f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 1 1/2NL, 5-way limped pot, hero at UTG with 45s.
flop: 367, two diamonds, not in hero's suit.
hero bets $10 pot, MP (a new guy, not much info) calls, LP (rock) calls.
turn: 5 offsuit, hero bets $20, MP instantly raises to $75 (with $70 left),
LP tanks and folds.
hero? | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 somebody enlights hero pls, tough spot.
,
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 1/2NL, 5-way limped pot, hero at UTG with 45s.
: flop: 367, two diamonds, not in hero's suit.
: hero bets $10 pot, MP (a new guy, not much info) calls, LP (rock) calls.
: turn: 5 offsuit, hero bets $20, MP instantly raises to $75 (with $70 left),
: LP tanks and folds.
: hero?
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 3 i don't think i can fold here, so we shove even though you can run into 98
sometimes. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 so is it a 100% in or like 80:20, etc.? thanks.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: i don't think i can fold here, so we shove even though you can run into 98
: sometimes.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 5 honestly, I do not know... he can have a 4 or set. he can have over played two pair who are scared of flush draw. I have seen donks/fishes doing all type of weird stuff at this spot. With the stack size so shallow, i think we just have to play to the end. If it is 200bb stack, maybe you can find a fold button or if it is the rock who raised (even rocks spazz out with sets sometimes).~
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: so is it a 100% in or like 80:20, etc.? thanks.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 6 $75 with $70 left is really a tough spot, he's committed for sure, but with
what? sigh.
two pair who are scared of flush draw. I have seen donks/fishes doing all
type of weird stuff at this spot. With the stack size so shallow, i think we
just have to play to the end. If it is 200bb stack, maybe you can find a
fold button or if it is the rock who raised (even rocks spazz out with sets
sometimes).~
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: honestly, I do not know... he can have a 4 or set. he can have over played two pair who are scared of flush draw. I have seen donks/fishes doing all type of weird stuff at this spot. With the stack size so shallow, i think we just have to play to the end. If it is 200bb stack, maybe you can find a fold button or if it is the rock who raised (even rocks spazz out with sets sometimes).~
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 所以, 你不fold 就shove. he is never folding his 2 pair or sets, or even gut
shot with a flush draw.
with
we
sets
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: $75 with $70 left is really a tough spot, he's committed for sure, but with
: what? sigh.
:
: two pair who are scared of flush draw. I have seen donks/fishes doing all
: type of weird stuff at this spot. With the stack size so shallow, i think we
: just have to play to the end. If it is 200bb stack, maybe you can find a
: fold button or if it is the rock who raised (even rocks spazz out with sets
: sometimes).~
| g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 8 I will fold. looks like MP has higher str8. | g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 9 MP is new guy without much info. I fold here. not a big deal to me to fold
flopped nuts str8. | p******e
发帖数: 327 | 10 i will fold and study his style to wait for a better opportunity | | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 11 UTG tables his 45s and gives MP this angry look, "tell me, do you have 89?
tell me, otherwise i'll chase you down all night, no matter where you go!@(#
$*(#@@_##".
everyone is laughing and UTG asks again for MP's remaining stack, shakes his
head for 2 minutes and folds in big disgust. LP (rock) reminds/comforts him
saying it looks like the best result for him is like a chop.
MP is me with indeed 89s, i wonder if i could play any better in this spot
and get a better % he (or anyone in general) would call.
after the hand, he still wants to know what i have, i only tell him, "
believe it or not, i guess 99% of 1/2 players cannot lay down a flopped nut
str8 in this situation, be proud of yourself."
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: MP is new guy without much info. I fold here. not a big deal to me to fold
: flopped nuts str8.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 utg's reaction sucks.. 没修养啊~~
(#
his
him
nut
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: UTG tables his 45s and gives MP this angry look, "tell me, do you have 89?
: tell me, otherwise i'll chase you down all night, no matter where you go!@(#
: $*(#@@_##".
: everyone is laughing and UTG asks again for MP's remaining stack, shakes his
: head for 2 minutes and folds in big disgust. LP (rock) reminds/comforts him
: saying it looks like the best result for him is like a chop.
: MP is me with indeed 89s, i wonder if i could play any better in this spot
: and get a better % he (or anyone in general) would call.
