h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 1 SB这人的数据是10/8/5.6，一共210手历史。5.6%的3bet偏高，但有可能是统计误差，
另外第三个玩家的存在让事情有点复杂。
假设第三个人不存在，再假设5.6%的数据精确，你们一般会不会在这里4bet？5.6%的
range包括了88+, ATs+，AJo+，还是很广的，我手里又有两张blocker。
不过对方非常短筹，感觉有好牌的几率倒是加大了。可能EV上来说稍正（如果还有fold
equity的话）。
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1109103
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
BTN: $23.70
SB: $12.39
BB: $8.54
UTG: $10.00
Hero (UTG+1): $49.65
UTG+2: $50.77
MP1: $25.83
MP2: $33.30
CO: $32.11
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with Ks As
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, 2 folds, SB raises
to $3, 1 fold, Hero requests TIME, 2 folds
Final Pot: $2.50
SB wins $2.50 | h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 2 不过话说回来，10/8的玩家3bet一般到不了5.6，应该还是统计误差吧。他才raise 8%
，3bet机会不高。
fold
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: SB这人的数据是10/8/5.6，一共210手历史。5.6%的3bet偏高，但有可能是统计误差，
: 另外第三个玩家的存在让事情有点复杂。
: 假设第三个人不存在，再假设5.6%的数据精确，你们一般会不会在这里4bet？5.6%的
: range包括了88+, ATs+，AJo+，还是很广的，我手里又有两张blocker。
: 不过对方非常短筹，感觉有好牌的几率倒是加大了。可能EV上来说稍正（如果还有fold
: equity的话）。
: Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1109103
: The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
: BTN: $23.70
: SB: $12.39
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 3 10/8 nit and short stack, not worth it, at best a coin flip.
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: 不过话说回来，10/8的玩家3bet一般到不了5.6，应该还是统计误差吧。他才raise 8%
: ，3bet机会不高。
:
: fold
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 at best coin flipping is correct probably. But i am shoving anyway~~~ hoho...
I hate to lose 3bb for my redline.. SHOVE~~~~~and berate him in chat if he show up with AQ- JJ-
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 10/8 nit and short stack, not worth it, at best a coin flip.
| h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 5 i guess we shouldn't worry about the limp guy too much. It's really rare
that he has a monster while SB 3bets and I'm holding one A and one K.
I like to see flop with tight players. Although they won't pay off big, the
success rate of bluff is pretty high. The best flop is one high card two low
cards, or some draw heavy texture. I don't like all low cards because they
often have a pocket pair and could call my cbet. Perhaps I need to fire more
on turn/river..
...
show up with AQ- JJ-
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: at best coin flipping is correct probably. But i am shoving anyway~~~ hoho...
: I hate to lose 3bb for my redline.. SHOVE~~~~~and berate him in chat if he show up with AQ- JJ-
:
| h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 6 对了，你们有没有注意到这个hand converter说的是“1 fold, 2 folds”，开始我觉
得奇怪，后来意识到这里fold是名词，呵呵。
fold
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: SB这人的数据是10/8/5.6，一共210手历史。5.6%的3bet偏高，但有可能是统计误差，
: 另外第三个玩家的存在让事情有点复杂。
: 假设第三个人不存在，再假设5.6%的数据精确，你们一般会不会在这里4bet？5.6%的
: range包括了88+, ATs+，AJo+，还是很广的，我手里又有两张blocker。
: 不过对方非常短筹，感觉有好牌的几率倒是加大了。可能EV上来说稍正（如果还有fold
: equity的话）。
: Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1109103
: The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
: BTN: $23.70
: SB: $12.39
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 名动通用~~
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: 对了，你们有没有注意到这个hand converter说的是“1 fold, 2 folds”，开始我觉
: 得奇怪，后来意识到这里fold是名词，呵呵。
:
: fold
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 where is the flop? you folded pre.
