了是因为badbeats,这个是没有疑问的.
: 如果online比live BB多,可以用发牌快来解释,那么同为online poker,为什么FTP和其他sites差别那么大?(不要说没差别,那又是无视事实).
: 我看以fryking为代表的一类人就是不相信自己的眼睛,而盲信"正统,流行"的说法.碰到解释不通的事情,就选择性无视.
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 37 live poker作弊不可能.
操纵整个市场比那个还要不可能一千倍. | w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 38 sample size说是个误解.
我曾经说过一个比喻.
同学A早上去教室路上分别碰到5个不同,不认识的人从后面拍他的头,然后说"对不起,认
错人了".
这是误会吗?
sample size派的人会说,因为平均每人一生遇到这样的误会10次,所以必须等到同学A80
岁后,统计他一生总共遇到多少次误会再下结论
而头脑清醒的人,一看就知道这不过是某同学A熟人在背后搞的恶作剧.
5%的BB连出5次的概率是百万分之三.我不用等几十万几百万手.上面的情况短期内经常出现就是有问题.
credibility.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 哪里有事实? 你做过数据分析吗? 你的sample size 是多少? 我觉得你有点太自信
: 自己eye ball data analysis 的能力了..这样做出武断的结论只能destroy你自己的credibility.
:
: 是badbeats?
: 懂.赢不了是因为badbeats,这个是没有疑问的.
: 其他sites差别那么大?(不要说没差别,那又是无视事实).
: 到解释不通的事情,就选择性无视.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 39 呵呵，不是自相矛盾么，一边说FTP搞鬼，一边说自己在FTP HU如何牛。
你去问问durrr怎么从$100发家的，问问gboro780怎么在FTP，PS同样优秀的战绩，最差
，问问fcf人家的看法。
俺前面就说了，俺们就是fish，在俺们下面可能还有点小虾米可吃，大家进步都很快，
俺们不提高就是小虾米。不承认自己水平不够，拿badbeats, rigged来遮羞，你去2+2
看看，这样的玩家成千上万，live poker room外面抽烟的那一群，个个都跟祥林嫂似
的骂牌怪，骂对手驴...就很少听见有人说，我几手关键的牌打错了，错在哪，可能
怎么打更好，我的水平在这个级别还是不行...玩扑克的人ego都太过了，自己还不知道。
实话实说，你太过于自信了，也偏激了。不过还是那句话，做你有信心的事情，不信
FTP，不信online对具体个人未必是坏事，祝你live赢钱，呵呵。
A80
常出现就是有问题.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: sample size说是个误解.
: 我曾经说过一个比喻.
: 同学A早上去教室路上分别碰到5个不同,不认识的人从后面拍他的头,然后说"对不起,认
: 错人了".
: 这是误会吗?
: sample size派的人会说,因为平均每人一生遇到这样的误会10次,所以必须等到同学A80
: 岁后,统计他一生总共遇到多少次误会再下结论
: 而头脑清醒的人,一看就知道这不过是某同学A熟人在背后搞的恶作剧.
: 5%的BB连出5次的概率是百万分之三.我不用等几十万几百万手.上面的情况短期内经常出现就是有问题.
:
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 40 live poker不可能做弊，你这个绝对是开玩笑。
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: live poker作弊不可能.
: 操纵整个市场比那个还要不可能一千倍.
| | | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 41 SNG HU ROI 24% at current pokeroom, albeit at low buyin.------ it is almost
impossible. Normally ppl have 3%-5% ROI, that is it.
I play a ton of HUSNG recently, I know that.
Suppose you play 20 games in one hour,
you win 11 games, lose 9 games. That is it.
I do not know how to calculate ROI, but I guess it should be 2 games(profit)
/ 20 games (investment) = 0.1 = 10%
99.999% ppl can not achieve that if the stake fits you.
Suppose you play 30 games, you win 16 games, lose 14 games.
ROI = 2 / 30
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: Lose money?My ROI higher than most players.
: SNG HU ROI 24% at current pokeroom, albeit at low buyin.
: 以前在FTP也有10%.虽然不再在那里玩了.
: 至于你们对华尔街看法,基本上与FLG相似.完全不懂股市的机制.
:
: it is simply because you are not good enough...
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 42 Sometimes , you are tilted, then you lose a lot of hard working .
lose 6 games in a row, you need a ton of hardworking to catch up.
Show Players 7/24/2010 8:21 AM $35 + $0.75 Heads Up Sit & Go $35.00
+$0.75 2 2 $0.00
Show Players 7/24/2010 8:16 AM $35 + $0.75 Heads Up Sit & Go $35.00
+$0.75 2 1 $70.00
Show Players 7/24/2010 8:12 AM $35 + $0.75 Heads Up Sit & Go $35.00
+$0.75 2 2 $0.00
Show Players 7/24/2010 8:09 AM $35 + $0.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: SNG HU ROI 24% at current pokeroom, albeit at low buyin.------ it is almost
: impossible. Normally ppl have 3%-5% ROI, that is it.
: I play a ton of HUSNG recently, I know that.
: Suppose you play 20 games in one hour,
: you win 11 games, lose 9 games. That is it.