: after the hand, he still wants to know what i have, i only tell him, "
: believe it or not, i guess 99% of 1/2 players cannot lay down a flopped nut
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 13 btw, if you are MP, I know the worst hand you can have is 4X~.. no kidding..
hehe..
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: utg's reaction sucks.. 没修养啊~~
:
: (#
: his
: him
: nut
| g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 14 Looks like UTG is not a bad player.
Why raise here? there is 4 cards str8 on board, raise here is too strong. I
will call:
1. show some weakness
2. have LP in
3. have all chips in the middle so people have trouble to fold the river bet.
4. size, as you did, no matter what you do, the raise sizing just does not
look right. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 15 he's indeed mad for a while, i'm mad at myself too for not putting him on a
monster either, i don't like my instant action without much reasoning
process.
he later claims he's a regular at borgata too, well, i don't care, with him
and the rock at this table, it's not profitable for donkey me, so i leave.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: utg's reaction sucks.. 没修养啊~~
:
: (#
: his
: him
: nut
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 16 all good points, this is why i have this hand in my head for days, lol, try
to become better, right?
I
bet.
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: Looks like UTG is not a bad player.
: Why raise here? there is 4 cards str8 on board, raise here is too strong. I
: will call:
: 1. show some weakness
: 2. have LP in
: 3. have all chips in the middle so people have trouble to fold the river bet.
: 4. size, as you did, no matter what you do, the raise sizing just does not
: look right.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 17 sizing is indeed an issue. 50$ is a better size to raise. he calls 30 and
pot will be 130. you have 90$ left for a perfect shove size. You can also
bet 85$ instead of "all in" to be "tricky".
I
bet.
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: Looks like UTG is not a bad player.
: Why raise here? there is 4 cards str8 on board, raise here is too strong. I
: will call:
: 1. show some weakness
: 2. have LP in
: 3. have all chips in the middle so people have trouble to fold the river bet.
: 4. size, as you did, no matter what you do, the raise sizing just does not
: look right.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 18 but I don't really like calling here. Too good of odds for anyone to call.
Not enough chips in the middle to go all in at river. if some scary card
comes such as flush card or paired boar you will start second guess yourself
or he will have a much narrow calling range as well facing a big bets.
I
bet.
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: Looks like UTG is not a bad player.
: Why raise here? there is 4 cards str8 on board, raise here is too strong. I
: will call:
: 1. show some weakness
: 2. have LP in
: 3. have all chips in the middle so people have trouble to fold the river bet.
: 4. size, as you did, no matter what you do, the raise sizing just does not
: look right.
| g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 19 yeah, raise 50$ is good too. it's hard to resisant it. but this certainly
triggers the alert and scare the LP away. possibe another 50 value on river.
either way is better than raise.
yourself
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: but I don't really like calling here. Too good of odds for anyone to call.
: Not enough chips in the middle to go all in at river. if some scary card
: comes such as flush card or paired boar you will start second guess yourself
: or he will have a much narrow calling range as well facing a big bets.
:
: I
: bet.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 Were you at Borgata this weekend?
I have no idea what he is mad about.. lol.. 真是人间百态..
a
him
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: he's indeed mad for a while, i'm mad at myself too for not putting him on a
: monster either, i don't like my instant action without much reasoning
: process.
: he later claims he's a regular at borgata too, well, i don't care, with him
: and the rock at this table, it's not profitable for donkey me, so i leave.
| | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 21 no, i'm just waiting for the LV trip!
AC? until revel opens, and i want to take a look, otherwise no chance, hehe.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Were you at Borgata this weekend?
: I have no idea what he is mad about.. lol.. 真是人间百态..
:
: a
: him
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 22 guess i found the solution i was looking for, thanks guys!
river.
【在 g**s 的大作中提到】
: yeah, raise 50$ is good too. it's hard to resisant it. but this certainly
: triggers the alert and scare the LP away. possibe another 50 value on river.
: either way is better than raise.
:
: yourself
| l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 23 版主很喜欢调换角色。下次你的贴我干脆直接把你想成villain 好了。 | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 24 no, i only do this once in a while, lol, trying to get the most objective
answers.
and, on the other hand, i try to put myself in the other's shoes too.
【在 l*****g 的大作中提到】
: 版主很喜欢调换角色。下次你的贴我干脆直接把你想成villain 好了。
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