I like to see flop with tight players. Although they won't pay off big, the
success rate of bluff is pretty high. The best flop is one high card two low
cards, or some draw heavy texture. I don't like all low cards because they
often have a pocket pair and could call my cbet. Perhaps I need to fire more
on turn/river..
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: 对了，你们有没有注意到这个hand converter说的是“1 fold, 2 folds”，开始我觉
: 得奇怪，后来意识到这里fold是名词，呵呵。
:
: fold
| h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 9 not this hand. I mean in general it seems profitable to see some flops with
tight players (if heads up), especially in position.
the
low
more
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: where is the flop? you folded pre.
:
: I like to see flop with tight players. Although they won't pay off big, the
: success rate of bluff is pretty high. The best flop is one high card two low
: cards, or some draw heavy texture. I don't like all low cards because they
: often have a pocket pair and could call my cbet. Perhaps I need to fire more
: on turn/river..
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 Like I said. Can never fold here.. lol...
3 better has similar stats, it is still a 4 bet and get it in.
If he has AA KK, berate him in chat for having a fish size stack. if he has anything less than that, berate him for being a fish~~~
===========================
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter
SB ($40.85)
BB ($353.25)
UTG ($84.25)
Hero (UTG+1) ($124.50)
MP1 ($113.25)
MP2 ($135.50)
MP3 ($162.35)
CO ($107.40)
Button ($52.75)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Ac, Kc
UTG calls $1, Hero bets $4.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $4.50, 3 folds, SB raises
to $13, 2 folds, Hero raises to $25, 1 fold, SB raises to $40.85 (All-In),
Hero calls $15.85
Flop: ($88.20) 3h, 4h, Jc (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($88.20) 3c (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($88.20) Ah (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $88.20 | Rake: $3
Results:
SB had Qs, Qh (two pair, Queens and threes).
Hero had Ac, Kc (two pair, Aces and threes).
Outcome: Hero won $85.20 | h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 11 Yep I think 4bet at least is not bad EV wise. It should be small +EV.
If I were the short stack, I would 3bet allin directly to maximize my fold
equity and remove fold equity for the opponent.
Sure this would give a tell that I probably didn't have AA/KK. But overall
it's not that bad because:
1. I'm not folding QQ in this situation anyway, so I'm not worried that AA/
KK senses my "weakness". And if someone uses this "leak" to correctly (odds
wise) calls with AK, I am not in bad shape either. If he calls with JJ/TT,
even better.
2. I can push AA/KK in the same way too. One guy did pay me off with KK when
I allin 100BB with AA over his 3bet. I acted like those poor players and he
paid off. But after that I had to leave a note "I allin AA big and he calls
with KK".
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Like I said. Can never fold here.. lol...
: 3 better has similar stats, it is still a 4 bet and get it in.
: If he has AA KK, berate him in chat for having a fish size stack. if he has anything less than that, berate him for being a fish~~~
: ===========================
: Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter
: SB ($40.85)
: BB ($353.25)
: UTG ($84.25)
: Hero (UTG+1) ($124.50)
: MP1 ($113.25)
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 Another one.
JJ is monster too~~~.. yeah i am good at coin flips~~~
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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter
SB ($26.90)
BB ($121.70)
UTG ($51.05)
UTG+1 ($173.90)
Hero (MP1) ($184.25)
MP2 ($56.65)
MP3 ($128.05)
CO ($132.45)
Button ($50.85)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Jc, Jd
2 folds, Hero bets $3, 2 folds, CO calls $3, Button raises to $13.50, 2
folds, Hero raises to $24, 1 fold, Button raises to $50.85 (All-In), Hero
calls $26.85
Flop: ($106.20) 3c, 8h, 3d (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($106.20) 8c (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($106.20) 4d (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $106.20 | Rake: $3
Results:
Button had As, Ks (two pair, eights and threes).
Hero had Jc, Jd (two pair, Jacks and eights).
Outcome: Hero won $103.20 |
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