f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | |
c*****a
发帖数: 447 | 2 fold.
这种牌我一向是输钱的。 两家都是DRAW都会给他们DRAW到的。 我都不记得我赢过这
种牌。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 靠，all limped pot...
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g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 3 fryking, you dont use HM?
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 靠，all limped pot...
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v*****e
发帖数: 497 | 4 在live我不会fold。
在ftp上还是fold为妙，八成又是俩set，俩straight，最后flush赢
你是leading bet,他shove你，你只能beat 85，而且是相对其他来说最不可能limp的牌，fold吧。
但是如果我玩，肯定call了，因为压根没时间想这么多。
不过我估计你八成是没想太多就fold了，都悠闲到有时间来截图了 |
W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 utg donk has AA. button can not have anything better than you or he will smooth call, probably a draw.
瞎猜的..they both look fishy though... |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 i turned it off during play, too much info, overwhelming.
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: fryking, you dont use HM?
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 sigh, very tough...
when UTG donk shoves, my finger is ready to click "call", he's a fish for
sure. but when button donk re-shoves too to isolate me...
i do put UTG on a good pair, he's too nervous to see this wet flop, typical
inconsistency leak without a plan (preflop and flop).
i do put BTN on flush draw too (too heavy for str8 draw), she (a regular)
wants to push me out so badly. TPTK likely but not for this suicide size if
i do have a big hand too. set? no chance. flopped str8, same as set,
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: utg donk has AA. button can not have anything better than you or he will smooth call, probably a draw.
: 瞎猜的..they both look fishy though...
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 8 oh, missed a chance to double+ up.
In Rush, it is too tricky. In MTT, call is certain.
The BTN shove is not too good. For any TP/OP, he is just around 50:50. UTG
already allin, he does have fold equity(2$ only) from you.
But why not just call to draw? |
D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 9 That means you put him on strong draw and still fold top two?
well you must know FTP well
typical
if
way.
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: sigh, very tough...
: when UTG donk shoves, my finger is ready to click "call", he's a fish for
: sure. but when button donk re-shoves too to isolate me...
: i do put UTG on a good pair, he's too nervous to see this wet flop, typical
: inconsistency leak without a plan (preflop and flop).
: i do put BTN on flush draw too (too heavy for str8 draw), she (a regular)
: wants to push me out so badly. TPTK likely but not for this suicide size if
: i do have a big hand too. set? no chance. flopped str8, same as set,
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 10 against a draw, i'm not a big favorite.
flush draw, 3:2.
flush + gutshot, even money,
combo, 2:3.
plus small chances she does have a made hand, this whole picture is not
pretty at all.
plus situations i lose to UTG, beat BTN, i make no money for my stack size.
【在 D*A 的大作中提到】
: That means you put him on strong draw and still fold top two?
: well you must know FTP well
:
: typical
: if
: way.
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c*****a
发帖数: 447 | 11 the rule of tumb is always put as much money into the pot as possible when
you have better than 50% to win. the straight flush combo draw is about 51
% to 49% agianst two pairs. and about 52% to 48% against an over pair.
and going all in first comes with fold equalty.
two more things to consider. 1. it is very difficult to get people's whole
stack with a made flush/straight. that is why people prefer to set mine.
very difficult to tell a set but most people can read flush/straight boa
【在 s*********k 的大作中提到】
: oh, missed a chance to double+ up.
: In Rush, it is too tricky. In MTT, call is certain.
: The BTN shove is not too good. For any TP/OP, he is just around 50:50. UTG
: already allin, he does have fold equity(2$ only) from you.
: But why not just call to draw?
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 12 sigh.
51
whole
.
call
【在 c*****a 的大作中提到】
: the rule of tumb is always put as much money into the pot as possible when
: you have better than 50% to win. the straight flush combo draw is about 51
: % to 49% agianst two pairs. and about 52% to 48% against an over pair.
: and going all in first comes with fold equalty.
: two more things to consider. 1. it is very difficult to get people's whole
: stack with a made flush/straight. that is why people prefer to set mine.
: very difficult to tell a set but most people can read flush/straight boa
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 13 109s combo draw is on a strong side of button's range, he could also have 56
98 76 a pair + a straight draw or 109o just a straight draw
it is a snap call only because the action determines it. i would fold 2 pair many other times.
but we need to be careful of what level of thinking button is in. If he is 1 level higher or 1 level lower than what I thought he was in it become very tricky. But most NL50 regular are at his level. UTG is a total fish. we can simply ignore him... |
f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 14 i guess BTN shoves for a reason, she puts me on a hand that MIGHT call UTG's
donk shove for $20 (therefore become committed for hands like TP + open ended).
a limped pot and my 2/3 lead bet give her such info.
a str8 draw only is not likely on this two hearts flop. she's a regular, i
guess she knows for big action like this, she needs some sorts of hands that
can draw to the nuts although she's behind for now.
i don't really like these little top 2 pairs on a draw heavy flop and 3-way
action. mo
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 109s combo draw is on a strong side of button's range, he could also have 56
: 98 76 a pair + a straight draw or 109o just a straight draw
: it is a snap call only because the action determines it. i would fold 2 pair many other times.
: but we need to be careful of what level of thinking button is in. If he is 1 level higher or 1 level lower than what I thought he was in it become very tricky. But most NL50 regular are at his level. UTG is a total fish. we can simply ignore him...
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 15 2 pair is definitely medium strength hand. no question about it. I folded
bottom set even in the hand in here:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/TexasHoldem/31187607.html
but that hand is quite different from this hand. The check raiser's range is
a lot stronger than bottom set based on my read.. but fryking in your hand,
i will call with bottom set in a heart beat so as top 2 pair most likely.
Read is everything in this situation. Action determines their hand strength.
but my read is putting t |