: I do not know how to calculate ROI, but I guess it should be 2 games(profit)
: / 20 games (investment) = 0.1 = 10%
: 99.999% ppl can not achieve that if the stake fits you.
: Suppose you play 30 games, you win 16 games, lose 14 games.
: ROI = 2 / 30
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 43 My data is from sharkscope, both pokerrooms over 1000 games, but per my
memery, I played lot of more games. Maybe their data only show recent months?
这个是昨天的.从股市close后开始打,18 games,profit $51.
2010-7-23 15:58:32
P473001571 Poker - Table Buy In ($5.25) $203.20
2010-7-23 16:34:17
F201508114 Poker - Table Cashout $10.00 $213.20
2010-7-23 16:39:45
P473003340 Poker - Table Buy In ($5.25) $207.95
2010-7-23 17:05:28
F201509372 Poker - Table Cashout $10.00 $217.95
2010-7-23 18:06:06
P473007556 Poker - Tab
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: SNG HU ROI 24% at current pokeroom, albeit at low buyin.------ it is almost
: impossible. Normally ppl have 3%-5% ROI, that is it.
: I play a ton of HUSNG recently, I know that.
: Suppose you play 20 games in one hour,
: you win 11 games, lose 9 games. That is it.
: I do not know how to calculate ROI, but I guess it should be 2 games(profit)
: / 20 games (investment) = 0.1 = 10%
: 99.999% ppl can not achieve that if the stake fits you.
: Suppose you play 30 games, you win 16 games, lose 14 games.
: ROI = 2 / 30
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 44 Poker Network Games Played Average Profit Average ROI %
Total Profit Average Buy-In ITM % Wins/Loses Early Finishes
% Late Finishes % Filter
Full Tilt Poker 2356 $1.49 6% $3,508.10 $24.50 53.0%
1272/1084 0.0% 0.0% Last 90 Days x | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 45 This is not HU SNG.
The example are as follows:
Ended Tournament Buy-in + Fee Rank Prize
07/24/2010 $35 + $0.75 Heads Up Sit & Go $35.00+$0.75 1/2 $70.00
07/24/2010 $35 + $0.75 Heads Up Sit & Go $35.00+$0.75 2/2 $0.00
07/24/2010 $35 + $0.75 Heads Up Sit & Go $35.00+$0.75 2/2 $0.00
2010-7-23 15:58:32
P473001571 Poker - Table Buy In ($5.25) $203.20
months?
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: My data is from sharkscope, both pokerrooms over 1000 games, but per my
: memery, I played lot of more games. Maybe their data only show recent months?
: 这个是昨天的.从股市close后开始打,18 games,profit $51.
: 2010-7-23 15:58:32
: P473001571 Poker - Table Buy In ($5.25) $203.20
: 2010-7-23 16:34:17
: F201508114 Poker - Table Cashout $10.00 $213.20
: 2010-7-23 16:39:45
: P473003340 Poker - Table Buy In ($5.25) $207.95
: 2010-7-23 17:05:28
| w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 46 It was.My pokerroom is not fulltilt.
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: This is not HU SNG.
: The example are as follows:
: Ended Tournament Buy-in + Fee Rank Prize
: 07/24/2010 $35 + $0.75 Heads Up Sit & Go $35.00+$0.75 1/2 $70.00
: 07/24/2010 $35 + $0.75 Heads Up Sit & Go $35.00+$0.75 2/2 $0.00
: 07/24/2010 $35 + $0.75 Heads Up Sit & Go $35.00+$0.75 2/2 $0.00
: 2010-7-23 15:58:32
: P473001571 Poker - Table Buy In ($5.25) $203.20
:
: months?
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 47 you had turn all in and got beat by river 2 outer 5 time in a row? honestly
, i have to see it to believe it.. or are you pulling this from air?
3 times in a row it is 万分之一..so it would not be uncommon, if you have played 200k hand this year like me. 3 times and 5 times in a row seems small difference but the probability difference is huge.
5%的BB连出5次的概率是百万分之三.我不用等几十万几百万手.上面的情况短期内经常
出现就是有问题.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】
: It was.My pokerroom is not fulltilt.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 48 这两天rush NL50一堆送钱的short stack.. | L****n
发帖数: 490 | 49 5.25 的 Headsup SNG 根本就没啥,都是些不会打的。我上百场也有 27% ROI.如果2
table 的话， hourly rate 也就十多快点。
打到20 dollar buyin 的话， edge 就很小了。基本上只能5-10% ROI。而且game last
much longer. | p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 50 忙着糊口啊, 唉, 俺不像老大,有稳定工作. 打holdem还是需要有个稳定的经济来源的
时候比较好,否则压力太大
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: what are you doing these days?
| | | H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 51 黎叔你也哭穷？
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 忙着糊口啊, 唉, 俺不像老大,有稳定工作. 打holdem还是需要有个稳定的经济来源的
: 时候比较好,否则压力太大
| y**t
发帖数: 205 | 52 梨叔好，好久没见了。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 忙着糊口啊, 唉, 俺不像老大,有稳定工作. 打holdem还是需要有个稳定的经济来源的
: 时候比较好,否则压力太大
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 53 嗯,你最近如何啊
【在 y**t 的大作中提到】
: 梨叔好，好久没见了。
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